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Iron Maw · 2012-12-19, 16:22

Looks like anyone who was hoping to see more videos may have to wait awhile since Jourdal's channel is gone.

There goes nearly all the videos in this thread. =/

hyl · 2012-12-19, 16:35

Jourdal has backup accounts though

Tong · 2012-12-19, 16:39

same videos as jourdals:
http://www.youtube.com/user/HardEdgeOfficial

Iron Maw · 2012-12-19, 16:48

Thanks guys, still WTF at Arc considering they're getting free publicly here.

Tokkan · 2012-12-19, 16:51

It was the music he had uploaded.

Backup channel: http://www.youtube.com/jourdal2012

hyl · 2012-12-19, 16:53

I think it was because of the rips of the new songs

Tokkan · 2012-12-19, 17:21

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Originally Posted by hyl

I think it was because of the rips of the new songs

It was definitely this. The rips he uploaded were showing up as the top "related videos" on ASW's own BBCP videos, no way they were unnoticed by ASW.

Tong · 2012-12-19, 19:49

Losing 5000 videos is still a bummer though...

Duo Maxwell · 2012-12-19, 20:40

There goes all of my video list...

Iron Maw · 2012-12-19, 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokkan

It was definitely this. The rips he uploaded were showing up as the top "related videos" on ASW's own BBCP videos, no way they were unnoticed by ASW.

Weren't they there for weeks? I wonder why bother now....

KleenexGhost · 2012-12-23, 00:02

I found this article interesting. Link to the actual article should be on the page.

http://shoryuken.com/2012/12/21/game...games-of-2012/

Westlo · 2012-12-23, 00:29

Personally agree that combos are getting to long, CS is a step in the right direction though...

Shadow5YA · 2012-12-23, 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westlo

Personally agree that combos are getting to long, CP is a step in the right direction though...

Fixed.

CS and all versions of it had combos just as long, or if not, the hitstun and hitstop was so large that it "slowed" down the combos, making them to appear longer than they actually are. The issue is present in CT as well.

As for the article, I'm not really sure I agree that's the trend. Sure, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Dead or Alive 5, and (Ultimate) Marvel vs Capcom 3 all have long combos, but there are also games with shorter combos like Street Fighter 4, Persona 4 Arena, and Soul Calibur V. I don't know why these games weren't mentioned at all. Is it the publicity?

Westlo · 2012-12-23, 01:42

Oh obviously meant CP but yeah.

And SFIV is like 4 years old and counting, MVC3 and SFxTK definitely went away from the shorter combos....

Asuras · 2012-12-23, 14:07

Even then, only a few Dead or Alive 5 characters can pull off long combos. Even then they're pretty difficult and rare.

As far as I've seen, only 2D fighters are notable for particularly long combos. Like CP.

Duo Maxwell · 2012-12-23, 20:19

They are trying to shorten the combo, though. And CP is nowhere near as long as those Skull Girls or UNIB.

Hakumen · 2012-12-23, 23:14

It's a shame since long combos are fun to execute. I feel like I'm in the zone whenever I manage to land one. Its not as fun when you're on the receiving end though...

Shadow5YA · 2012-12-24, 00:15

Long combos are fine, but like any fighting game there needs to be a balance between the neutral game (footsies, spacing, zoning, etc), the combo damage and execution, and the setplay (oki, mixups, etc).

When the combos are too long, you get Fate/Unlimited Codes and Under Night In-Birth, where the neutral game is just a single coin toss at the beginning of the match and whoever wins it rides the momentum all the way to the end with no point of return. If the majority of the game is just combo, 50/50 oki mixup reset into another combo, all the way to the end with no neutral game except at the beginning of the match, then it's not that far off from a broken fighting game with infinites.

Tong · 2012-12-24, 11:53

But that's exactly what Melty is lol
You would have to take in consideration the character's style too. A typical Rushdown vs Zoner matchup, ends up with either the later slowly losing, or the former quickly getting killed.

Shadow5YA · 2012-12-24, 18:05

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Originally Posted by Tong

But that's exactly what Melty is lol
You would have to take in consideration the character's style too. A typical Rushdown vs Zoner matchup, ends up with either the later slowly losing, or the former quickly getting killed.

Huh?

Melty has plenty of variety, and the combo length depends on the character. Characters like C/F Ryougi or H Nanaya have simple combos while C Arc and C Powerd Ciel, and C Satsuki have much lengthier combos that require a lot of execution.

It's nothing like UNIB where you have Hyde and Seth who have everything from fast normals and up to 7k+ damage combos that generate the meter to use their 200% Viel Off ultimate to having fuzzies and unblockable setups that work in every situation. They fixed the infinites in that game, but for those characters it doesn't feel any different at all.

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Iron Maw Rage Incarnate Join Date: Feb 2006	Looks like anyone who was hoping to see more videos may have to wait awhile since Jourdal's channel is gone. There goes nearly all the videos in this thread. =/

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hyl Saga Planets fan Join Date: Feb 2009	Jourdal has backup accounts though

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Iron Maw Rage Incarnate Join Date: Feb 2006	Thanks guys, still WTF at Arc considering they're getting free publicly here.

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hyl Saga Planets fan Join Date: Feb 2009	I think it was because of the rips of the new songs

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Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne Age: 29	Personally agree that combos are getting to long, CS is a step in the right direction though...

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Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne Age: 29	Oh obviously meant CP but yeah. And SFIV is like 4 years old and counting, MVC3 and SFxTK definitely went away from the shorter combos....

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Asuras Dictadere~! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: On the front lines, fighting for inderpendence.	Even then, only a few Dead or Alive 5 characters can pull off long combos. Even then they're pretty difficult and rare. As far as I've seen, only 2D fighters are notable for particularly long combos. Like CP.

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Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Long combos are fine, but like any fighting game there needs to be a balance between the neutral game (footsies, spacing, zoning, etc), the combo damage and execution, and the setplay (oki, mixups, etc). When the combos are too long, you get Fate/Unlimited Codes and Under Night In-Birth, where the neutral game is just a single coin toss at the beginning of the match and whoever wins it rides the momentum all the way to the end with no point of return. If the majority of the game is just combo, 50/50 oki mixup reset into another combo, all the way to the end with no neutral game except at the beginning of the match, then it's not that far off from a broken fighting game with infinites.

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Tong . . . Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: 2014 World cup hoster Age: 21	But that's exactly what Melty is lol You would have to take in consideration the character's style too. A typical Rushdown vs Zoner matchup, ends up with either the later slowly losing, or the former quickly getting killed. __________________ My gallery...