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Old 2012-11-01, 04:12   Link #401
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Hi there, Wild Goose. How are you today? I just wanted to drop in to let you know I've started reading the actually Muv-Luv trilogy recently and


BUH-BOOM.

That's me nuking your argument.
Volunteered for IJA, gets assigned to U.N. forces instead because of politics, starts training in the U.N. under Marimo.

Your conceit never fails to amuse.
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Old 2012-11-01, 04:20   Link #402
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BUH-BOOM.

That's me nuking your argument.
You know there's a real difference between a brand new fresh recruit signing up for the Imperial Army and instead of being allowed to go train for the Imperials being redirected to the UN 207B training squad along with all the other political hostages, and a commissioned Imperial Royal Guard officer for some reason transferring into the same?

I don't mind you ignoring canon for the sake of fanfics (because really, the point of fanfics is to reject canon and replace it with one's own story), but you really must not be so desperate to vindicate yourself that you have to grasp at thin ice such.

If you're going to suddenly leap on every single little thing you find that you think you might be able to drag out of context and twist into insulting someone who offended you without fully understanding what the argument or your attempted refutal is based on, you're not really going anywhere fast.
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Old 2012-11-01, 04:23   Link #403
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You know there's a real difference between a brand new fresh recruit signing up for the Imperial Army and instead of being allowed to go train for the Imperials being redirected to the UN 207B training squad along with all the other political hostages, and a commissioned Imperial Royal Guard officer for some reason transferring into the same?
Small correction,
Spoiler for 207 Cohort:
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Old 2012-11-01, 05:56   Link #404
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isn't the scene hagoshod show a scene from unlimited though I'm not sure and I think its only in alternative where Yuuko reveal the situation of the girls to Takeru. The girls being political hostages of UN army. Though I'm not really sure.
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Old 2012-11-01, 07:19   Link #405
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Now I'm going to have a lot of problem in even thinking about my fanfic idea

Mostly because of how it stretched from year 1999 to 2001 and possibly beyond

Is there any information about when the cast was recruited in the UN army?

And even before that,when did Marimo became a instructor and when did the other Valkyries besides the main cast became Valkyries

Considering a lot of Valkries died off-screen,I guess I will have to create some throw-away characters in year 1999.
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Old 2012-11-01, 08:02   Link #406
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Now I'm going to have a lot of problem in even thinking about my fanfic idea

Mostly because of how it stretched from year 1999 to 2001 and possibly beyond

Is there any information about when the cast was recruited in the UN army?

And even before that,when did Marimo became a instructor and when did the other Valkyries besides the main cast became Valkyries

Considering a lot of Valkries died off-screen,I guess I will have to create some throw-away characters in year 1999.
Timeline here. Spoilers galore. Suggest you complete Alternative first if you haven't
http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_Timeline
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Old 2012-11-01, 08:27   Link #407
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Timeline here. Spoilers galore. Suggest you complete Alternative first if you haven't
http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_Timeline
I have already decided to finish Alternative before begin writing the crossover fanfic.

Doesn't help that the VN only have stuff and information beyond October 2001

I guess I have to make up a lot of stuff myself...

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Old 2012-11-01, 10:24   Link #408
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I actually wanted to reply a lot earlier, since 3pm, but my iPad was being derp. Anyhow, my thanks and compliments, grevierr and DoomRavager, for your able replies to Hagoshod.

That said, given that I actually typed out this reply, I do feel like I want to post it anyway. Waste not, want not.

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Hi there, Wild Goose. How are you today? I just wanted to drop in to let you know I've started reading the actually Muv-Luv trilogy recently and



BUH-BOOM.

That's me nuking your argument.
Why, hello, Hagoshod. I've had a really good day. You really have nothing better to do, do you?

A-01 is supplied its personnel from local Japanese forces, as part of UN doctrine (UN forces in a nation will be part foreign troops and part local troops given to the UN). Yes, Chizuru volunteered for the IJA, but before she got there she was shunted to Training Squadron 207B (under Special Task Force A-01, which is part of the UN Army) for training, before she eventually went to Isumi's Valkyries.

Whereas Izumi is already commissioned into the Imperial Royal Guard by the time of the Fall of Kyoto. Notice how she and the rest of Yui's crew were wearing active duty reinforced suits and are flying Type-82 Zuikakus in IRG deployment colors. They aren't wearing their translucent training suits, nor are they flying the training colors Type-77 Gekishins.

Contrast this to Chizuru and the rest, who are wearing UN training reinforced suits, and are flying Type-97 Fubuki trainers, particularly when they deployed for 12/5.

Besides, one more thing. Has Chizuru had prior training? Nope. Where is she getting her training done? With 207B squadron, along with the rest of Takeru's harem. Whereas Izumi already had the better part of a year's worth of training as a prospective IRG officer/pilot. (Yes, the training is obviously truncated and they haven't completed the full training syllabus, but they've got the basics down and have been instilled with IRG doctrine. As a matter of perspective, OCS takes 90 days, while Sandhurst and Dartmouth last a year.) Also, as I mentioned with AOCS, and with practically all forms of military flight training, you can be a commissioned officer without completing flight training.

Again, I will further reiterate that Yuuko wants fresh trainees with zero preconceptions. Izumi has already spent a significant amount of time undergoing IRG training, and has had significant exposure to IRG doctrine. This is the final mark against her being a member of the Valkyries.

Sorry, looks like you dropped a dud bomb. Device failed to initiate. Negative effect on target. Try again, Hagoshod.

Also, thank you for providing this amusement to cap off my day. In future, I'd suggest that you do try to lessen your preemptive smugness - it only makes you look more foolish and conceited. Contrast the tone of your post with my response above.
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Old 2012-11-01, 12:28   Link #409
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Hi there, Wild Goose. How are you today? I just wanted to drop in to let you know I've started reading the actually Muv-Luv trilogy recently and



BUH-BOOM.

That's me nuking your argument.
Now you are just trying too hard in digging your own grave. Chizuru never got in to the imperial army, but was assigned to the 207B instead and that's where she was nurtured to become a member of A01. Keep us updated for whatever argument you may have. Your fine blend of arrogance and ignorance amuses me to no end.
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Old 2012-11-01, 12:46   Link #410
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tsunade666, You don't need to utterly destroy my dreams... You know...
I agree, but i didn't want to.

After Alternative, i just want to believe (even if its less than 1%) on a reazonably happy ending. He suffered enough.
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IDTI IDTI IDTI

but truly indeed. He suffered enough. So its time to take a rest
Hmm... Sorry, new face popping in here. I've actually had a theory for a little bit that might actually be used for PaulXion's fic. Might just be pointless wishful thinking on my part, but here goes. Um, spoilers for Alternative?
Spoiler for MLA Spoilers:


Also, I'm of the mind that Quantum Takeru (aka the Takeru from every universe combined) might just be a completely different existence when compared to any of the original Takeru's.
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Old 2012-11-01, 13:12   Link #411
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Inspired by this, I bring you this bit:
*snip*
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?
And now you've inspired me to do a bit of my own writing:

Spoiler for Mars Drop:


Eh, wouldn't quite say it's the best I've ever written, and I usually find that the stuff I speed write tends to be crap, but meh, needed to get this outta my head.
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Old 2012-11-01, 22:16   Link #412
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Just a thought, the XG-70s were experimental thus the X in the designation aka X-32 becomes the F-32 in test production or the YF-22 becomes the F-22. The mass production models would be like G-XX or something. Just give it a Fortress like designation.

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Old 2012-11-01, 23:01   Link #413
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Just a thought, the XG-70s were experimental thus the X in the designation aka X-32 becomes the F-32 in test production or the YF-22 becomes the F-22. The mass production models would be like G-XX or something. Just give it a Fortress like designation.

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That the Fabled fan made TSF T-50 Pak Fa = F**k the shit out of you BETA I just wish the TSF has Variable modes like a certain anime were even Super dimensional fortress transforms and does a Drill Milky Magnum on the enemy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slqa30DSSKE
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Old 2012-11-02, 00:05   Link #414
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Just a thought, the XG-70s were experimental thus the X in the designation aka X-32 becomes the F-32 in test production or the YF-22 becomes the F-22. The mass production models would be like G-XX or something. Just give it a Fortress like designation.

And related pics again.
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I WAS writing this at 2 in the morning, y'know.

Also ZOMG Mave Yukikaze TSF! Is it carrying the laser cannon, because that would be really, really win.
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Old 2012-11-02, 06:48   Link #415
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I'm not sure whether this has been suggested before, but I've been playing around with the thought of a Muv Luv - Code Geass Crossover, where the BETAs invade the Code Geass World at the same time as in Muv Luv Canon.
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I'm not sure whether this has been suggested before, but I've been playing around with the thought of a Muv Luv - Code Geass Crossover, where the BETAs invade the Code Geass World at the same time as in Muv Luv Canon.
Already got one,please read page 19
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Old 2012-11-02, 07:20   Link #417
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Nah, I think he meant that the BETA invade the code geass world. The crossover of code geass and muv luv that has already been done was a story where Lulu was reincarnated into the BETA world.

This crossover where BETA was going to invade the holy britannian empire or area 11..... might sound good but the knightmare frame or the more customized knightmare frame from 7 gen and above are far stronger and will lay waste on the BETA. They also had that shields to protect them and hadron cannon that is mass produced. They will lay waste on the BETA and they had good leaders like some of the royal family of Britain.
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Old 2012-11-02, 07:37   Link #418
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Remember the political shitstorm,remember the political shitstorm....
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Old 2012-11-02, 08:25   Link #419
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the political shit storm in code geass world isn't that bad compare to BETA world where every country has their own agenda to fulfill.

The shit storm in Code Geass world can be easily stop by the emperor of Britannia if he had time to play with BETA or Shiniezel (or whatever spelling his name is) will put a stop on them and the empire will attack. Remember in Code Geass world there are only few power players and they aren't in war with each other. The only one who are invading are Britannia and if the royal decide to concentrate their attack on BETA. BETA will be turn into a pile of meat and also remember that Schiezel and Cornelia are good leaders that aren't all power hunger which the BETA world lacks.

BETA world leaders are bunch of power hunger being that tried to devour each other and that's why they don't prosper and haven't beaten the BETA yet. They try to do it their way.

Code Geass world is much more united. Specially if Shiniezel and Zero takes charge. Those two will probably use each other in the battle but they are smart enough to not take easy against alien race. Also the code geass world has lots of talented pilot which aren't dead. Comparing it to BETA world that the veteran are few and newbie are being sent to beat the crap of BETA or just to get eaten by them.... well Code Geass world has better chances.
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Only question is whether those shields can protect them from lasers.
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