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Old 2012-11-07, 19:14   Link #41
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Well if you need reasoning as to why kakashi has extra chakra reserves, then chalk it up to food pills...

Kakashi already stated they were used during wars so ppl could fight for days on end, it seems unlikely the world would break from this tradition.

If you don't like that reasoning, then well idk what to tell you.

Kishi writes the story and can effectively do what he wants, it's like saying god made a plot hole in making the world, if he makes it how can u question its logic?
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Old 2012-11-07, 19:41   Link #42
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If Tenten can use that chakra-eating-magic-fan then Kakashi can have monser-levels of chakra
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Old 2012-11-07, 21:20   Link #43
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But wasn't it just 2 chapters ago that Kakashi was on the floor with blood gushing out of his MS eye? How is it that he pops back up like he went on a 3 week vacation and returned fully renewed? Didn't other MS users start losing the MS pattern in their eyes after 3~ or so uses and then gone blinder than a bat?
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Old 2012-11-07, 21:34   Link #44
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And i had a thought about sasuke's future actions , i wonder if he is going to attack obito, he did tell itachi that after he kills him he is going after the guy who helped him that night
Imo Sasuke is the hardest to predict. But personally i think he will end up helping Naruto defeating Madara ( directly or indirectly) at the very least. I don't see Naruto defeating him alone.

And yes, there is a good chance there might be a confrontation between Obito and Sasuke imo. But it's probably a lower chance now than when he started the Hawks.
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Old 2012-11-07, 21:53   Link #45
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Who cares how Kakashi has this much Chakra left. If anyone has been in a competitive sports game in real life, you'll know you don't get tired, you don't think what's going on you just do it.

When you're life is on the line and your adrenaline's pumping, I would assume you'll give it all you can to survive. And if you need an explanation, there are a few i could think of, like the Kyuubi or Hachibi giving Kakashi some of their enormous amount of Chakra or being near Obito, or even discovering that Tobi is Obito had given him a second wind.
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Old 2012-11-07, 22:48   Link #46
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Hopefully there are some real consequences of this fight to Kakashi, Either he be killed or he shouldn't be able to use his Sharingan again.
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Old 2012-11-07, 23:45   Link #47
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Now we know Kakashi can suck himself back out of Obito's dimension so we don't get fans bringing up why Obito didn't use his overpowered OHKO attack.

Still, like others have brought up, Kakashi's using a lot of chakra to do this, so Obito could just keep spamming Kamui and he should run out, but I don't think we will see that happen.
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:04   Link #48
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Imo Sasuke is the hardest to predict. But personally i think he will end up helping Naruto defeating Madara ( directly or indirectly) at the very least. I don't see Naruto defeating him alone.

And yes, there is a good chance there might be a confrontation between Obito and Sasuke imo. But it's probably a lower chance now than when he started the Hawks.
but when he started the hawk and joined with obito, he did that gain access to bigger power, we should not forget that obito was in position of itachi's eyes, this could have another reason as to why sasuke tried to get closer to obito, i think obito has always been on his hitlist along with other elders to konoha, i wonder if they will be killed by sasuke or not
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Old 2012-11-08, 01:40   Link #49
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Imo Sasuke is the hardest to predict. But personally i think he will end up helping Naruto defeating Madara ( directly or indirectly) at the very least. I don't see Naruto defeating him alone.

And yes, there is a good chance there might be a confrontation between Obito and Sasuke imo. But it's probably a lower chance now than when he started the Hawks.
I don't see Sasuke getting involved with this fight. He has his own sub-plot with Orochimaru that will decide his future after he learns the truth.

At this point it is impossible to predict Kishi, but I can see Naruto being on the edge of defeat until the army shows up. Fodder gets destroyed, but the Konoha 12 get powerups and hold their own. Then Obito does a heel/face turn like Darth Vader on takes out Madara.

Afterwards Sasuke can arrive since Kishi did say Naruto and he would meet during the war. At that point, he would take over for Madara/Obito as main villain with the goal of being the host for the Jyuubi. Someone has to step up and be final villain. Otherwise we are out of villains and the manga ends.
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Old 2012-11-08, 02:21   Link #50
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i dunno if it's just the art it probably is, but on page 9 it actually looks like his sharingan is off

to give kakashi credit, he has been shown to be very careful this time around with this chakra conservation, since every panel shows him with his eye closed or his forehead protector over his eye

also, with reference to his fight with sasuke, in naruto time it might be a bit longer than a few days ago, but i'm guessing there's no real way to tell. However, if we really want to go by in manga naruto time, it's prob only been a few months- half a year ish since part 2 started and kakashi started using his mangekyo. So if he could make all this progress in a few months, then at that rate i wouldn't be that surprised if he'd finally overcome his motion sickness nonsense after using kamui since his last battle with sasuke

that being said, he'll prob have a heart attack at the end of all this
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Old 2012-11-08, 02:40   Link #51
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What's the point of a week break with a chapter returning with nothing happening..
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Old 2012-11-08, 06:37   Link #52
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Old 2012-11-08, 06:59   Link #53
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I don't see Sasuke getting involved with this fight. He has his own sub-plot with Orochimaru that will decide his future after he learns the truth.

At this point it is impossible to predict Kishi, but I can see Naruto being on the edge of defeat until the army shows up. Fodder gets destroyed, but the Konoha 12 get powerups and hold their own. Then Obito does a heel/face turn like Darth Vader on takes out Madara.

Afterwards Sasuke can arrive since Kishi did say Naruto and he would meet during the war. At that point, he would take over for Madara/Obito as main villain with the goal of being the host for the Jyuubi. Someone has to step up and be final villain. Otherwise we are out of villains and the manga ends.
What about Orochimaru?
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Old 2012-11-08, 12:12   Link #54
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That was Afternoon Tiger.
thanks. the art i assumed was a wind shrunken was actually naruto zipping over to kakashi...

i guess the authors point in having obito send kakashi to that other dimension was done to show that kakashi was capable of getting out. but it looked at first like obito was safely tucking kakashi away...
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Old 2012-11-08, 12:31   Link #55
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What about Orochimaru?
As much as I would love to see Orochimaru troll everyone and become Final Villain, he was likely only brought back to provide exposition for Sasuke. And then once his role has been fulfilled, will be discarded by Sasuke after Oro tries for that teenage boy body one last time.

It looks like none of Sannin will survive to see Naruto's HappyLand after the ninja system is changed.
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Old 2012-11-08, 16:05   Link #56
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if Guy goes to 8th gate, will he be able to beat Madara?
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Old 2012-11-08, 16:30   Link #57
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if Guy goes to 8th gate, will he be able to beat Madara?
Well if Lee could be as strong as a Kage by using all 8 gates, sure I guess Gai could defeat Madara...then again, he is not an Uchiha, Uzumaki or Senjuu, and they are the only ones who matter, so it's more likely Gai would simply beat a clone (ala recent chapters of Bleach).
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Old 2012-11-08, 16:37   Link #58
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if Guy goes to 8th gate, will he be able to beat Madara?
Pretty sure nobody can beat Madara since he's basically Immortal right now... Don't count out Kishi ending the story with Madara winning with a "no such thing as peace" theme to the entire story. If u compare to modern times, the Jinchuriiki were kind of kept as Atom bombs, so there's peace because of the massive weapons. The only way there would be peace and unity on Earth is if Aliens attacked -_-

Guy dies if he uses the 8th gate right?
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Old 2012-11-08, 16:53   Link #59
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Not just Guy. Anyone who opens the 8th gate will die after the effect wears off. Unless this is a shonen manga oh wait.


^Also explanation for kakashi's ridiculous chakra reserve. I'm so used to characters having obscene amounts of stamina near the endgame that I hardly even register it as a plot hole anymore.
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Old 2012-11-08, 19:01   Link #60
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There's that whole lack of death to named characters thing, but Gai probably has a Evening/Midnight attack to go with the 8th gate. If there's anytime we'd see it, it would be in this fight.

Also, we sort of got a direct explanation for Kakashi's chakra reserves in today's anime filler episode. It was along the lines of 'a shinobi's power multiplies when fighting for his friends', lol. Speaking of the anime, they sort of referenced some later material this week. It has Gai with the ascot look, Rin, and Kakashi on a mission. They briefly show Obito under the rock again too. Fleshing it out more for when the big reveal comes.
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