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Old 2012-11-06, 22:35   Link #2361
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Arizona has been called for Romney. And damn Boehner gets to keep the Speakership. u_u
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:35   Link #2362
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I'm okay with a split Congress/WH but they have to stop being jackasses about ideology over compromise.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:36   Link #2363
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:37   Link #2364
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I do think the popular vote will be relatively close though, which-to me-speaks volumes. Romney is a horrible candidate, and the only reason the popular vote will be close is because there's a lot of anger towards Obama and the direction this country is going.
Can't be helped. With things a bad as they have been in last couples years and any President would get the heat, regardless of how much he had to do with it.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:38   Link #2365
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I'm okay with a split Congress/WH but they have to stop being jackasses about ideology over compromise.
Compromise kind of defeats the entire point behind a split Congress/WH. The two party system tied to our "balance" between the WH, Senate, and House, is a zero-sum game. If anything, we should be glad for gridlock. Government would be far scarier if it was an actual effective machine at legislating. It'd be all roses if it happened to be legislating things you love, but a complete nightmare if you happen to be on the other side of that divide.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:38   Link #2366
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I'm okay with a split Congress/WH but they have to stop being jackasses about ideology over compromise.
From what I can see in the last 2 years, I've seen more congressmen on the red side being jackasses holding on their ideology. We can look at their comments about abortion to see how ideology is rotting them to the core.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:38   Link #2367
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I'm okay with a split Congress/WH but they have to stop being jackasses about ideology over compromise.
You really think than there's even a small chance of happening ?
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:39   Link #2368
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cnn has Tim Kaine up by 18k votes over george Allen in Virginia.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:39   Link #2369
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Arizona has been called for Romney. And damn Boehner gets to keep the Speakership. u_u
Trust me, a split congress is a good thing.
It's what kept Reagan in line for most of the 80s, and Clinton in line for the last half of the 1990s.

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I'm okay with a split Congress/WH but they have to stop being jackasses about ideology over compromise.
Yep, anything to keep both sides bickering with each other instead of screwing us over is a good thing.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:40   Link #2370
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While a recount in Florida still remains a possibility, the chance of it happening has become meaningless considering Obama seems to be well on his way to win Ohio. With PA in the bag, Obama should reach 270 even without Florida.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:41   Link #2371
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Damn, Romney is leading? FFS! Is he really going to win?
btw, which news organization is the most reliable one? (I'm following CNN)
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:43   Link #2372
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Compromise kind of defeats the entire point behind a split Congress/WH. The two party system tied to our "balance" between the WH, Senate, and House, is a zero-sum game. If anything, we should be glad for gridlock. Government would be far scarier if it was an actual effective machine at legislating. It'd be all roses if it happened to be legislating things you love, but a complete nightmare if you happen to be on the other side of that divide.
You seem to confuse collusion with compromise. They are not the same.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:44   Link #2373
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You really think than there's even a small chance of happening ?
Yes. I may be overly optimistic here, but I don't think the growing public dissatisfaction is eluding either parties. I think something will give this time around. One of Romney's mantra for his campaign was how he worked with both GOP and DEM in Massachusetts. A lot of GOP representative and senator preached the same mantra in their own campaign trail, so yes I do think there is a good chance of that happening.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:44   Link #2374
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btw, which news organization is the most reliable one? (I'm following CNN)
Al Jazeera and BBC.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:44   Link #2375
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As long as the Tea Party is so influential, there won't be any compromise on even the most trivial things.

You guys need to bring decent people back in charge in the GOP
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:45   Link #2376
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Joseph Kennedy the 3rd wins a house seat in mass
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:45   Link #2377
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Just woke! (it's 4:30AM in Holland)
Damn, Romney is leading? FFS! Is he really going to win?
btw, which news organization is the most reliable one? (I'm following CNN)
Romney is "winning" right now because the West Coast polls haven't closed which are lock for something like 80 electoral votes to Obama. Nothing really surprising has happened so far other than the chance Obama might win Florida.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:46   Link #2378
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Trust me, a split congress is a good thing.
It's what kept Reagan in line for most of the 80s, and Clinton in line for the last half of the 1990s.
Umm no, when Obama and the Democrats had the House and Senate, stuff that was near and dear to me got done.

When the House Split to the Republicans, you know what happened? Hyper-partisan bs and using the debt ceiling hostage which would have crashed the global economy yet again.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:46   Link #2379
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Just woke! (it's 4:30AM in Holland)
Damn, Romney is leading? FFS! Is he really going to win?
btw, which news organization is the most reliable one? (I'm following CNN)
They are not calling for Ohio, Virginia and Florida yet. Also, nothing is officially given on the West Coast yet. However, things still look good for Obama because the entire West Coast (esp. California with 55 electoral votes) will be a given for the Dems (uneless there's a disaster), Ohio is leaning towards the Dems and Florida is all about counting in Miami now (strong Dem position).

Perhaps the BBC can give you some input. I'd rather not watch any US news channel for now.
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Old 2012-11-06, 22:47   Link #2380
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