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10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 103 | 45.98% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 58 | 25.89% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 19 | 8.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 16 | 7.14% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 10 | 4.46% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.45% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 5 | 2.23% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 3 | 1.34% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.45% | |
1 out of 10 : Tortuous... | 8 | 3.57% | |
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2012-10-09, 20:44 | Link #442 |
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It's not the seeking out of things that could need some investigation, it's that you guys don't want to settle for any of the potential explanations unless it's explicitly made canon. Even as an anime-only watcher I can come up with several that are plausible, if not knowable. E.g. Kirito managing to move after death might very well have been Cardinal doing what it was supposed to do, balance the game, when such an unbalanced element as Heatcliff was involved. And we don't know what kind of therapy and drugs will be available for comatose people in 10 years (or 'can-microwave-vr-worlds-into-brains' years from now), so him standing up is plausible. I think the best example is the GM console, where people keep insisting he couldn't do that... Yet I, who work for a living actually creating the future in question, e.g. virtualisation in/of datacenters and such, have no problem with it. Imagining Kirito, a guy not only heavily into programming but also pretty obsessed with vr tech, copying the state files of an AI entity he knows the name of to his gear, which he also likely knows the id of, isn't some Neo type plothole shit. Only thing at issue was the matrix style copout by the animators. So yes, find my view of what you guys are doing offensive if you want, but at least I can settle on plausible guesses and suspend disbelief when knowing by canon is not possible.
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2012-10-09, 21:06 | Link #443 | |
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First of all I want to say:
1. ALL comparisons to other shows, including Accel World, must be behind properly marked spoiler tags. You all know this because the rules have not changed for months. Please follow the rules. 2. Do not attack other people for their points of view. If someone makes such a post, do not reply to it, and just report it. Regrettably, I can't be here 24/7. It looks like I should be... Now, on a totally unrelated note, my personal opinion (not mod-related at all): Quote:
I'm not saying that your disappointment is wrong. But your insinuations are way too provocative and dismissive. Constructive criticism is welcome, but you're just in rant mode.
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2012-10-09, 22:17 | Link #444 |
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As abrupt as it was, I can forgive the "DEM" of people being able to do things by sheer force of will alone.
Kirito's eyes changing color was enough to imply a certain underlying mechanism which allows that. It will still have to be explained later, but hey there's more than 10 episodes left right?
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2012-10-10, 00:52 | Link #445 | |
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What a heated debate.
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2012-10-10, 02:04 | Link #446 | |
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To me, personally, none of the stuff that happened lately, including Kirito walking, is impossible. Just rather unlikely. Plus he's not running any marathons. The stuff where Asuna overcomes her paralysis AND Kirito attacking despite having died, also not impossible. We know unexpected things happen from time to time, and we know that there is an unspecified delay between a character dying, and the killswitch activating. Besides, since when is anything impossible in a video game? |
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2012-10-10, 10:56 | Link #448 |
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I wonder why I feel things are going too fast in this episode to the state I don't feel the emotion, not the big revelation, not when the duel,or Asuna dying, or Kirito dying, or that long explanation under the sunset...
The only moments that touch my heart only when Kirito was crying and apologizing to Asuna and he wakes up in bed remembering her, then walking to search for her. And the anime isn't ending yet. 8/10
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2012-10-10, 11:22 | Link #449 | |
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Despite my expectations, and my general distaste of the genre, I really enjoyed SOA so far.
I actually found this last episode amazing, but when I saw it I took away something totally different than everybody else - Asuna died for realz! I mean, why is everybody so convinced that she's alive? They didn't say that anywhere in the episode at all. Instead, we see her die, and we're all like "Asuna, nooooooooo!" Then our hope are raised when we see her in heaven, but then Kirito ends up apologizing and they end up saying good bye. It was pretty clear to me that they expected her to die if not both of them to die when the game finally finished. Why else would all the *other* players get logged out? Why else would their farewell be so tearful? If they were escaping they should be celebrating and planning how to meet/communicate quickly in the real world. Also, in retrospect I think she *has* to die. The show began brilliantly by making us feel the impact of a virtual world with real death by the early killing of Kirito's guild and girl friend. Since then the possibility of real death has lingered over every character. That's what all the running away and honeymooning episodes were based on as well. Then before the last boss battle with all their discussions about how they'd deal with each other's deaths and why they have to risk death, dramatically is has to lead to one of their deaths. If it ended with this, it'd be a great tragic ambiguous conclusion. Since it's not the last episode it feels like a huge cliffhanger! Quote:
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2012-10-10, 17:31 | Link #450 | |
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I think the second reason is because there are 11 episodes left. It may make poetic sense to have a character die at the very end of a story, but it'd be pretty... morbid? to have 11 more episodes to immediately follow dealing with the character grieving the loss of his first love. But anyway, that was my logic. Your vision certainly makes a sort of narrative/poetic sense, but I'm afraid that I might find it a bit too heartbreaking to watch.
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2012-10-11, 00:23 | Link #451 |
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Well... yes. It would be heart breaking. But that's what I'm expecting. I mean I was heartbroken when Asuna first took the sword for Kirito.
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the 'return' was the first step in a grieving Kirito turning into the kind of obsessive psycho that set up this kind of game in the first place. Well actually now that I write that 'aloud' I guess that wouldn't be very satisfying third arc either, but... gah! I'm still on pins and needles until I see Asuna's smiling face again! Sadly a more reasonable third arc would be about the 'return' to the real world, burdened by the grief and tragedy of loss that no one could under stand because it was all virtual. Who of their band would lose it in real life? And how would Kirito find meaning and renewed purpose in a world without Asuna. Maybe Yui would play some role in that...
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2012-10-12, 20:51 | Link #455 | |
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(But the truth is probably more that they were trying to be sort of symbolic/metaphorical about Kirito's determination.)
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