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Old 2012-12-21, 18:38   Link #901
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I've read that tier 4 is the major first grind, and I chose the worst tank, T-50, in the U.S.S.R. tree.
All the upgrades combine for 18100 experience, but to unlock T-50-2 62500 exp is required. The VK2801 in the German tree requires 52100, 10400 experience less. Did they scale it wrong?
You actually have to consider all the experience leading up to Tier 4. That being said, I know I did not research all the modules for my Tier 4 and went straight to the upgrade required for my Tier 5. Now, a T-50 is absolutely better than a 38na due to the matchmaking process. In a 38na, you will consistently fight against Tier 9 enemies. If you really want to feel absolutely worthless, try the 38na

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Old 2012-12-21, 19:27   Link #902
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T-50, VK1602, and M5 are considered "scouts," and have different exp requirements, as well as matchmaking. I highly recommend not going down the T-50, VK1602 lines as your first tree.
The matchmaking is a bit crazy, I noticed how I sometimes got matches up to tier 9, when my 57mm cannon could barely damage tier 6 tanks. Thanks for the advice.

I'll probably go the KV-1 line, it offers quite a few options as it goes down, first to IS-7. From what I read, accuracy and aiming time seems to be rather long, Rammer and Vertical Stabilizer are a must I guess?
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Old 2012-12-21, 19:44   Link #903
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I'll probably go the KV-1 line, it offers quite a few options as it goes down, first to IS-7. From what I read, accuracy and aiming time seems to be rather long, Rammer and Vertical Stabilizer are a must I guess?
Russian tanks are known for bad accuracy and longer reloading time, but they do have the firepower to compensate whatever shortcomings they suffer. That being said, I'd go with a vent over stabilizer first, with the third accessory being something of a free-for-all.

Playing the KV-1 is going to be very different from everything you experienced so far. For starters, the tank is notoriously sluggish... so bad I cringed at one point

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Old 2012-12-21, 19:55   Link #904
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Russian tanks are known for bad accuracy and longer reloading time, but they do have the firepower to compensate whatever shortcomings they suffer. That being said, I'd go with a vent over stabilizer first, with the third accessory being something of a free-for-all.

Playing the KV-1 is going to be very different from everything you experienced so far. For starters, the tank is notoriously sluggish... so bad I cringed at one point

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I'm playing on EU server.

I usually play T-50 and race through the map with 60 km/h, but I'm also used to the Hetzer with its 30 km/h.
The stock Hetzer was like 10 km/h, how is the stock KV-1?
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Old 2012-12-21, 19:58   Link #905
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I'm playing on EU server.

I usually play T-50 and race through the map with 60 km/h, but I'm also used to the Hetzer with its 30 km/h.
The stock Hetzer was like 10 km/h, how is the stock KV-1?
The top speed doesn't change, its the acceleration. Of course, depending on the terrain, speed could differ if you have a weaker engine. The KV-1 on stock is pretty bad. Once you upgrade your engine, there will be a noted improvement, but its not a significant change. There was a time when I had my KV-1 climb uphills, I almost had the urge to go through the screen just to help pushing it

But, the KV-1 is a heavy hitter, right in the front to brawl with others at close range and absorb ridiculous damages from anything V & below. Just don't think you can take it to face Tier 6 & above though.

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Old 2012-12-21, 20:38   Link #906
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The matchmaking is a bit crazy, I noticed how I sometimes got matches up to tier 9, when my 57mm cannon could barely damage tier 6 tanks. Thanks for the advice.

I'll probably go the KV-1 line, it offers quite a few options as it goes down, first to IS-7. From what I read, accuracy and aiming time seems to be rather long, Rammer and Vertical Stabilizer are a must I guess?

T-50 is a "scout" therefore your primary purpose is to provide eyes for your team. Light the enemy up, STAY ALIVE, and you don't need to use your gun. You get half of the experience and money of all the damage caused by allies against enemies you keep spotted.
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Old 2012-12-21, 20:40   Link #907
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T-50 is a "scout" therefore your primary purpose is to provide eyes for your team. Light the enemy up, STAY ALIVE, and you don't need to use your gun. You get half of the experience and money of all the damage caused by allies against enemies you keep spotted.
Yeah, my advice for T4 "scouts" that I wish someone had told me previously.. is if you have one already or have extra cash lying around, get a telescope. Find a good camo location near the middle of the map and enjoy the "spot" XP..
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Old 2012-12-21, 20:50   Link #908
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Don't forget the camo net as well!
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Old 2012-12-21, 21:38   Link #909
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T-50 is a "scout" therefore your primary purpose is to provide eyes for your team. Light the enemy up, STAY ALIVE, and you don't need to use your gun. You get half of the experience and money of all the damage caused by allies against enemies you keep spotted.
That's what I do, but sometimes I find isolated enemy tanks, no friendlies nearby, and circle around to stay clear of shots while shooting myself. It's just frustrating to hear 'We just ding'd them' and 'It didn't penetrate their armour' while wasting ten or more shots.
Unless they're SPG or TD (from the back), T-50 simply lacks the ability to deal any (significant) damage to other tanks tier 6 or higher.
Though at least it annoys the other player.
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Old 2012-12-21, 21:42   Link #910
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Yes, that's annoying. But remember you need to aim even in the rear. Almost every tank (not German ones) at tier 10 is still vulnerable when you're directly lined up in the rear. The Americans have only 38mm on the back, and the French have like 30mm.
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Old 2012-12-21, 22:06   Link #911
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I hit another one!!

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Old 2012-12-21, 22:50   Link #912
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I got my King Tiger! Haven't played it yet because it's stock and I don't have enough cash to get the necessary engine. I hope it is good.
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Old 2012-12-21, 22:54   Link #913
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It is good! It is very very agile, in fact, more so than the Tiger and at about the same speed. I am pleasantly surprised!!

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Old 2012-12-22, 02:06   Link #914
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I dunno, nothing beats the match we had earlier, where we had a KV-5 that was camping on the lower left hand corner of Erlenberg for the WHOLE match, was the only tank left on our side... then managed to take out all seven of the remaining tanks on the enemy side and secure us a win. o_o
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Old 2012-12-22, 02:08   Link #915
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I dunno, nothing beats the match we had earlier, where we had a KV-5 that was camping on the lower left hand corner of Erlenberg for the WHOLE match, was the only tank left on our side... then managed to take out all seven of the remaining tanks on the enemy side and secure us a win. o_o
You know, that EXACT thing happened to me, except I was on the enemy team and THEIR KV5 killed all of the rest of us.
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Old 2012-12-22, 02:19   Link #916
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You know, that EXACT thing happened to me, except I was on the enemy team and THEIR KV5 killed all of the rest of us.
Haha, I still have a screenshot of the match. Doesn't look like you were on the enemy team though!
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Old 2012-12-22, 02:28   Link #917
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Haha, I still have a screenshot of the match. Doesn't look like you were on the enemy team though!
It was on a now-deleted map (Swamps) and happened over a year ago.
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Old 2012-12-22, 02:34   Link #918
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Some of you here have seen me demonstrate the "sidescraper" armour angling technique before. Have a look at this.

Churchill LL at Fisherman's Bay.

Fast forward to when the clock ticks down to 13:50 or so, and see for yourself the true potential of the "sidescrape" maneuver.
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Old 2012-12-22, 02:38   Link #919
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Sigh. I spent most of the night on teams with heavies that refused to take the initiative, meaning that those of us in mediums would end up dead on the front lines while they grouped up in a corner and thought about their lives.
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Old 2012-12-22, 10:51   Link #920
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So got myself a VK 3001 DB now... Kind of not used to the change in gameplay that one has to undergo while using it though. Honestly, I'm not very comfortable with coming in close to higher-tier tanks, ESPECIALLY since my connection is lag prone, and I've experienced one-too-many lag spikes as I try to outflank an enemy.
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