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Old 2012-11-14, 05:27   Link #441
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Jojo you may not be the "best" show this season...
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...but rest assured you're number one in my broheart. For real. I needed a show like this so bad it's not even funny.
Ooooh. I couldn't agree more, then.

I'm continuously shocked over how effective this show can be. I mean, I care about those characters. I really do. And my eyes are fuckin' glued to the screen. I don't want Zeppeli to die. But as others have mentioned, at least it's sure to be a momentous, stupendous demise. He'll die a viking's death, without a doubt.
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Old 2012-11-14, 05:35   Link #442
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not sure about not the "best", but it's certainly the most enjoyable and entertaining one this season by faaaaaaaar
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Old 2012-11-14, 05:39   Link #443
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not sure about not the "best", but it's certainly the most enjoyable and entertaining one this season by faaaaaaaar
Yup, that's exactly right in my reckoning.
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Old 2012-11-14, 08:11   Link #444
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Future Cast announcement + Key Visual

Spoiler for Its a little bit spoiler if you sharp enough, so be warned:


So hyped
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Old 2012-11-14, 08:19   Link #445
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Joseph confirmed yet again for BEST JoJo.

And Major Kusanagi as Lisa Lisa =D
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Old 2012-11-14, 08:19   Link #446
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Old 2012-11-14, 14:26   Link #447
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Hell yeah!

With Sugita on the line, i see light of hope for part 3 and above to be animated! Hes definitely the guy that will bring Jojo's hype to the peak!
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Old 2012-11-14, 17:36   Link #448
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The most curious thing about this series is the contrast between the fantastic soundtrack and the god-awful animation. They are pretty much at the opposite end of the spectrum, and make me wonder why they could find a budget for one but not the other.
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Old 2012-11-14, 18:50   Link #449
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Spoiler for The PV for the fighting game if people want a quick preview of how Joseph will sound like. :


WARNING: since it's a fighting game PV it will contain future characters including Jotaro and co. I share it for the people who are already familiar with the franchise
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Old 2012-11-15, 05:28   Link #450
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The most curious thing about this series is the contrast between the fantastic soundtrack and the god-awful animation. They are pretty much at the opposite end of the spectrum, and make me wonder why they could find a budget for one but not the other.
Not sure but I think recording an OST is a lot less expensive than what's needed for animation.
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Old 2012-11-15, 05:31   Link #451
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I agree, but I think it's unusual to have standards so different for different aspects of the same production.
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Old 2012-11-15, 07:15   Link #452
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Well, cheap composer isn't impossible to produce great stuff for extreme example.. You can't produce great animation without money as opposite.

But I think for this case, its not about quality of BGM Track, what more stand out to me is how they using the right track at the right moment, the usage is just right on note and building momentum for watcher. Its just another case of David Pro effort to minimizing the impact of lack of animation in this show, I really appreciating that.
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Old 2012-11-15, 08:21   Link #453
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I don't think that the animation is cheap. (Not really a pro at discerning cheap animation) I think that the style is different. They seem to want to maintain a comic book feel with this.

How do you guys think that it is cheap?
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Old 2012-11-15, 08:25   Link #454
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I don't think that the animation is cheap. (Not really a pro at discerning cheap animation) I think that the style is different. They seem to want to maintain a comic book feel with this.

How do you guys think that it is cheap?
Well the actual fight scenes aren't very fluid and you can clearly see where they've cut corners. It doesn't really bother me all that much though since it was a bit of a gamble on the part of the producers as to whether or not reviving an 80's series in a late night slot would actually work so I can understand why the budget's not that high and the style they use makes up for it.

It does look like the series will sell though so hopefully if they animate part 3 and beyond the budget will be better
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Old 2012-11-15, 08:28   Link #455
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The animation is cheap. Things move so little that they really have to use the whole range of limited animation tricks to make things look somewhat dynamic.
To be honest, I can't recall a fighting anime that had a lower animation budget than this.
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Old 2012-11-15, 08:50   Link #456
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It certainly is cheap, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. There's such amazing things that have been done with a low budget.

While the number of frames is very low and the accuracy of the drawings isn't high, there are quite a few stylistic choices that I really appreciate.

I do appreciate the fact that this animation studio is trying to maintain the original feeling of the manga even if it means doing stuff that normally you don't see in anime.

Onomatopeia in the middle of the screen, ridiculous body postures, impossible physics, people hovering in mid air with no apparent explanation.

If it was a normal show all of those things would be considered very bad, so a less courageous animation studio could have decided to "fix" them on the assumption that "certain things can work in a manga but not so much when animated".
But this anime proves that there's nothing that "can't work" when properly done, even if it breaks with every existing schemes or conventions.
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Old 2012-11-15, 08:54   Link #457
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Animation is cheap, which is why it's harder for newcomers to get into JoJo when they get used to stuff like Raildex or Hunter x Hunter 2011. In term of studio power level, David Prod is by no mean Sunrise, Madhouse, Toei or... JCStaff (when they works on Raildex).

The saving graces of JoJo TV are the appropriate use of soundtrack (a point of HEAVY discussion in Hunter x Hunter 2011 when compared to the 1999 version), the direction which more than make up for the cheap animation AND the burning passion you can feel from the voice actors. They and the director ARE having fun with JoJo and IT SHOWS.

Watching JoJo 2012 is like watching a kung-fu flick of the Shaw Brothers from the 1970s, it's cheesy, it's hammy, it's by no means an Academy Awards material. You don't watch it while seeking some grand message about the meaning of life, you don't watch it hoping to unravel some secret behind the symbolism scattered around by the director's acid trip, no. You watch it for the good old battle of good vs evil and larger-than-life characters. And want to feel good when the good guys stuff their knuckle sandwiches into the baddies' face and cry manly tears when a noble villain is redeemed through death, or when a precious friend or/and mentor have to bow out of the show.
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Old 2012-11-15, 09:05   Link #458
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To be honest, I can't recall a fighting anime that had a lower animation budget than this.
Oh come on now,there's always Musashi Gundoh
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Old 2012-11-15, 09:18   Link #459
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It certainly is cheap, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.
The thing is, it doesn't even have the chance to be bad, since things barely even move
But yeah, I have to say they really make the most out of their incredibly limited animation. They use a lot of tricks to avoid making it look embarrassing, and they use them well.

It actually looks like they planned the series with the limits of their animation in mind, which it's pretty impressive in itself.
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Old 2012-11-15, 09:43   Link #460
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Oh come on now,there's always Musashi Gundoh
Oh my...

This is so bad that it actually made me laugh hard. This was done in 2006 too? Unbelievable...
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