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Old 2012-10-27, 05:40   Link #301
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It seems there's a pronounced mage vs muggle underlying plot going in right now, but I'm not sure if it's intended to be the main plot. We'll see.

I do, however, notice that this story is basically a weapons race to monopoly metal vessels, Djinns and magic tools.. which in turn, are tied to magoi/magic.

If they decide to abolish magic entirely to create peace, they'll be far from the first series to do it, though.

and I'm not sure if I like the story taking that tone.
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Old 2012-10-27, 07:46   Link #302
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I do, however, notice that this story is basically a weapons race to monopoly metal vessels, Djinns and magic tools.. which in turn, are tied to magoi/magic.
Yes and no.

Kou Empire and Sindoria's Seven Alliance are definitely in that arms race.
However, Magnostatt is developing its own methods of arming themselves (by R&D of magic, instead of relying on dungeon goods), and Laem Empire is training an army of Fanalis under the guidance of a magi.

Considering that Sheherazard has so far not raised any dungeons at all, she doesn't seem to be too interested in having Laem join that arms race. (with the army of Fanalis and her trusted commander Mu, completing a dungeon should be well within their ability)
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Old 2012-10-27, 09:27   Link #303
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It seems there's a pronounced mage vs muggle underlying plot going in right now, but I'm not sure if it's intended to be the main plot. We'll see.

I do, however, notice that this story is basically a weapons race to monopoly metal vessels, Djinns and magic tools.. which in turn, are tied to magoi/magic.

If they decide to abolish magic entirely to create peace, they'll be far from the first series to do it, though.

and I'm not sure if I like the story taking that tone.
You've just described 'Tales of Magi.'

I'd play the hell out of that game.
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Old 2012-10-27, 10:01   Link #304
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Considering that Sheherazard has so far not raised any dungeons at all, she doesn't seem to be too interested in having Laem join that arms race. (with the army of Fanalis and her trusted commander Mu, completing a dungeon should be well within their ability)
It would be a piece of cake for them to clear dungeons, but could they use a metal vessel? I'm not so sure about that. Neither Morgiana not Masrur have enough magoi for that; they barely have enough to use their household vessels.

That gives me the impression that Fanalist are naturally lacking on magoi.

It's just a theory of course. Hopefully we'll go back to Laem soon so we can learn more about Scheherazade and Mu.
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Old 2012-10-27, 10:21   Link #305
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It would be a piece of cake for them to clear dungeons, but could they use a metal vessel? I'm not so sure about that. Neither Morgiana not Masrur have enough magoi for that; they barely have enough to use their household vessels.

That gives me the impression that Fanalist are naturally lacking on magoi.

It's just a theory of course. Hopefully we'll go back to Laem soon so we can learn more about Scheherazade and Mu.
Fanalis doesn't have to use the vessel. They tag along as soldiers.
Laem is a huge empire, there are guys like Titus that can be the vessel users, and some of the Fanalis can be the households.

It suggests to me that perhaps Scheherazade simply isn't interested in dungeons, or have other means.
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Old 2012-10-27, 10:57   Link #306
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after reading ... you think ?
Best theory I've read so far. Props.
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Old 2012-10-27, 12:09   Link #307
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It suggests to me that perhaps Scheherazade simply isn't interested in dungeons, or have other means.
I don't disagree with this. I just wanted to post my theory. lol
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Old 2012-10-27, 12:50   Link #308
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Fanalis doesn't have to use the vessel. They tag along as soldiers.
Laem is a huge empire, there are guys like Titus that can be the vessel users, and some of the Fanalis can be the households.

It suggests to me that perhaps Scheherazade simply isn't interested in dungeons, or have other means.
Hell I get the feeling that Fanaris in squads can match a weaker djinn....
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Old 2012-10-27, 12:53   Link #309
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We don't know how big the Fanaris army in Laem is, but even in three digits, that's a terrifying force.

Right now all four major factions are fairly even in power, I say.
Despite the fact two of them don't seem eager to clear dungeons.
Kou may have a slight edge, but not by any means a landslide.
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Old 2012-10-27, 13:10   Link #310
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We don't know how big the Fanaris army in Laem is, but even in three digits, that's a terrifying force.

Right now all four major factions are fairly even in power, I say.
Despite the fact two of them don't seem eager to clear dungeons.
Kou may have a slight edge, but not by any means a landslide.

There was one more faction although I don't think it's been properly introduced yet in the story.

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Old 2012-10-27, 13:16   Link #311
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If you mean Paltebia, it's been mentioned in the series for a while now, and we already have three characters from there.

Dracone, Myers, and her brother.

It's already been mentioned that Paltebia has become weak and less prosperous in the recent years, and probably not a major force anymore.
(Its model seems to be Greece under Alexander era)

EDIT: correction, four characters. I forgot the dark vessel user.
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Old 2012-10-27, 13:22   Link #312
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is Hogwarts is part of larger empire/kingdom?
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Old 2012-10-27, 13:25   Link #313
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Ah ok thanks for clearing that up, guess I overlooked that detail while reading the story.
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Old 2012-10-27, 13:28   Link #314
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is Hogwarts is part of larger empire/kingdom?
It's the former Mustasim Kingdom. Dark-Hogwarts took it over in a uprising.
It's not part of any other kingdoms afaik.
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Old 2012-10-27, 13:28   Link #315
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Just read chapter 160
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Old 2012-10-27, 13:42   Link #316
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Apparently racial resentment and hatred doesn't turn your Rukh black.

Boy, and here I thought "hate" would be considered negative by Rukh.
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Old 2012-10-27, 13:54   Link #317
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Boy, and here I thought "hate" would be considered negative by Rukh.
Spoiler for spoilers 160:
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Old 2012-10-27, 14:30   Link #318
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I don't think he's acting on hate. He doesn't seem to care about power either, or changing his fate. Rather, I think he truly thinks this is the only way to save the world. No, not the only way, but the right way.

Basically he believes he's enacting fate, and that's way his Rukh doesn't turn black. The Rukh turns black when you curse your fate.
Though wouldn't rebelling against the monarchy be changing his fate from being used for others benefit?
It is kind of borderline, maybe he's like Sindbad, having two kinds of rukh in his body?
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Old 2012-10-27, 15:28   Link #319
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Spoiler for spoilers 160:



Let's use spoiler tags guys.
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Old 2012-10-27, 18:24   Link #320
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