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Old 2012-11-08, 00:51   Link #2861
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Old 2012-11-08, 00:54   Link #2862
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Ah.....um.......

*cringes*

Landmines. Landmines I see are everywhere......this is not going to go well....

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28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"
He is right about this one. I was utterly shocked and appalled to learn children do not recite the Pledge of Allegiance in schools anymore!?

Seriously what!?
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:00   Link #2863
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25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.
Hey!

That's going too far.

Even capitalists need to get off, you know.
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:01   Link #2864
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this is not going to go well....
Indeed, because once it's all said and done in 2016 (with a new 4th world state about to be added to the Union) USA will be a basket case.

How so?

Once the economy dips below a certain point, there is no returning. Just study what happened to Argentina, which was once called the Jewel of the Americas... and the 4th most prosperous country in the world (A democratic country I might add).
They adopted socialist policies sponsored by Juan and Eva Peron almost identical to those already implemented by the Obama administration. Now Argentina is an economic basket case.... a socialistic nightmare. There's no way for it to go back!

We're headed down that same path.





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He is right about this one. I was utterly shocked and appalled to learn children do not recite the Pledge of Allegiance in schools anymore!?

Seriously what!?
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28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

See, it's not that far out!

The Communists and their enablers were way ahead of the curve!

Los Angeles Unified School District..... one of the largest public cesspools schools (with a high dropout rate to boot!) in the USA is the WORST offender.


PS: I'm from Los Angeles.
I'm making real good $ here and something's really have to hit the fan to make me move out, but I just can't give up the fine weather here.
I have really high tolerance IRL but one day it might just *snap*

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Old 2012-11-08, 01:14   Link #2865
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America has ONCE again severely disappointed me.

(╯□)╯︵ ┻━┻)

Hah, I should be numb to it by now. That will teach me to be optimistic.....and I COMPLETELY agree with Victoria Jackson and you guys making fun of disappointed Christians is NOT cool.

That was not sarcasm. Just because our beliefs differ from yours doesn't mean we don't deserve respect.
"So Chiibi, what are you doing for 4th of Jul-"

*SLAP* "AMERICA IS DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!"
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:17   Link #2866
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You have a concerted, well-organized effort to destroy this country (as founded) by the communist corporatist controllers of the dem. party, the entertainment industry and the print/tv news media. Fundamental Transformation. I would be ashamed to say I was for the casual murder of babies.



In support of the above statement they have had great success... Just posting their successes that have changed many opinions.



15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US

17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".

27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
I fixed that for you so it is accurate.
This article ought to interest you flying.
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/communists.asp

Also, if you have not done so already, you need to read Quigley's book on this subject.



http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-H.../dp/094500110X

He lays out the "who, why, how, and when" of the controllers of this country.
This country's history has been anything but organic and it has been that way since the 1800s.
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:19   Link #2867
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Ha...ha.....=_=

I will still celebrate 4th of July even if I don't agree with the majority of America at the moment.
Calling America "dead" is certainly an exaggeration though. To call it 'dead' is like giving up all hope.
But I will still cling to hope. I'm just stupidly optimistic.
Staying depressed will not help anything.
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:24   Link #2868
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He is right about this one. I was utterly shocked and appalled to learn children do not recite the Pledge of Allegiance in schools anymore!?

Seriously what!?
False.

As a matter of fact the pledge is still required by law in most states, it's just that students also have the option to not recite it if they choose in most states as well.

The religious types wanted to add religious bits to the pledge, and this is the result. Freedom to practice religion does not mean you get to shove it down everyone's throat.

Seriously, you're obviously not a troll like flying, this would've took you all of 2 seconds to find out on google, don't sink to his level.
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:36   Link #2869
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Ha...ha.....=_=

I will still celebrate 4th of July even if I don't agree with the majority of America at the moment.
Calling America "dead" is certainly an exaggeration though. To call it 'dead' is like giving up all hope.
But I will still cling to hope. I'm just stupidly optimistic.
Staying depressed will not help anything.
Welp, you said you COMPLETELY AGREED with her. I'm not even addressing the complete fallacy where Jackson assumes Christians just HAVE to vote for Romney!
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:37   Link #2870
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He always posts these absurd extreme right-wing posts. Has been for years.
Why take them seriously now?
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:38   Link #2871
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Freedom to practice religion does not mean you get to shove it down everyone's throat.
Situation/zeitgeist is inverse!

Look at this... a fine organization like this shouldn't have this much case workload to defend such basic right(s)!

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Old 2012-11-08, 01:41   Link #2872
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:41   Link #2873
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False.

As a matter of fact the pledge is still required by law in most states, it's just that students also have the option to not recite it if they choose in most states as well.
Oh.


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Seriously, you're obviously not a troll like flying, this would've took you all of 2 seconds to find out on google, don't sink to his level.
You'll probably understand when I say "I'm becoming more skeptical of what I read on the internet, especially if it involves politics....">_>

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Welp, you said you COMPLETELY AGREED with her.
Several hours ago yeah. I've calmed down somewhat now.
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:47   Link #2874
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Situation is inverse!

Look at this... a fine organization like this shouldn't that shouldn't have this much case workload to defend such basic right(s)!
red herring/non-sequitur


requiring children to recite a pledge that includes the christian god IS forcing it down everyone's throat. What about children with different faith? or those that don't have them?


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You'll probably understand when I say "I'm becoming more skeptical of what I read on the internet, especially if it involves politics.
Of course. It's good to be skeptical, but it's also important not to succumb to paranoia. If you put in the time, you can generally get a good idea what's true and what's bull.
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:50   Link #2875
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red herring/non-sequitur


requiring children to recite a pledge that includes the christian god IS forcing it down everyone's throat. What about children with different faith? or those that don't have them?
Well, what I don't really get is, we all know different faiths other than Christianity have been in America for a LONG time.

.......so how come nobody took action until now?
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:53   Link #2876
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What about children with different faith? or those that don't have them?
Ever observed 'moment of silence'?

Even something as basic as this is getting gutted!
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:55   Link #2877
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Well, what I don't really get is, we all know different faiths other than Christianity have been in America for a LONG time.

.......so how come nobody took action until now?
For one thing, the religious phrasing wasn't added 'til the 50s, and frankly, the culture/climate then is very different from today. Remember, back in those days "people of color" still have to ride at the back of the bus.

It's ironic really, one of the reasons that people came to the colonies was to escape religious persecution, yet look at us now. Secular is painted as synonymous with the devil, politicians have to parade out their christian pedigrees if they want to have a chance to be elected, atheists are immoral godless heathens, and muslims are all instant-microwavable terrorists, and if there were more buddhists or hindus etc. for people to care, they'd probably be labeled as cultists.
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Old 2012-11-08, 02:02   Link #2878
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Indeed the term "God" was added to the pledge of the allegiance in the 50's by our government in an attempt to make us seem more righteous in the cold war against those dastardly soviets who in ours eyes were Godless communists.

It was not part of the foundation of this country, and it certainly has no place being forced down the throats of our children. The US was founded on the principle of a secular government, separation of church and state, and this is in fundamental contradiction with how we constructed our government.
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Old 2012-11-08, 02:05   Link #2879
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At the core of this, the Republicans have to learn in order to win. We sure as hell haven't been seeing that since and we won't expect it in 2016.

Lesse we got: Newt Gingrich (heh), Rick Santorum, (heheh) Herman Cain(Hah!), Bachmann (Hahah!), Rick Perry(HAHAHAHAHA!), RON PAUL (HUEHUEHUEUHHUEHUEEHUEUHUE)

I suppose Bobby Jindal or Christie or someone else could give it a shot.
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Old 2012-11-08, 02:07   Link #2880
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You'll probably understand when I say "I'm becoming more skeptical of what I read on the internet, especially if it involves politics....">_>
Not fact checking and going on as if your assumptions are gospel isn't being skeptical. It's the opposite of being skeptical.
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