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Old 2012-11-30, 15:37   Link #101
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Considering how Kishimoto treats we'll have to wait like 70 chapters to have him come back. No kidding, after Part I's (vol 27) end Sasuke was absent until volume 34. After his big arc and Itachi's death (vols 38-43), he was absent from three volumes, he then got a reappearance during vols 48-52, but did not return until vol 61
But at that time there were a lot of other characters in the story, now that most of them are dead he has to appear after this war ends, or else new kage level characters have to be introduced, but by now we know almost all characters of the Narutoverse that are strong enough to be part of the story and they are either dead or in the alliance. Some old guy could be introduced that's like Danzou or Chiyo, but why would someone who has already retired want to fight against Naruto and the alliance? Or some parts of the alliance could betray them and try to rule the world, but there was not even one hint that anyone has such intentions. Sure it would be cool if some new leaders emerge after the war who want to take control and then Naruto has to face them but unfortunately Gaara's speech and all the fighting has made every ninja of the alliance very friendly even if for almost hudred years these 5 villages were mortal enemies and were constantly plotting against each other (for example the cloud village trying to kidnap hinata and Naruto's mother). Such a scenario would be possible only inside infinite tsukiyomi, if Obito creates different incidents between villages and they start to hate each other again. It would be funny to have an alternate story line inside infinite tsukiyomi.
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Old 2012-11-30, 16:53   Link #102
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It would be funny to have an alternate story line inside infinite tsukiyomi.
Road to Ninja already depicted this kind of scenario and the results were pretty good. Can't spoil much here though.
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Old 2012-11-30, 19:06   Link #103
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Road to Ninja already depicted this kind of scenario and the results were pretty good. Can't spoil much here though.
That sounds interesting. I was thinking about Obito testing Naruto, to prove that Naruto is no better than him. So inside the genjutsu he could have both Hinata and Sakura get killed before Naruto's eyes, to prove that Naruto will become like him eventually. Naruto already lost himself once when Pain apparently killed Hinata. I think that for Tobito not only winning is important but also to prove that he is right, and he was already shocked when he heard that Naruto has changed Nagato, so it's probable he would want to prove his dogma by breaking down Naruto. In this chapter he said that Naruto is very similar to his young self but eventually he'll turn out like him, so maybe he will want to prove it if both Kakashi and Naruto challenge his views of the world while they keep fighting. And if he can't break Naruto that could trigger his conversion to the good side and sacrficing himself to save the alliance from Madara.
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Old 2012-11-30, 20:12   Link #104
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That sounds interesting. I was thinking about Obito testing Naruto, to prove that Naruto is no better than him. So inside the genjutsu he could have both Hinata and Sakura get killed before Naruto's eyes, to prove that Naruto will become like him eventually. Naruto already lost himself once when Pain apparently killed Hinata. I think that for Tobito not only winning is important but also to prove that he is right, and he was already shocked when he heard that Naruto has changed Nagato, so it's probable he would want to prove his dogma by breaking down Naruto. In this chapter he said that Naruto is very similar to his young self but eventually he'll turn out like him, so maybe he will want to prove it if both Kakashi and Naruto challenge his views of the world while they keep fighting. And if he can't break Naruto that could trigger his conversion to the good side and sacrficing himself to save the alliance from Madara.
Something that surprises me a lot about this manga is that the main villain is never established. First we had Orochimaru but later he confirmed there somebody stronger than him in Akatsuki. Then we had Akatsuki's leader Pain who remained anonymous. Then we learned of Tobi's true colors and his role in the plot's backstory made him a perfect main antagonist for Naruto. Now Madara Uchiha has appeared and I don't know who would be the final (although Madara's backstory makes him more fit to fight Sasuke rather than Naruto).
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Old 2012-12-01, 06:56   Link #105
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Madara can't fight Sasuke. The fight would be over in a flash. Sasuke would use Izanami which he copied using the Sharingan's copying abilities, and Madara would be trapped in Izanami world forever unless he somehow manages to redeem himself.

Then Sasuke would be without his eyes and the story would be broken.
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Old 2012-12-01, 08:54   Link #106
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Madara can't fight Sasuke. The fight would be over in a flash. Sasuke would use Izanami which he copied using the Sharingan's copying abilities, and Madara would be trapped in Izanami world forever unless he somehow manages to redeem himself.

Then Sasuke would be without his eyes and the story would be broken.
perhaps...but if sasukes plan is to revive his clan and restore the uchiha name, madara and obitos current plan interferes with that.
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Old 2012-12-01, 09:07   Link #107
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How could you possibly expect Madara to not know Izanami's secrets.
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Old 2012-12-01, 10:22   Link #108
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That sounds interesting. I was thinking about Obito testing Naruto, to prove that Naruto is no better than him. So inside the genjutsu he could have both Hinata and Sakura get killed before Naruto's eyes, to prove that Naruto will become like him eventually. Naruto already lost himself once when Pain apparently killed Hinata. I think that for Tobito not only winning is important but also to prove that he is right, and he was already shocked when he heard that Naruto has changed Nagato, so it's probable he would want to prove his dogma by breaking down Naruto. In this chapter he said that Naruto is very similar to his young self but eventually he'll turn out like him, so maybe he will want to prove it if both Kakashi and Naruto challenge his views of the world while they keep fighting. And if he can't break Naruto that could trigger his conversion to the good side and sacrficing himself to save the alliance from Madara.
Someone from the good guys should die in front of Naruto, not like Jiraya or Asuma x kilometers away, but right before his eyes.
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Old 2012-12-01, 11:53   Link #109
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perhaps...but if sasukes plan is to revive his clan and restore the uchiha name, madara and obitos current plan interferes with that.
That was when they were kids. As I understand it his plan at the moment is to kill everyone, nothing more. Being a wanted criminal doesn't exactly help when you're trying to "restore the Uchiha name".
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Old 2012-12-01, 16:37   Link #110
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So Naruto is gonna use a forbidden jutsu now? I looked it up and it seems that the Kazekiri no jutsu is declared a forbidden jutsu.
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Old 2012-12-01, 17:13   Link #111
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His clone jutsu is forbidden jutsu too.
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Old 2012-12-01, 17:41   Link #112
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So Naruto is gonna use a forbidden jutsu now? I looked it up and it seems that the Kazekiri no jutsu is declared a forbidden jutsu.
You read a bad translation. The kazekiri was used by the sand ninja's with the fans at the back, the jutsu Naruto calls out is the "shinobi alliance jutsu"
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Old 2012-12-01, 18:18   Link #113
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perhaps...but if sasukes plan is to revive his clan and restore the uchiha name, madara and obitos current plan interferes with that.
I'm not sure if Sasuke even gives a damn about the Uchiha clan or it's name any more. I hold him more likely to change his mind from destroying Konoha to destroying the whole world.
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Old 2012-12-02, 06:51   Link #114
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His clone jutsu is forbidden jutsu too.
Mass clones is. Regular clones isn't.

But yeah, his signature jutsu has been a forbidden jutsu since the very beginning.
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Old 2012-12-02, 11:11   Link #115
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I'm not sure if Sasuke even gives a damn about the Uchiha clan or it's name any more. I hold him more likely to change his mind from destroying Konoha to destroying the whole world.
The last time he appeared he said he wanted to know more about the Uchiha clan before making a move as he remembered Itachi's last words.
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Old 2012-12-02, 14:47   Link #116
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I only have a few questions that I would like someone to respond to:
1. Where the hell do you think Sasuke is?
2. There have been 2 Kazekiri no Jutsus mentioned, do you think this one is original?
3. How do you think the ten tails will be defeated? sealing?
On the last question, in my opinion they have to seal it because if you kill a tailed beats, it will regenerate since its made of pure chakra.
4. If sealed, inside who? multiple people? or one?
Please answer, I wanna hear your opinions!
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Old 2012-12-02, 15:10   Link #117
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I only have a few questions that I would like someone to respond to:
1. Where the hell do you think Sasuke is?
2. There have been 2 Kazekiri no Jutsus mentioned, do you think this one is original?
3. How do you think the ten tails will be defeated? sealing?
On the last question, in my opinion they have to seal it because if you kill a tailed beats, it will regenerate since its made of pure chakra.
4. If sealed, inside who? multiple people? or one?
Please answer, I wanna hear your opinions!
hmm, well these are pure speculation since there isn't much to go on yet, so here goes some shots in the dark:

1) i think orochimaru's scroll contained the secrets of the death god. so i think he and sasuke are going to unseal the hokages and part of orochimaru from his stomach and ask hashirama (the one who knows everything) what happened from his perspective. since the death god doesn't need to be summoned in any particular place i assume they are going to one of orochimaru's hideouts where he has some sort of room like the one in which bee trained naruto to use kyuubi mode. in a special type of room, orochimaru and sasuke might be able to control the death god or unseal him or whatever it is they will do. they also probably need bodies for the hokages to enter like in edo-tensei

2) nothing too special. just an advanced wind technique

3 & 4) since the beasts were all given individual personalities i think that naruto will split the juubi back up eventually. the beasts have shown that they are not just masses of pure hatred so i guess they can go live far away from people in their respective animal kingdoms (son goku living with the apes like enma for instance). in the meantime, someone like sasuke or madara may seal the juubi inside themselves, but naruto or hashirama will extract it

it's also possible for madara to seal it inside himself and then be sealed with the juubi inside the death god, but i dont see that happening since the bijuu were given personalities. it wouldn't sit well with naruto or the readers to have them suffer for eternity (which is also why i think the hokages will be released)
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Old 2012-12-02, 17:41   Link #118
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^lol I completely forgot that all of the tailed beasts are actually in there somewhere.
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Old 2012-12-05, 00:52   Link #119
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