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Old 2012-11-17, 17:10   Link #11161
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^ Well, she does have a black hole inside her, if Oudo is anything to go by.
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Old 2012-11-17, 17:20   Link #11162
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Coincidentally enough, Shiranui has casually discussed with Zenkichi the concept of devouring a Black-Hole while deciding what to get for an evening snack.

Sounds legit.
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Old 2012-11-17, 19:52   Link #11163
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Yeah, no. I'd have to disagree with half of that.

Zenkichi is not only a certified Boss, he's one of the most interesting characters in this manga. Even an entire arc dedicated to him didn't seem enough to analyze his character, to me. Just like I feel the Minus arc isn't quite enough for Kumagawa.

But you're right about Medaka. Even though, she's sorta build to be like that. Even her kid self looks bored with the current situation.

I was referring to the fact that Zenkichi is more interesting apart from Medaka than with Medaka. It's Medaka that makes Zenkichi boring, not Zenkichi being boring in himself.

So, yes, I'd agree with you that Zen is potentially interesting, but Zen is only interesting apart from Medaka. Which is why I feel that Zen comes to life whenever he is apart from Medaka.
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Old 2012-11-17, 20:01   Link #11164
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Oh. I see.

Yeah, I agree completely with you then.

Without a doubt, Medaka does bring out some of the worst his character has to offer.
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Old 2012-11-18, 00:54   Link #11165
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I was referring to the fact that Zenkichi is more interesting apart from Medaka than with Medaka. It's Medaka that makes Zenkichi boring, not Zenkichi being boring in himself.

So, yes, I'd agree with you that Zen is potentially interesting, but Zen is only interesting apart from Medaka. Which is why I feel that Zen comes to life whenever he is apart from Medaka.
Yeah its like medakas flame swallows zens flame cause its so big , zenkichi is more like a natural leader and when he is not with medaka people gather around him .
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Old 2012-11-18, 09:12   Link #11166
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Why is Shiranui always causing trouble to Medaka? Medaka wants to meet the professor, the professor was about to welcome them, but no, Shiranui wants the professor to hurt Medaka and her friends just because she don't want to see Medaka. She don't care about the consequence of her action at all.

Wtf, dude.
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Old 2012-11-18, 09:17   Link #11167
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Why is Shiranui always causing trouble to Medaka? Medaka wants to meet the professor, the professor was about to welcome them, but no, Shiranui wants the professor to hurt Medaka and her friends just because she don't want to see Medaka. She don't care about the consequence of her action at all.

Wtf, dude.
I think it's because she still has to sort out wether she likes her or hates her. Currently she doesn't even know about her own feelings, so saying that may buy her time to think about it. And it's not like Fukurou and the suitors plan to kill Medaka's group, anyway, just keep them at bay.

At least, that's my personal view.
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Old 2012-11-18, 10:11   Link #11168
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Technically speaking, Shiranui just said that she couldn't allow them to meet, Fukurou and Medaka, that is.

Why? No clue. We're not supposed to have a clue, though. Even Shiranui herself dosen't know. The only thing we know is that she thinks she's not that admirable of a person, and that she's irresponsible.
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Old 2012-11-18, 11:49   Link #11169
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Technically speaking, Shiranui just said that she couldn't allow them to meet, Fukurou and Medaka, that is.

Why? No clue. We're not supposed to have a clue, though. Even Shiranui herself dosen't know. The only thing we know is that she thinks she's not that admirable of a person, and that she's irresponsible.
Well, then she could at least ask the Professor to hides/moves her away from the location if she doesn't want to see Medaka instead of asking the professor to "stop" Medaka's group.
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Old 2012-11-18, 11:55   Link #11170
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You're confused.

She said she didn't want Medaka to meet with Doctor Tsurubami.
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Old 2012-11-18, 12:14   Link #11171
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You're confused.

She said she didn't want Medaka to meet with Doctor Tsurubami.
You're right, I forgot about that. Well, that might be because it looks like she's still protecting Medaka - Karai even asks her if she's still acting as her double, after all
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Old 2012-11-18, 13:16   Link #11172
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^Pretty much.

Although, she seems to half reject that notion, stating that she dosen't think she's that admirable of a person.

Personally, I think that might just be a product of her own confusion. She has no idea how she really feels. I wouldn't like if the feelings she showed the day before to Medaka were real, to be honest. I loved the Shiranui that didn't give a crap about anyone, except for the obvious exception. And she seems to be at her most direct and clear when she's talking/acting about/on that friendship.
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Old 2012-11-18, 13:41   Link #11173
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Although that may change considering that Medaka Box is still a shonen manga consider that most shonen manga is about friendship and what not.
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Old 2012-11-18, 14:21   Link #11174
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Why is Shiranui always causing trouble to Medaka? Medaka wants to meet the professor, the professor was about to welcome them, but no, Shiranui wants the professor to hurt Medaka and her friends just because she don't want to see Medaka. She don't care about the consequence of her action at all.

Wtf, dude.
What exactly are you complaining about? It's sounds like you're nitpicking.
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Old 2012-11-18, 19:11   Link #11175
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What exactly are you complaining about? It's sounds like you're nitpicking.
So, I am not allow to complain the character's weakness/poor decision now? Funny you know, some of the posters were not happy with Medaka's action and they were posted all over here in the past.

Did you said the same thing to them too?
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Old 2012-11-19, 11:43   Link #11176
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So, I am not allow to complain the character's weakness/poor decision now? Funny you know, some of the posters were not happy with Medaka's action and they were posted all over here in the past.

Did you said the same thing to them too?
Actually, I have. Maybe not frequently, but I have. While I'm not the biggest fan of Medaka, I don't see her as the antichrist. I just think it's better to question a character's motivation rather than simply bash them because because "I think they're annoying".
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Old 2012-11-19, 14:35   Link #11177
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I really need to know what happened in the middle school and why doesnt zenkichi remembers it pls explain it to me mangaka
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Old 2012-11-19, 15:54   Link #11178
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why doesnt zenkichi remembers it
All Fiction.
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Old 2012-11-19, 17:10   Link #11179
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All Fiction.
A possible explanation.

But I don't know. Medaka dosen't remember it either. And it seems as though All-Fiction has no effect over her.

I generally just thought that the trauma was so much, their minds erased the memories as a defense mechanism, though I agree that's really pushing it.

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On another note, what is it you guys's want explained most about middle-school?

Personally, Kumagawa talked as if he, Zenkichi and Anshin'-san were friends or something. Even Anshin'-san said something wierd in the same fashion. I'd really like to know what the fuck they were talking about.

Oh, and that whole Akune/Ajimu deal as well.
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Old 2012-11-19, 19:00   Link #11180
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But I don't know. Medaka dosen't remember it either. And it seems as though All-Fiction has no effect over her.
When was this said? Hell, it's basically outright stated in the first chapter of the current arc that All Fiction is the reason no one remembers middle school.
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On another note, what is it you guys's want explained most about middle-school?
Why Maguro remembered Ajimu. And, for that matter, who the fifth member of Kumagawa's student council was.
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