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Old 2012-10-12, 00:04   Link #681
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wow, like the comments here.
IMO this feels like a world where "big brother" is watching them.
infact, i think its ok to say this is the kinda world we could live in, if the gov't keeps on trying to take over everything about our lives and such. their always trying to find a way to control anything and everything
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Old 2012-10-12, 00:06   Link #682
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I think this is the first time where an OP literally made me want to tear my ears off.
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Old 2012-10-12, 00:08   Link #683
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Perhaps this is an age where crimes have grown in considerable rate that Psycho Pass becomes the only solution to deal with it. Desperate world needs desperate solution.
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Old 2012-10-12, 00:11   Link #684
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I don't think trusting the system has anything to do with it. For example, let's say you're a normal salary man, and one day after long hours of work and quite a bit of built up stress, you get into heated discussion with your boss. Then you go back to your home to find the cops waiting there to put a paralyzing gun on your head and take you to the "rehabilitation" camp.... just because you got angry with your boss.
the question being, is that scenario you described enough to elevate your CC to 160+? Remember what the victim went through. She went through attempted rape and also having this intense fear of being taken by the enforcers (both due to the words from the kidnapper and seeing how he blew up in an instance right infront of her eyes). Both stimulated her survival instinct and makes her mentally extremely unstable to the point that she could lash out at the enforcers at any moment. Pointed by the gun certainly doesn't help the situation at all since she's already quite fearful of it. If she trusts the system and believe in her own innocence then her mental state won't be that chaotic to begin with. Again, this is all in theory, but I can see how this would work out.

Think about it, if you going through a heated discussion with your boss is enough to make you want to kill him, then something's already wrong with you, not the system itself.
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Old 2012-10-12, 00:34   Link #685
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I wonder if the system works on animals too xd
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Old 2012-10-12, 00:37   Link #686
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Damn, I forgot about this. Watching now wooot!
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Old 2012-10-12, 00:40   Link #687
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Think about it, if you going through a heated discussion with your boss is enough to make you want to kill him, then something's already wrong with you, not the system itself.
When you're angry, it's no rare to think about stuff you really don't mean. It's just a passing impulse. It doesn't make you a criminal, but under this system they might take you anyway.
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Old 2012-10-12, 00:53   Link #688
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there a difference between "you think you want to kill him" and "you will kill him". It's pretty easy to adjust the parameter
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Old 2012-10-12, 01:14   Link #689
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I would guess that the system does what it is supposed to do perfectly: it evaluates a person's state of mind at that instant of time, and determines 100% accurately whether said person will or will not commit a crime.

The flaw would be that it assumes no major third-party stimulus. It couldn't have predicted that Akane is capable of placating the woman right then and there. Its job is just to unlock the trigger; predicting future influences would be another technological leap all together. Rather, it's the enforcer's job to determine whether a person is beyond saving. Unfortunately, the enforcers in this era don't seem very nice.
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Old 2012-10-12, 01:29   Link #690
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What a weird interconnection for me today. I just rewatched Minority Report today. Strange, strange world.

This is a Urobuchi Gen writing, so I don't think we're going to get too much subtlety on certain points. (Though my experience with his writing is quite limited) Akane was sent out there to fail would be my guess. At least, I hope so because she's completely incapable of the job. She doesn't have the strength of personality to survive very long. This isn't a "rookie" problem. It's a personality not able to handle those types of strains and decisions. Frankly, it'd be little different than dropping a random 18 year old woman into a war zone. Which actually might have been partially the point of episode 1.

It's an interesting dystopian future. This seems like a darker version of Equilibrium at the moment, which actually wasn't a terrible film. I expect much despair in the future, which leads to a fun question. Which is the darker series: Psycho-Pass or Shin Sekai Yori.
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Old 2012-10-12, 01:40   Link #691
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Finished watching it and I must say it was very eventful for a first episode. The atmosphere was good and how the character's introduction went was perfectly fine. The suspense was there and I liked it alot. Brutality was delivered fine and I'm expecting more from it.

I am quite not okay with the usage of Denominator since to me, it only worsens or triggers the Criminal Potential of a person. It's taking control of what is supposed to be decided by the person handling the gun. I think it's very much up to the enforcer to judge if the target may go 90 0r 180. There's that scene of the hostage girl going non-lethal from lethal after Akane approached her and it bothered me. I felt like Akane during that moment. But maybe there's no choice for CID since its' posssible that the crime rate has been getting out of hand. But still...

Sibyl might be that white-haired dude though. LOL, the OP scenes might happen around episode 12 or 24.

I hope this would get its own thread.
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Old 2012-10-12, 01:59   Link #692
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Remember that even though the dominator determines the punishment, it's the people that pulls the trigger.
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Old 2012-10-12, 02:00   Link #693
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Ultra-Violence? In my anime?!? Have I stepped into the way back machine without noticing?!?

But yea seriously that was fairly impressive (Putting aside that god awful "music" used during the opening...). Good to see Gens particular brand of despair applied to a dystopian setting, which is always one of my favorites. Quite excited to see where this one goes from here.
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Old 2012-10-12, 02:16   Link #694
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Remember that even though the dominator determines the punishment, it's the people that pulls the trigger.
Maybe some Dominator could be alive and kill people by themselves like EVA 01 !
OMG XD
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Old 2012-10-12, 02:23   Link #695
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Speaking of which, that Dominator really makes a messy kill. Who wouldn't go psycho using that on a daily basis?
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Old 2012-10-12, 02:29   Link #696
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So, are we expecting someone to die in the third episode? lol Maybe, it's Masaoka
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Old 2012-10-12, 02:34   Link #697
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Its job is just to unlock the trigger; predicting future influences would be another technological leap all together. Rather, it's the enforcer's job to determine whether a person is beyond saving.Unfortunately, the enforcers in this era don't seem very nice.
Well I guess that's to be expected when the enforcers themselves are recruited because they have a high criminality potential.They get to legally shoot someone!

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She doesn't have the strength of personality to survive very long. This isn't a "rookie" problem. It's a personality not able to handle those types of strains and decisions. Frankly, it'd be little different than dropping a random 18 year old woman into a war zone. Which actually might have been partially the point of episode 1.
Well they mentioned they were short on staff so they might be reaching for recruits,though I think you're underestimating Akane a little,she was traumatized but still made a decision:she shot the enforcer,I'd say it takes some guts to do that on your first day of work. (btw what would her psychopass reading be at that instant?)
Ideally though she wouldn't have asked him not to shoot the victim but ordered him to since she is his superior.
But still,she used the enforcers to neutralize the rapist and when en enforcer was overdoing it she saved a victim,though obviously it seems her employers don't agree about that last part

What intrigues me more though is how Akane is clueless about the whole system,she acts surprised at a whole lot of info she's given,but I would think that the general population would know how the law enforcement system of the place they live in works,not all the details but at least the basics.

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t's an interesting dystopian future. This seems like a darker version of Equilibrium at the moment, which actually wasn't a terrible film.

Well since you mention it,one of Urobuchi's early work,Jouka no Monshou, is an equilibrium fanfic.
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Old 2012-10-12, 03:13   Link #698
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That's very interesting about Urobuchi writing an Equilibrium fanfic. Just need some GunKata and swords and we're good! (The movie was a bunch of really good ideas not terribly well put together, though it was entertaining.)

As for Akane, if she's the top recruit from the Academy, then either the Academy needs a new system or everyone there is less competent than Akane. That is a BAD sign. And I'm not trying to be too harsh to the character, at this point, but she wasn't shown as being able to handle even the basic stress at the beginning of the mission. Which is why she was reacting on emotion rather than instinct, logic or training at several points. She's very lucky that the situation resolved the way it did. Though I imagine her reactions were deliberate to the writing, given the rest of the episode. So I don't think my impression was unintended.
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Old 2012-10-12, 03:21   Link #699
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keep in mind that she's having no problem with pointing gun at the kidnapper, but the victim. not to mention her role there is not to actually be enforcing the law, but to make sure those hounds don't overstep their boundary.
Granted that she's probably too green to really know where to stop. Her idealism will be delicious
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Old 2012-10-12, 03:21   Link #700
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Haven't got around to watching this yet, but judging by the trailer, this sounds kind of like the movie Minority Report. Any truth to that? Or was it just the way the trailer was presented?
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