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Old 2012-10-14, 16:49   Link #41
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Even simpler, send anyone who whines that "its a girl's show" to me and I'll smack them around til they cry.

Because they're either young, insecure, stupid, clueless about masculinity, or all of those.
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Old 2012-10-14, 16:49   Link #42
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Some people just automatically assume that if the protagonist and all the main characters are girls, it's a show for girl.

For example, people often assume Angelic Layer is a girl's show even though it is one of the most badass shounen fighters ever.

Weirdly this same guy who refued my Madoka rec told me that Higurashi was one of his favorites. I wonder why he didn't conclude that was a girls show?



I'm not so much upset that he wasn't interested in watching the show as stunned and flabbergasted at his reasoning for why.
Because in higurashi , one the main character is a boy XD

In madoka there is no male acting or doing nice stuff , so yeah for the cluess random guy , it's a stupid girly show XD
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Old 2012-10-14, 17:02   Link #43
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I have to admit that I thought Madoka was a girly show and only checked it out when people started talking about episode three.....




Guess I was waaaaaaaaaay off base there...XD
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Old 2012-10-14, 17:24   Link #44
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What does he watch anyway, besides Gintama?
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Old 2012-10-14, 18:42   Link #45
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I've been told like this in Animax-Asia forums for many times especially in regarding of K-On. Yes, K-On is 'girly' but I'm doubt it was marketed towards teenage girls. Maybe it's popularity among Japanese teenage girls which make most of them confused on who's the actual target audiences.
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Old 2012-10-14, 18:49   Link #46
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Lucci: But it's a girls show

Me: I promise you, it's one of the best anime ever. It's free on crunchyroll.

Lucci: Thank for the rec, but I don't like girls shows.

At this point I was about to slit my wrists in frustration. What else can you say to someone like this?
I don't understand what the fuss is about. Madoka Magica is clearly a girly show, but I'm manly enough to stay in touch with my feminine side and not be ashamed about it.
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Old 2012-10-14, 18:51   Link #47
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I've been told like this in Animax-Asia forums for many times especially in regarding of K-On. Yes, K-On is 'girly' but I'm doubt it was marketed towards teenage girls. Maybe it's popularity among Japanese teenage girls which make most of them confused on who's the actual target audiences.
There's no doubt at all that it was pitched for young male teens/adults. Western anime fans are simply ... okay, I'll be nice ... uninformed. K-On! was designed for *males*. Luckily, the female director added touches that gave the series enough traction for cross-over appeal in Japan and overseas (e.g. dialed down the fanservice a bit and dialed up the relationships)

Ichigo Masimaro is another example -- it is a great show for women but the fact is, it was designed and sold to *males*.
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Old 2012-10-18, 09:07   Link #48
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K-ON ran in Comic Time Kirara, a moe-focused 4-koma minor magazine aimed at males, with readership of 80% male.

So there's no question anywhere about its intended demographics.
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Old 2012-10-18, 09:12   Link #49
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I rechecked the dialogues between NinjaRealist and the guy...

The guy probably meant he doesn't like "shows featuring mostly girls" or girl lead shows.
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Old 2012-10-18, 10:07   Link #50
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I haven't seen a single episode of Madoka, mostly due to lack of available time. I see you guys making Madoka references everywhere. I guess maybe it's high time I checked it out.

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Old 2012-10-18, 13:36   Link #51
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I rechecked the dialogues between NinjaRealist and the guy...

The guy probably meant he doesn't like "shows featuring mostly girls" or girl lead shows.
The solution for that is simple then. Start shoving yaoi down his throat.
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Old 2012-10-18, 16:24   Link #52
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The solution for that is simple then. Start shoving yaoi down his throat.
I like what you're thinking....
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Old 2012-10-18, 16:52   Link #53
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So if a show features an all female cast it has to be a girls show, so Queens Blade is a girls show?
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Old 2012-10-18, 16:55   Link #54
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So if a show features an all female cast it has to be a girls show, so Queens Blade is a girls show?
Apparently, that's the logic path being used by some people, yes.

You may laugh now
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Old 2012-10-20, 00:08   Link #55
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I like what you're thinking....

I second this.

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Apparently, that's the logic path being used by some people, yes.

You may laugh now
*knows what Queen's Blade is like and starts laughing nonstop*
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I might be interrupting but I think it as to do with all the shoujo tropes that might be in play. I notice that in 'girly' shows they place a lot of emphasis on relationships and conversations rather than emotionally driven action scenes. I often found that it usually involves romance or friendships and most of the mail demographic only want to see action (and boobs). With that said, I guess it has mostly to do with the tropes in play as well as the aesthestics.
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Old 2012-10-20, 04:58   Link #57
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I notice that in 'girly' shows they place a lot of emphasis on relationships and conversations rather than emotionally driven action scenes. I often found that it usually involves romance or friendships and most of the mail demographic only want to see action (and boobs).
Well, you may be onto something there. Some people might initially look a show like Madoka and think "They're going to talk about their feelings!!" and run away in terror.

I will say that one of the things that's interesting about anime (and the related industries), as opposed to a lot of Western entertainment, is that there are entire categories of shows that are "relationship-driven/feeling-centric content for guys". There's no doubt that this is weird for some people because it goes very much against the grain.
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Old 2012-10-20, 05:08   Link #58
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Well, you may be onto something there. Some people might initially look a show like Madoka and think "They're going to talk about their feelings!!" and run away in terror.

I will say that one of the things that's interesting about anime (and the related industries), as opposed to a lot of Western entertainment, is that there are entire categories of shows that are "relationship-driven/feeling-centric content for guys". There's no doubt that this is weird for some people because it goes very much against the grain.
That is one of the specific qualities that lured me into anime. Live-action western entertainment sometimes seems more cartoonish/shallow than animated anime.

Heh, it goes against the grain of what they've focused on and are familiar with ... but not really against the grain of the overall arena of literary material.

Its just ... what is being called "guy stuff" is really largely designed for YOUNG boys (boom, shouting, and maybe a boob). People would do well to realize its a small part of the spectrum out there and there's nothing wrong with liking more than one kind of story/music/etc.
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Old 2012-10-20, 12:14   Link #59
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Hey, you know. That reminds me.
This manga that was voted the most impactful new manga of the year by various editors in professional manga magazines......
kinda broke all boundaries of shoujo manga.

Ore Monogatari (Story of ME!), running in Bessatsu Margaret.
Yeah, THE Bessatsu Margaret, known for fluffy shoujo of shoujo mangas.
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And yes. That's the protagonist.
Manly, honest, good-hearted man... but looks like a typical un-pretty oyaji, not a hint of bishounen in him.
He's winning the hearts of girls and ladies all over the manga readership with his sheer human quality though.

Just kinda adds to the whole perception issue spoken above.
If this manga gets animated (and with the current popularity, it may be matter of time!) it will be technically considered a "girls' show".
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Is there any progress yet or did you give up on him?
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