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Old 2012-11-09, 19:04   Link #521
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Boy, series are really testing my 7-episode minimum rule this season. That's what...4 series thus far that manage to nab my interest right around Episode 5 or 6?

I'm now intrigued to see what will happen here, since this is set to run 22 episodes. I'm not expecting anything Steins;Gate level, but it's good to know this isn't just turning out to be "stuck-in-the-school" series.
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Old 2012-11-09, 19:30   Link #522
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if its created by nitroplus and same team of chaos;head and steins;gate. Only schools setting is impossible. Its safe to assume someone is planning something behind the others back and a shady organization is at work.
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Old 2012-11-09, 19:34   Link #523
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if its created by nitroplus and same team of chaos;head and steins;gate. Only schools setting is impossible. Its safe to assume someone is planning something behind the others back and a shady organization is at work.
I did figure that, it's just that I'm glad it got around to it sooner rather than later.
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Old 2012-11-09, 20:47   Link #524
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Huh, if Okabe looked older than 18 then I guess it's only fitting that Kai looks a bit younger than 18. As for thoughts on the actual episode, while i like that Kai is finally getting more involved in the plot his character does feel a bit uneven, he still flip-flops a bit too much for my liking between not caring about what's around him and then suddenly taking an interest in the plot. Gripping aside, I'm glad that he's not keeping Airi and all the other stuff a secret, although it's going to be awkward to explain to Aki that her dad is involved in an global conspiracy.

Also, can anyone explain how magnetic monopoles in the Sun would cause it to explode? Skimming the wiki article on it but not seeing an immediate connection so far (unless they're saying that putting two of the same poles near each other could cause an explosion?).
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Old 2012-11-09, 21:07   Link #525
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He took interest in it because it already had happened before in his life while he was playing.
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Old 2012-11-09, 21:40   Link #526
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Urge, why does every Aki scene make me cringe? That's the main thing detracting from my enjoyment of the show right now
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Old 2012-11-09, 21:43   Link #527
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Also, can anyone explain how magnetic monopoles in the Sun would cause it to explode? Skimming the wiki article on it but not seeing an immediate connection so far (unless they're saying that putting two of the same poles near each other could cause an explosion?).
The sun is basically a big fusion reactor, It has a magnetic field and affecting it could cause various effects (In the Fusion reactor prototype the flare always happen where the magnetic shield is the weakest).
For the "sun is about to explode" either the translation is off or some massive piece is missing because no-one would gain something in that .
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Old 2012-11-09, 22:14   Link #528
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OK! so plot keeps on accelerating at this point, this is getting more interesting. and now we have magnetic monopoles . Which would be cutting edge topic in particle physics, the existence of which has bearing on Universal Theories & Grand Unified Theories.

Them finding Magnetic monopole(s) at the Sun's south pole area. wonder how that would lead to increased solar flares and eventual explosion(?)/nova(?). There should be quite a large amount of it to produce such an effect,contrary to current "lack" IRL science. Even in-universe they were able to Hide this effect from numerous researchers & facilities around the world and even amateur scientist, which is a bit strange, stretching believability a bit (definitely a lot harder to hide than time travel by CERN in S;G). I'm not even sure NASA is the leading SOLAR research group (are they?). Of course they have SOHO (satellite) , but Japan also has those like YOHKOH, and there are other ground based observatories.
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Old 2012-11-09, 22:47   Link #529
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Old 2012-11-09, 22:56   Link #530
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I'm not even sure NASA is the leading SOLAR research group (are they?). Of course they have SOHO (satellite) , but Japan also has those like YOHKOH, and there are other ground based observatories.
SOHO is part ESA, but NASA has STEREO, SDO, and three other missions (also, there are solar observation instruments aboard four of the GOES weather satellites). ESA has one other, Japan has Hinode (successor to Yohkoh), and there is also PICARD (CNES, France). These are the currently operating ones - there are a bunch more that are no longer functioning. This is all according to Wiki, so take that for what it's worth. Having the most space missions doesn't necessarily make NASA the leader though (as you said, there are ground-based observatories as well).

(Sorry, this is my aerospace geek side showing... )
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Old 2012-11-10, 00:21   Link #531
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...For the "sun is about to explode" either the translation is off or some massive piece is missing because no-one would gain something in that .
I think the translation is correct, and can think of three reasons "NASA" might conceal the truth. One, to avoid public panic in a case where no-one can do anything anyway. Two, the whole thing was NASA's fault, and they are madly trying to both conceal that fact and do something about it. Three, that there is more to it than the report writer knows, the Sun will not actually explode, and his information will cause completely unnecessary panic. In fiction, something happening at a particular point on a heavenly body can imply aliens, so maybe we should consider that, too.

But so far I am going on the basis that "magnetic monopoles" is just being used as a magic formula, and the whole thing doesn't actually have any basis in science. I did find some pages from a Russian site claiming that CERN's Large Hadrom Collider might produce monopoles and they could catalyze the destruction of all the protons on Earth. But that was on Earth, not the Sun.
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Old 2012-11-10, 01:10   Link #532
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But so far I am going on the basis that "magnetic monopoles" is just being used as a magic formula, and the whole thing doesn't actually have any basis in science. I did find some pages from a Russian site claiming that CERN's Large Hadrom Collider might produce monopoles and they could catalyze the destruction of all the protons on Earth. But that was on Earth, not the Sun.
They may be viewing it from a sci-fi angle and making the rather fast and loose argument that permanent magnetic monopoles in the sun could possibly increase the likelihood of the sun going supernova, since the sun is essentially a particle accelerator, and permanent magnetic monopoles would make for some rather good accelerants.

Edit: Actually, our sun doesn't have enough mass to supernova, but let's say the gist of the story is that permanent magnetic monopoles drastically increased particle acceleration in the sun, which in turn reduced the amount of years it would take for it to progress to red giant status, effectively devouring/burning up the Earth in the process.

Fear over the LHC destroying the earth seem a big misguided. We have an entire universe filled with what are essentially LHCs at a far larger scale. Our not seeing such destruction occurring throughout the universe would seem to argue that it's pretty darn unlikely the relatively puny energies the LHC is capable of is going to be able to do anything destructive on a practical scale.
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Old 2012-11-10, 01:39   Link #533
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Urge, why does every Aki scene make me cringe? That's the main thing detracting from my enjoyment of the show right now
That's interesting, Aki was the one thing keeping me IN this show.
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Old 2012-11-10, 02:08   Link #534
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When are OP and ED singles being released anyways?
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Old 2012-11-10, 02:12   Link #535
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When are OP and ED singles being released anyways?
ED is out, if I recall correctly. OP was the...21st?
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Old 2012-11-10, 06:25   Link #536
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Boy, series are really testing my 7-episode minimum rule this season. That's what...4 series thus far that manage to nab my interest right around Episode 5 or 6?

I'm now intrigued to see what will happen here, since this is set to run 22 episodes. I'm not expecting anything Steins;Gate level, but it's good to know this isn't just turning out to be "stuck-in-the-school" series.
well, Steins;Gate didn't become "a series with tonnes of potential" until that brilliant mindfuck moment in Akihabara at the end of ep9. It was that moment that I realise that I will love that series.
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Old 2012-11-10, 08:01   Link #537
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SOHO is part ESA, but NASA has STEREO, SDO, and three other missions (also, there are solar observation instruments aboard four of the GOES weather satellites). ESA has one other, Japan has Hinode (successor to Yohkoh), and there is also PICARD (CNES, France). These are the currently operating ones - there are a bunch more that are no longer functioning. This is all according to Wiki, so take that for what it's worth. Having the most space missions doesn't necessarily make NASA the leader though (as you said, there are ground-based observatories as well).

(Sorry, this is my aerospace geek side showing... )
yup this exactly, I just gave 1-2 examples. point being there are numerous groups studying the sun, not to mention amateur scientists. so its quite unbelievable that they can hide something like a massing of monopoles in the sun , NASA have an Earth size sun shield out there? or maybe an Earth size Hologram that can fool scientific equipments that means they have far superior alien(or future) tech ,

well actually they never said the monopoles were the cause of said flares and explosion did they? so the only possibility i see is that the magnetic monopole might probably just a side effect of the true cause. so it doesn't have to be that massive.... but then detecting it would be such a chore against a backdrop of that much radiation >.< ... so I'll just leave it to literary license. sci-fi stuff.
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Old 2012-11-10, 16:25   Link #538
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It get's better and better by episode... dunno why the slow start, that robo1 arc was really necessary? what has it added to the irrelevant story and character development
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Old 2012-11-10, 16:33   Link #539
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the robo one arc is introduction to Kai's ability plus it looks like the one running that tournament is connected to the organization or maybe its Nasa or Jaxa (not sure on what to call them) It looks to me they are monitoring the one who controls the robot and when they notice Kai in the finals they even begun investigating them.

If we based it in the first episode part where it looks like Kai is piloting the complete robot. Maybe the organization isn't that bad at all but I can't tell yet. They are probably planning to do something against the solar flares and magnetic poles and they need a good pilot or controller. Though that's only pure speculation. I got the idea of an organization running a tournament to find a pilot or a possible pilot from SRW.
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Old 2012-11-10, 17:43   Link #540
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By my limited understanding of physics, in a normal (bipolar) magnetic field particles flow from one pole to the other (due to the attraction-repulsion electromagnetic properties), that is how the earth magnetic field works and covers the planet, but in a monopole particles would either be only attracted or repelled, which with the power of the sun magnetic field would sounds bad, bad, bad.

Also, about NASA hiding this from us, maybe they are hiding it on plain-sight, as the average public undestands jack squat about physics. *puts tin foil hat*
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