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Old 2012-11-26, 06:52   Link #1281
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Wow, I thought Kujira looked similar to Medaka, but I didn't expect to her to actually be their sibling, and her ideals are definitely different .

Wonder how things will go now that Medaka met her again.
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Old 2012-11-26, 07:12   Link #1282
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Kujira is really odd... people are struggling to avoid unfortunate events but she actually pursue them...
too bad that she erased all of her memories... and it's painful to see her defeating her own brother...

Medaka, open your Kuji-nee eyes and snap some consciousness to her! make her normal again... (lol! although she's an Abnormal)
Why, despite similar backgrounds, did Kujira and Medaka turned out differently? That, is , I think the interesting question at hand, because Kujira is a little different from all the other "strangers" Medaka saved, since Medaka and Kujira are siblings. Very different equation altogether here.
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Old 2012-11-26, 09:21   Link #1283
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Um... how are they different? They're the same. Remember a few episodes ago when Maguro offered to train Medaka and Zenkichi? He gave them a choice between no-effort sleep improvement and hellish course with a risk of death. No indication was made that the risky one would lead to better results. Yet Medaka and her disciple chose to risk their lives for absolutely no reason. Medaka also believes that great things come from enduring hell. Naze isn't very different from her at all.

Come to think of it, that's also Medaka's entire reasoning for wanting to stop the Flask Plan. The idea of a Genius Drink is offensive to her ideology.

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Old 2012-11-26, 11:32   Link #1284
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the great sicon is true to his words, nothing but imouto^^

this family reunion will be interesting
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Old 2012-11-27, 06:55   Link #1285
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From what I can read on the official website, it seems that Medaka Box abnormal last episode is once again going to be written by Nisio sensei, Wonder what it will be about this time
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Old 2012-11-27, 08:24   Link #1286
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Hopefully they would still keep that entrance scene for naked apron senpai. I would hate it so much if they change it to something lame.
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Old 2012-11-27, 08:38   Link #1287
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Better yet, I hope Nisio comes up with a huge troll ending featuring Naked Apron-senpai that will absolutely frustrate the viewers and have them screaming for more when there won't be any.
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Old 2012-11-28, 00:44   Link #1288
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From what I can read on the official website, it seems that Medaka Box abnormal last episode is once again going to be written by Nisio sensei, Wonder what it will be about this time
Going by the opening, King Kittan giant robots
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Old 2012-11-28, 06:20   Link #1289
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Um... how are they different? They're the same. Remember a few episodes ago when Maguro offered to train Medaka and Zenkichi? He gave them a choice between no-effort sleep improvement and hellish course with a risk of death. No indication was made that the risky one would lead to better results. Yet Medaka and her disciple chose to risk their lives for absolutely no reason. Medaka also believes that great things come from enduring hell. Naze isn't very different from her at all.
I thought that Maguro was testing them. Had they chosen the sleeping course it would have meant that they weren't serious and Maguro would have probably refused to train them.

It's true that both Medaka and Kujira think that you require a lot of effort to achieve greatness. However Kujira also thinks that to achieve great things you must be miserable and suffer a lot. She was blessed with talents, looks and wealth but rejected everything for her misplaced beliefs.
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Old 2012-11-28, 13:12   Link #1290
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Old 2012-11-28, 17:04   Link #1291
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From what I can read on the official website, it seems that Medaka Box abnormal last episode is once again going to be written by Nisio sensei, Wonder what it will be about this time
Oh god im expecting so much trolling .
Spoiler for Spoiler for the manga:
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Old 2012-11-28, 23:03   Link #1292
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Old 2012-11-30, 08:05   Link #1293
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yea feel bring EVERYONE on it now.

give medaka cena oh boy really do demand of her sister yet what end-up now medaka is kidnap about be mind clean by zod rip-off.

at least help came in aka loser team give call in by certain "qb"/Shiranui but now battle plus 6 vs loser team.

oh masked 13 appear pull a sleep gas on student council with only Kikaijima still standing.
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Old 2012-11-30, 11:17   Link #1294
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Miyuki Sawashiro is terrific as Naze. She's making this anime so much more entertaining to watch.
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Old 2012-11-30, 14:54   Link #1295
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Medaka meets her long lost sister Naze.
Now that was not a typical family reunion.
Naze is totally a psycho and beyond saving.
Medaka's goodness was brutally used by Naze.
She shouldn't have been so trustful.
Those reinforcements with Unzen were kinda refreshing and very much needed.
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Old 2012-11-30, 16:34   Link #1296
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Beautifull desconstruction of the "You are my enemy but I trust you!" clichè!

This second season is clearly better than the first, saddly there won't be a third...
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Old 2012-11-30, 20:59   Link #1297
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This episode sort of went from awesome, to what? Back to awesome again.

One second Medaka and everyone else seem to be doing ok, the next second she's been kidnapped and her brother is losing his abnormality. I was like....what? Thankfully their allies showed up and that brought the awesomeness back up, and the ending had me hyped.
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Old 2012-11-30, 23:25   Link #1298
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Beautifull desconstruction of the "You are my enemy but I trust you!" clichè!

This second season is clearly better than the first, saddly there won't be a third...
It's this arc , the Flask Plan arc, where you'd see Nisio starting with his Deconstructions (or parodies, or critique if you will of Shounen)

For example, one of the most critical lines was:

"Why was I born."

That's actually the central question of a Sue. What purpose does a Sue serve? Given the unrelenting hostility towards the concept of Mary Sue, if a Mary Sue was genre aware enough to realize she was a Sue, what happens then?

Naze offers one scenario, Medaka Offers another. That's what I mean when I say that Naze and Medaka start with the same conditions (a wealthy family, a live in paradise, perfection to the point that they are both Mary Sues, and sufficient awareness to realize they are Mary Sue's)

The central question from that realization then would be : does life have meaning when life has no challenges? Why do I (a Mary Sue) exist for, besides merely existing to be "awesome", which isn't really much of an existence to begin with, when you look at it?

Naze's answer to that is : if Indeed, I am Happy (a Sue), I am better off dead. Therefore, I shall suffer (Anti-Sue), and in suffering, achieve purpose.

Medaka's stance: Benevolence is my purpose in life. Therefore, I shall be as Benevolent as possible, as a purpose and challenge I set for myself. Whether I am intrinsically Benevolent (and that's the question the anime has made clear than Naze wants to know the answer too) is irrelevant from my standpoint. This is actually what Unzen was questioning - the principle behind Medaka's purpose.

Of course, Unzen misdiagnoses the true reason why Medaka chooses the path of Benevolence in the first place. Treat everything from the Unzen arc seriously, and I think Anime Only viewers should be able to guess the answer. There's enough hints in the anime alone.

In actuality, that's why alot of manga readers were angry by Gainax blind adaptation of the first arc. It makes it much more difficult to appreciate everything from the Unzen arc onwards. Too much time (three quarters of a cour) was spent presenting a case (Medaka, the benevolent perfect super-human), that most readers didn't proceed to ask : why Medaka is the way she is to begin with?

Unzen asked part of that question, but I suspect it sailed past most anime viewers quite understandably, because let's face it, after seeing Nine Episodes of Medaka-sue, it's quite hard to treat Medaka Box seriously enough to acknowledge that Medaka Box doesn't just end with the antics of a Sue (and Medaka is a very deliberate Sue, mind you). Viewers have been too condition to see Medaka Box as being too shallow that by the time Medaka Box goes deeper, most Anime-only viewers would quite understandably dismiss it as a temporary abberation, or an equally shallow attempt to sound deep.

Sadly, I think Medaka Box scared away most viewers who would have appreciated the Flask Plan arc. (Especially Post-Naze).

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This episode sort of went from awesome, to what? Back to awesome again.

One second Medaka and everyone else seem to be doing ok, the next second she's been kidnapped and her brother is losing his abnormality. I was like....what? Thankfully their allies showed up and that brought the awesomeness back up, and the ending had me hyped.
Well, think of the first half of the Pre-Naze Flask Plan arc as setting up a case of Shounen, and the second half, Post-Naze, being Nisio taking a gigantic chainsaw to the case of Shounen he built up so far.

I think it's a case of subverted expectations in your case. Which is what Medaka Box does, all the time, after the Unzen Arc begins onwards. (Anime wise, this is the last three episodes of Medaka Box's first season).

Just remember, Medaka Box is a Troll-fic Meta Shounen Manga written by Nisio.
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Old 2012-12-05, 02:26   Link #1299
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This episode sort of went from awesome, to what? Back to awesome again.

One second Medaka and everyone else seem to be doing ok, the next second she's been kidnapped and her brother is losing his abnormality. I was like....what? Thankfully their allies showed up and that brought the awesomeness back up, and the ending had me hyped.
Yea. Part of me was thinking -- OK, Medaka becomes a damsel. How typical...

But, nothing wrong with a big brawl party. On top of that, Miss Swimmer gets some action. Oh, how I wanna hold her breath for her.
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Old 2012-12-05, 10:52   Link #1300
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6 vs 6 haha... have a bit of Saint Seiya feel

so Medaka herself will be the next enemy i guess
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