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Old 2012-11-11, 12:01   Link #81
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The kids aren't even fully aware of what their doing because of their drugged state. So even if Nami and Chopper knocked them out, they wouldn't remember a thing and it's not like they would suffer long-term damaging effects. They would just get knocked out, which would be fine to resort to since they refuse to stop their rampage. You've gotta do what you've gotta do sometimes for everyone's best interest and safety.
To be fair, Nami's lightning almost killed countless marines during the Eneis Lobby arc, and even Zoro (or was it Sanji?) ended up very hurt. So, it's possible that she could kill many of the children.

Realistically, the best option would be mirages mixed with Robin's hand treatment and some sedatives from Chopper. Sadly, Oda decided to drag the chase out (ostensibly to move the characters from end of the building to the other), resulting in the 3 characters looking weaker and more foolish than they actually are (to put things in perspective, Usopp would have been the best match for capturing all the kids since a few vine attacks could have held them in place until they could be sedated (Luffy would have also been a good match, since he could have just looked at them and shut them down)). That being said, Zoro and Sanji would have been able to do nothing since their attacks are too dangerous against opponents they don't wish to end.
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Old 2012-11-11, 12:03   Link #82
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To be fair, Nami's lightning almost killed countless marines during the Eneis Lobby arc, and even Zoro (or was it Sanji?) ended up very hurt. So, it's possible that she could kill many of the children.
The kids are suped up because of the drugs, so I'd imagine that would make them more resilient than they normally are. And besides, full force isn't required to put them down. The strawhats shouldn't have an issue with this.
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Old 2012-11-11, 16:01   Link #83
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To add in my final 2 cents about how the Straw-Hats should handle the kids, I also agree that the best option would have been for Luffy to just knock them all out with a blast of CoC haki. At least as long as kids could handle the blast as well as grown-ups do (i;e it doesn't outright kill them instead of knocking them out).....
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Old 2012-11-11, 17:17   Link #84
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The kids are suped up because of the drugs, so I'd imagine that would make them more resilient than they normally are. And besides, full force isn't required to put them down. The strawhats shouldn't have an issue with this.
Can you really do a half-force lightning? Ignoring such things as cloud formations and negative or positive lightning, I do not know how well Nami can weaken her lightning strikes, so I still think it would be too powerful against the children.

That being said, I have no idea what damage the kids can take, and I doubt Nami does either. They are definitely "suped up", but that power-up is also undoubtedly putting a lot of pressure on their hearts (and brains), so introducing a strong electrical current could quite easily stop their hearts or fry their minds. (This is, of course, using regular world physics to describe possible outcomes in a fictional environment.) That is probably why sedation was being used, it's not only the humane thing to do, it's also the most likely to succeed without unnecessarily hurting (or killing) the children.

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To add in my final 2 cents about how the Straw-Hats should handle the kids, I also agree that the best option would have been for Luffy to just knock them all out with a blast of CoC haki. At least as long as kids could handle the blast as well as grown-ups do (i;e it doesn't outright kill them instead of knocking them out).....
It's not sakki or killing intent, so I doubt the kids would have died.
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Old 2012-11-11, 19:41   Link #85
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It's not sakki or killing intent, so I doubt the kids would have died.

Well, my point wasn't so much about Luffy intimidating the kids with killing intent, but rather if a child can handle the effects of a CoC blast as well as adults can. Like, would the force of the blast kill them due to their mind and/or body being more fragile than an adult's? That's what I'm wondering. I mean, I even recall Rayleigh telling Luffy before they started training that overuse of conqueror's haki would be dangerous, so what if accidentally killing children is one of the consequences of spamming that power.....?



Of course, it's most likely that I'm just overthinking this, but I do think it's something interesting to think about nonetheless.
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Old 2012-11-12, 15:33   Link #86
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So yeah, just bumping because while we already know the manga's on break this week, the plot of the Film Z movie was leaked, and so we've been discussing it at its respective thread. Surprisingly, it looks like it may have a lot of strong ties to the manga, and so I think the info very much makes up for the fact that there's a break this week.
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Old 2012-11-18, 00:49   Link #87
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I recently caught up with the anime and i was wondering who was the person Caribou mentioned he would inform about Shirahoshi being a weapon.
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Old 2012-11-18, 07:49   Link #88
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I recently caught up with the anime and i was wondering who was the person Caribou mentioned he would inform about Shirahoshi being a weapon.
well, the theorists say it's doflamingo. i tend to agree.
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Old 2012-11-18, 23:06   Link #89
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well, the theorists say it's doflamingo. i tend to agree.
I'm leaning towards Crocodile. He has shown the most interest in these weapons.
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Old 2012-11-19, 02:01   Link #90
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I think it's gotta be Kaidou. He's being set up as a villain character.
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Old 2012-11-19, 09:22   Link #91
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I think it's gotta be Kaidou. He's being set up as a villain character.
We don't really know much about Kaidou. He is the only yonkou yet to be revealed. He may take a liking to world weapons since X Drake is after him and there may be a connection to the marines, i.e. Kaidou might be an ex-marine, but other than that not much has been said. Wouldn't be surprised if he was related to Franky given the cameo by one of his henchmen, "iron boy" Scotch, in a new world island against X Drake. Scotch has the number 18 written on both his shoulders, a lot like the numbers of the battle frankies.
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Old 2012-11-19, 13:43   Link #92
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Yeah, I'm also gonna have to say Doflamingo. He's been getting a lot of build-up lately so I see no reason to NOT assume that he's the one Caribou referred to. The dude even does business as an info broker, after all....



Anyways, as you guys should know, there WILL be a chapter this week! Though I should also warn you in advance that we'll be seeing a few more breaks coming along soon (but this is due to the MAGAZINE taking a holiday break, NOT the author). Better yet, yours truly should be able to catch the spoilers this time around as I've FINALLY got my computer repaired! So expect the next thread to be made within the next couple of days.
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Old 2012-11-19, 13:45   Link #93
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We don't really know much about Kaidou. He is the only yonkou yet to be revealed. He may take a liking to world weapons since X Drake is after him and there may be a connection to the marines, i.e. Kaidou might be an ex-marine, but other than that not much has been said. Wouldn't be surprised if he was related to Franky given the cameo by one of his henchmen, "iron boy" Scotch, in a new world island against X Drake. Scotch has the number 18 written on both his shoulders, a lot like the numbers of the battle frankies.

More likely to be related to vegaunk in some way.
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Old 2012-11-19, 20:54   Link #94
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More likely to be related to vegaunk in some way.
Why vegapunk?
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Old 2012-11-20, 07:42   Link #95
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where's the new op thread? james? marvel?
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^Sorry for the wait, guys! New thread's right here, so go nuts!
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