US Elections 2012 Part II: The Conventions, Debates and Election results

[Xacual]

Well that millionaire group seems fine, so I don't see why you're calling it bullshit just because it came out on that site.

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by Xacual

Well that millionaire group seems fine, so I don't see why you're calling it bullshit just because it came out on that site.

The same reason that I don't use FoxNews, because nothing they say can be trusted.

They're propagandists (though from different political perspectives) and while they may mix truth with lies, the result is still misleading and innacurate.

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by GundamFan0083

The same reason that I don't use FoxNews, because nothing they say can be trusted.

They're propagandists (though from different political perspectives) and while they may mix truth with lies, the result is still misleading and innacurate.

It's on other news sites, you can even go to their website which I linked last page.

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by Xacual

It's on other news sites, you can even go to their website which I linked last page.

Are you referring to the article on the "Patriotic Millianaires for Fiscal Strength" site owned by the Agenda Project?
The Agenda Project is owned by Erica Payne, she is political marketting strategist (propagandist, think Karl Rove only left-wing), and I am leery of anything she touches.

Her Tesseract Group is more straightforward in telling what its goals are. That being the implementation of a propaganda strategy to implement a 21st Century Progressive agenda.

It's like RedState or Breitbart, or any of those types of right-wing groups.
It is very difficult to trust their articles and I try hard never to use them.

Sadly it is getting increasingly difficult to find unbias information.

[Irenicus]

No, you're just crazy.

Stop visiting the strange parts of the Internet.

[monir]

Originally Posted by Xacual

It's on other news sites, you can even go to their website which I linked last page.

This is Warrne Buffet's OP-Ed column from NY Times from last year to help you with your argument.

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by Irenicus

No, you're just crazy.

Stop visiting the strange parts of the Internet.

Those are the BEST parts!!

[Irenicus]

At least drop the weed when you're, uh, trying to look for unbiased information or, say, form a proper political opinion, 'kay?

The old media isn't that bad. If you really have to just use the Beeb or NYT.

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by Irenicus

At least drop the weed when you're, uh, trying to look for unbiased information or, say, form a proper political opinion, 'kay?

There's no weed involved, nor drugs necessary.
All I did was point out the facts about Mother Jones.
If the truth is considered crazy, then I'm as mad as a hatter.

Also, the "Buffet Rule" was dissected by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and found to be less than genuine.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...mberg-tax-rate

[willx]

Originally Posted by GundamFan0083

There's no weed involved, nor drugs necessary.
All I did was point out the facts about Mother Jones.
If the truth is considering crazy, then I'm as mad as a hatter.

Also, the "Buffet Rule" was dissected by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and found to be less than genuine.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...mberg-tax-rate

You're aware that Bloomberg endorsed Obama right?

Outcome remains uncertain

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by willx

You're aware that Bloomberg endorsed Obama right?

Outcome remains uncertain

Which is precisely why I chose that article.

[monir]

Originally Posted by GundamFan0083

There's no weed involved, nor drugs necessary.
All I did was point out the facts about Mother Jones.
If the truth is considered crazy, then I'm as mad as a hatter.

Also, the "Buffet Rule" was dissected by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and found to be less than genuine.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...mberg-tax-rate

Not much dissection there. Lot's of opinions and guess work there though, but that's to be expected from Daily News, pretty much a tabloid style newspaper with a lose emphasis on news. NY Post is a bit more respectable or was... until Murdock got his dirty paw on that one too. I, however, agree with you on Mother Jones. We know they have an axe to grind when they took away Romney's undies by releasing that video. That said, a lot of millionaires and billionaires have been calling for a tax-hike since the Bush era.

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by monir

Not much dissection there. Lot's of opinions and guess work there though, but that's to be expected from Daily News, pretty much a tabloid style newspaper with a lose emphasis on news. NY Post is a bit more respectable or was... until Murdock got his dirty paw on that one too. I, however, agree with you on Mother Jones. We know they have an axe to grind when they took away Romney's undies by releasing that video. That said, a lot of millionaires and billionaires have been calling for a tax-hike since the Bush era.

WHAT? NO WAY. When did Murdock buy the NY Post?
I didn't know that.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by GundamFan0083

WHAT? NO WAY. When did Murdock buy the NY Post?
I didn't know that.

Murdock had to renounce his Australian citizenship in 1985 in order to buy so much of the American assets. I am sorry America, but he is your problem now. We Australians don't want him back.

[ganbaru]

On eve of fiscal cliff talks, positions harden
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8A80WV20121115

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by ganbaru

On eve of fiscal cliff talks, positions harden
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8A80WV20121115

Obama now learned that Republicans only play hardball. They see compromise as a sign of weakness. If the GOP want to play Hardball then Obama would play along. He has a better hand of cards this time, and time is on his side.

It is GOP's responsibility to offer something Obama would sign before everyone's taxes go up. Either way Obama wins.

[Destined_Fate]

Why can't Politicians for once do their dang jobs? If I ever drew something out this long I would have been fired from any of my old jobs on the first day.

[Mr. DJ]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Why can't Politicians for once do their dang jobs? If I ever drew something out this long I would have been fired from any of my old jobs on the first day.

because money

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Why can't Politicians for once do their dang jobs? If I ever drew something out this long I would have been fired from any of my old jobs on the first day.

That's the problem with politics; Politicians are not working for the PEOPLE, not unless they are independents. Those who are in a political party, which is nearly all of them, work for the Party. Because there is no point being loved by the voters if the party want you destroyed.

The GOP want Obama obstructed. And that's what they will do no matter what. Screw the voters.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

That's the problem with politics; Politicians are not working for the PEOPLE, not unless they are independents. Those who are in a political party, which is nearly all of them, work for the Party. Because there is no point being loved by the voters if the party want you destroyed.

The GOP want Obama obstructed. And that's what they will do no matter what. Screw the voters.

Not quite right. They're still working for the people. However, it's their people, not the country's people. They only have to answer to a small collective of loyal/brainwashed folk who care not for what is actually happening, merely what they perceive to be happening. And it just so happens that they perceive Obama to be a Muslim terrorist, and their representatives are working to prevent him from selling the USA to China.