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Old 2012-10-30, 07:00   Link #1
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One Piece - Chapter 687 [manga]

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Old 2012-10-30, 07:14   Link #2
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So now we can definitely say that Zoro>Sanji.
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Old 2012-10-30, 07:18   Link #3
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We haven't seen Sanji fight yet, only in the shadow, so lets wait and see. Supposedly they are near each other strengths.
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Old 2012-10-30, 07:19   Link #4
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So now we can definitely say that Zoro>Sanji.
Why?

O man, another fanboy..
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Old 2012-10-30, 07:29   Link #5
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Why?

O man, another fanboy..
Zorro would have beaten Vergo pretty quickly if it wasn't Sanji fighting him.
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Old 2012-10-30, 07:37   Link #6
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Short but nice fight! Letting Tashigi have a go first, then haki cutting Monet to show that he can cut a logia, and finally cutting her in half without haki to terrify her. Awesome display by Zoro.

Oh and shame on Caribou for abandoning Coribou and crew, after they came to save him.
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Old 2012-10-30, 07:55   Link #7
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Why?

O man, another fanboy..
I expect Poetic Justice is commenting on the simple fact that half the population of the planet could defeat Sanji simply due to their gender. That is a massive weakness that Zoro does not seem to fully posses.

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That being said, good chapter. Fight was brief, maybe too brief (I would have liked to see more from Tashigi), but the way Monet was defeated was still fun. Truthfully, Monet was getting a little annoying, so I'm glad she was taken down and now the story can move along.

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Zorro would have beaten Vergo pretty quickly if it wasn't Sanji fighting him.
I stand corrected.

Nothing Zoro did in this chapter indicated any level of strength superior to Sanji beyond Zoro's ability to strike a female opponent.
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Old 2012-10-30, 08:11   Link #8
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I'm glad it was confirmed Zoro can use haki because I'm sure there would have been some people to argue it wasn't the case otherwise. So he has a weakness to women too, though it's not as pronounced as Sanji's. He can still cut them down if he absolutely have to. And he certainly wouldn't let himself get beaten up.

Kinda sad that Monet is out of the picture already. I really liked her.
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Old 2012-10-30, 08:43   Link #9
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If Zoro had used Haki, this would have been one of the most impressive deaths in OP.
But at least we can count one of the enemies as defeated.
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Old 2012-10-30, 08:49   Link #10
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Good riddance. Oda was pretending to have Monet be more threatening than she really was and he finally wrapped this up to move the story along. We finally got confirmation Zoro could use CoA (despite how obvious it was without actual proof), so that's nice. And now to move on to the real threats: CC, Vergo, and Shinokuni.
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Old 2012-10-30, 08:51   Link #11
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I'm still very curious about who threw that piece of paper to Chopper in 676 if it wasn't Monet.
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Old 2012-10-30, 08:57   Link #12
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Good riddance. Oda was pretending to have Monet be more threatening than she really was and he finally wrapped this up to move the story along. We finally got confirmation Zoro could use CoA (despite how obvious it was without actual proof), so that's nice. And now to move on to the real threats: CC, Vergo, and Shinokuni.
i think that was already confirmed several chapters ago when law asked luffy who else can use haki among the straw hats and luffy named zoro and sanji. since then, i never doubted that the monster trio could use haki. the real question really is what types of haki can zoro and sanji use? they obviously can use armaments haki, but can they also use observation haki? sanji has shown some signs of using observation haki but we haven't gotten an official confirmation from oda yet.

this was a great chapter! i totally enjoyed the tashigi and zoro banter. and sanji saying that zoro has a soft side too is quite funny. that is something coming from sanji who thinks of zoro as a brainless berserker. lol
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Old 2012-10-30, 09:16   Link #13
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Wow! Very happy with the result and that my previous thought was a complete over reaction. Zoro was in complete control of the situation.

Zoro demonstrated CoA and maybe a little bit of CoC? Paralyzing his enemy in fear? Heh maybe thats going to far

Can't believe that Caribou left his brother with the G5 marines hahaha.
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I'm still very curious about who threw that piece of paper to Chopper in 676 if it wasn't Monet.
of course it s Monet

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I'm still very curious about who threw that piece of paper to Chopper in 676 if it wasn't Monet.
It was already explained that it was one of the little girls helping the Strawhats with the rest of the giant kids...the one friends with the dragon boy.
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Old 2012-10-30, 10:21   Link #16
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I guess Zoro did borrow something from Mihawk(aside from skill). How should I call it? A more level-headed style of fighting? Maybe. And yeah, cool chapter. It took me by surprise, I was expecting to see someone else this chapter and only later the conclusion to zoro vs monet. Something else that got me thinking is Tashigi's comment at the end? Just how strong did the straw-hats become? Zoro could always strike fear in the hearts of his opponents (I remember that CP9 giraffe) but this level of terror...We have yet to see someone matching up to them (except Vergo) so I really hope they are not top tier already. That would be really broken....
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I'm still very curious about who threw that piece of paper to Chopper in 676 if it wasn't Monet.
I assumed it was Law using his Devil Fruit
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Old 2012-10-30, 10:52   Link #18
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I guess Zoro did borrow something from Mihawk(aside from skill). How should I call it? A more level-headed style of fighting? Maybe. And yeah, cool chapter. It took me by surprise, I was expecting to see someone else this chapter and only later the conclusion to zoro vs monet. Something else that got me thinking is Tashigi's comment at the end? Just how strong did the straw-hats become? Zoro could always strike fear in the hearts of his opponents (I remember that CP9 giraffe) but this level of terror...We have yet to see someone matching up to them (except Vergo) so I really hope they are not top tier already. That would be really broken....
I was half thinking that the inability to move her body was due to CoC, but I guess plan old Saki explains it too.
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I was half thinking that the inability to move her body was due to CoC, but I guess plan old Saki explains it too.
Well, CoC could have a role too. I'm thinking about CoC+attitude. Like Zoro's badassness being enhanced by his haki and making him that much more scary.
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Didn't expect the chapter to focus on the fight at all. Was expecting Luffy+Momo and Smoker. Can't believe Zoro didn't use Haki on that Dragon attack and let Tashigi finish her off. What got me is that Tashigi didn't say anything about Zoro having Shusui (Ryuma's sword), guess that's reserved for Wano when Zoro runs into somebody who will comment on it. Most likely a flashback will occur since he was considered the WSS.
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