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Old 2012-10-11, 16:36   Link #10821
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You know, I really have to appreciate the speculation. It does make me a bit hopeful(having a conference between Zenkichi, Kumagawa, and Ajimu in the afterlife)
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Old 2012-10-11, 16:50   Link #10822
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This So called "Hero" Iihiko came 5000 years ago do they not always talk about Medaka being "hero" that appears every 5000 year so it is kind of Ironic that the Old "Hero" Ihiko will fight against New "Hero" Medaka .
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Old 2012-10-11, 17:03   Link #10823
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This So called "Hero" Iihiko came 5000 years ago do they not always talk about Medaka being "hero" that appears every 5000 year so it is kind of Ironic that the Old "Hero" Ihiko will fight against New "Hero" Medaka .
A 'hero' appears once every thousand years fyi.

Which means that for all we know Nisio may introduce 4 other 'hero' type characters in a later arc.
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Old 2012-10-11, 17:05   Link #10824
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Hero or otherwise, Medaka needs to find somehting that can defeat Iihiko especially since he can no sell Abnormals and Minuses. I guess there are things that Kumagawa's All Fiction and Medaka's The End cannot defeat all....
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Old 2012-10-11, 17:48   Link #10825
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I wouldn't necessarily expect other heroes to pop up or anything. The only reason we've been given for Iihiko still being alive after all is because of the Shiranui's quirk of "preserving rarities". If a similar effort hasn't been made to preserve any other heroes, they're unlikely to show up in the story.

More importantly, this chapter interestingly asserts Ajimu's initial impression of being the only "real"/"true" Not Equal. That kinda makes sense, as Hanten never did anything to really live up to that name. Given Ajimu being the only Not Equal, though, including all the accompanying fresh characterization and new perspective she brings to the series, that's all the more reason to expect that her death will not be permanent.

We also might need to revisit the Shiranui's true nature in light of the revelation that Hanten's "make any ability skill" comes just from a doubling of Ajimu. If "making skills" isn't the original nature of the Shiranui, then what exactly would be? Hansode's "Real Eater" is looking a bit more important/significant in light of this. (Or alternatively: was Real Eater just a doubling/reflection of Medaka's abilities?)

Anyway, now Nishio has drawn a clear distinction between Styles and Abnormalities/Minuses, I am pretty curious as to what a Style exactly is. Why exactly would it be exempt from Iihiko's destruction of Skills and Minuses? How exactly did the now "dead" Professor Tsurubami come up with them? It will feel kinda cheap if Styles are able to beat Iihiko despite all the Style users having been beaten already just "because", so I hope Nishio has a good explanation for this.
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Old 2012-10-11, 18:06   Link #10826
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Hero or otherwise, Medaka needs to find somehting that can defeat Iihiko especially since he can no sell Abnormals and Minuses. I guess there are things that Kumagawa's All Fiction and Medaka's The End cannot defeat all....
They just said they'll be teaching Medaka a style.

Never thought we'd actually see a training montage for Medaka, out of all people. But, like you said, her only flaw is that she's not strong enough.

Class 13's appereance really was just a pointless promotion - if they don't even show up anymore.

Removing Zenkichi from a Shiranui centric arc?

That's hilarious. Hilariously bad.

Removing Kumagawa?

:|

At least you gave us Nienami and Tsurubami - though. They'll be enough, along with Hanten, to offset Medaka's horribleness. One would find the manga is a careful balance of this, most of the time. Hanten even points it out in an obscure way.

Not bad, but not good, either. We must await further development.
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Old 2012-10-11, 18:37   Link #10827
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So Medaka is learning a Style.
Great....just what we need, Miss All Powerful getting a new power to make her stronger.

And seriously, an arc focused on Shiranui without Zenkichi. That's a letdown

Glad Namanie showed up again, if nothing else I hope that Kamome and Namanie's Style's will be revealed in this arc. That's really all I have to look forward to at the moment.
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Old 2012-10-11, 20:27   Link #10828
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@Sol I agree regarding styles. On one hand, continually creating new abilities will often leave readers pissed off as to any limits to the series. However, there should be convincing reasons as to why old abilities still have degrees of effectiveness.
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Old 2012-10-11, 21:36   Link #10829
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Jam packed chapter, good re-read value. Still dont get it, it seems to me this is all happaning because that village just wants to keep a legend alive, just cause.
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Old 2012-10-12, 00:11   Link #10830
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Iihiko's backstory reminds me a little of Akio Ohtori's. Hell, both are even Satanic figures...
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Never thought we'd actually see a training montage for Medaka, out of all people. But, like you said, her only flaw is that she's not strong enough.
One thing this manga has NEVER done is training montages. We always skip over them.
I wouldn't worry too much about that.
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Old 2012-10-12, 07:20   Link #10831
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Still hoping for Ajimu to return... hope they would pull whatever crap it can be for her to return... even after the current arc...
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Old 2012-10-12, 07:43   Link #10832
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Don't worry, she'll return, just most of her hair won't.... dat Nisio.
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Old 2012-10-12, 10:32   Link #10833
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I really suspect that Medaka isn't just an Abnormal, she's effectively a Not Equal in her infancy. In time, she may end up becoming a being increasingly nearer on par with Ajimu
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Old 2012-10-12, 10:35   Link #10834
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I really suspect that Medaka isn't just an Abnormal, she's effectively a Not Equal in her infancy. In time, she may end up becoming a being increasingly nearer on par with Ajimu
I had the same thought too, Medaka is well on her way to becoming Ajimu and it is only a matter of time before she surpasses her.
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Old 2012-10-12, 11:18   Link #10835
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This is WSJ
nobody ever dies.
ever.
Ajimu and Kumagawa will be back up in 3-5 chapters
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Old 2012-10-12, 11:19   Link #10836
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Kumagawa's going to reappear for the popularity poll anyway.
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Old 2012-10-12, 14:32   Link #10837
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Kumagawa's going to reappear for the popularity poll anyway.
pfft that's probably spot-on when he'll reappear
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Old 2012-10-12, 15:12   Link #10838
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This is WSJ
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Kumagawa's going to reappear for the popularity poll anyway.
Hence why there is no tension, nobody is ever actually in any sort of danger or nobody can die even when they are killed.
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Old 2012-10-12, 17:47   Link #10839
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^ Thus, supporting my recent theory that Tite Kubo and Nisio Isin are actually the same person. Yet even I think that's a lame theory.
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Old 2012-10-12, 18:01   Link #10840
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^ Thus, supporting my recent theory that Tite Kubo and Nisio Isin are actually the same person. Yet even I think that's a lame theory.
Nisio is much better troll then Kubo.
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