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Old 2012-11-29, 16:49   Link #21
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Well, with the current economic crisis, they already own half the US, so I wonder if it's in the US financial interest to act
I know it's just a figure of speech, but I still find it annoying - China isn't remotely close to"own" half of the US.

And it cuts both ways, the Chinese holding of US debt would hurt them just as bad should they decide to use it as a weapon against the US.
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Old 2012-11-29, 17:39   Link #22
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I know it's just a figure of speech, but I still find it annoying - China isn't remotely close to"own" half of the US.

And it cuts both ways, the Chinese holding of US debt would hurt them just as bad should they decide to use it as a weapon against the US.
it would be worst,

the US could go into a depression and still survive but the current Chinese government would not make it out of a depression.
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Old 2012-11-29, 17:47   Link #23
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it would be worst,

the US could go into a depression and still survive but the current Chinese government would not make it out of a depression.
I know what you mean
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Old 2012-11-29, 17:51   Link #24
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Is it an act of piracy if you board a ship in international disputed water, and force them to yield to your demand?
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Old 2012-11-29, 17:55   Link #25
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Is it an act of piracy if you board a ship in international disputed water, and force them to yield to your demand?
which is why they won't, harass some fisherman to make a point YES.

but actually boarding a ship? NO.
not unless someone went overboard and did something really stupid.
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Old 2012-11-29, 17:56   Link #26
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Is it an act of piracy if you board a ship in international disputed water, and force them to yield to your demand?
Piracy is like robbery.

It'll be funny if they take the ships in custody while forcing the crew to walk the plank....
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Old 2012-11-29, 18:35   Link #27
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Is it an act of piracy if you board a ship in international disputed water, and force them to yield to your demand?
No, because piracy by definition means that the ones that boarded do not answer to a higher authority, such as a state.
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Old 2012-11-29, 18:46   Link #28
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And if they don't consider the area international waters?
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Old 2012-11-29, 18:47   Link #29
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And if they don't consider the area international waters?
Tell that to PRC... their leaders are becoming more stupid as we speak...
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Old 2012-11-29, 19:03   Link #30
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Tell that to PRC... their leaders are becoming more stupid as we speak...
This.

With such idiots in place, everyone should slam the door into the PRC's faces on the diplomatic field for starters.
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Old 2012-11-29, 19:31   Link #31
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This.

With such idiots in place, everyone should slam the door into the PRC's faces on the diplomatic field for starters.
Tell that to people like Lee Hsien Long. "Our paycheck is more important than your pride" is probably their mantra.
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Old 2012-11-29, 19:40   Link #32
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This.

With such idiots in place, everyone should slam the door into the PRC's faces on the diplomatic field for starters.
Kira, you are 29, you are too old to be that naive.

In international politics, there are no morals or ethics, no enemies or friends.
Today's friend is potentially tomorrows enemies
Today's enemies is potentially tomorrows friend
Morals and Ethics has NEVER matter in the past and will NEVER matter in the future.
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Old 2012-11-29, 19:45   Link #33
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Kira, you are 29, you are too old to be that naive.

In international politics, there are no morals or ethics, no enemies or friends.
Today's friend is potentially tomorrows enemies
Today's enemies is potentially tomorrows friend
Morals and Ethics has NEVER matter in the past and will NEVER matter in the future.
But what matters is the present. We can't predict the future in first place. Letting them do what they want will just make things worst.
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Old 2012-11-29, 19:49   Link #34
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But what matters is the present. We can't predict the future in first place. Letting them do what they want will just make things worst.
Everyone what is best for themselves today, that i agree

I am responding to Kira's question about why other county are still dealing with China.

The obvious answer is of course because they got something to gain form it too.
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Old 2012-11-29, 19:55   Link #35
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Everyone what is best for themselves today, that i agree

I am responding to Kira's question about why other county are still dealing with China.

The obvious answer is of course because they got something to gain form it too.
I see... hehe.

Anyway, I got no or less interest in China's economic expansion( I suck in Economics BTW). Whether it relates to that expansion we are dealing with territories here that can't be ignored. They're claiming islands and now the sea or everything that has "China" labelled on it....
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Old 2012-11-29, 20:01   Link #36
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They're claiming islands and now the sea or everything that has "China" labelled on it....
Believe it or not in my state there is a county officially called China
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Old 2012-11-29, 20:07   Link #37
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Believe it or not in my state there is a county officially called China
Now if China ridiculously claims it, is it ok?
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Old 2012-11-29, 20:29   Link #38
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Now if China ridiculously claims it, is it ok?
They wouldn't need to go to Venesuela to have a foothold in America
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Old 2012-11-29, 22:09   Link #39
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What the hell does the police has anything to do with disputed areas?? Isnt it the job of army if China wants to force claim an area??
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Old 2012-11-29, 22:17   Link #40
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What the hell does the police has anything to do with disputed areas?? Isnt it the job of army if China wants to force claim an area??
Police have doubts to either fire a pistol. Put a soldier there and you got war...
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