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Old 2012-12-24, 02:35   Link #221
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Gogeta gets my vote, and Bils strikes me as someone who could totally resist a Spirt Bomb. I say Gogeta, so we can see a STARDUST BIG BANG KAMEHAMEHA!!!

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Totally agree. I'm eager to see Gogeta in action again. What I love about him is that he doesn't mess around at all. He cuts straight to the chase and dispatches the enemy as quickly as possible.

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Is height that important right now?
It's just such a glaring mistake, know what I mean? Because not only is Gohan shorter than Goku, he's noticeably shorter for that matter. Toei shouldn't mess up on simple things like this. Hopefully, this error only extends as far as that promotional pic and not into the movie itself. Admittedly, this isn't the most important thing right now, but I just wanted to point it out as an observation.
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Old 2012-12-24, 03:18   Link #222
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Totally agree. I'm eager to see Gogeta in action again. What I love about him is that he doesn't mess around at all. He cuts straight to the chase and dispatches the enemy as quickly as possible.
Well, that's partially true. SSJ Gogeta was serious fighter and did not screw around, however, in his SSJ4 form he would constantly screw around.
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Old 2012-12-24, 03:33   Link #223
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Well, that's partially true. SSJ Gogeta was serious fighter and did not screw around, however, in his SSJ4 form he would constantly screw around.
But this is a Z movie, not a GT one. So SSJ4 Gogeta is a non-factor here.
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Old 2012-12-24, 23:50   Link #224
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^Either that or another Genki Dama end. Let's hope it's not the latter. It's been overused in the films and is quite frankly lame.
It's actually only been used in movies 2, 3, 4, and 7, and it was used as more of a power-up in 7 than an actual attack. Still hope against it, since I find it anti-climatic.

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Now I'm confused. The trailer showed post-Mystic Gohan with the closed eyes design, but this latest image shows pre-Mystic Gohan, presumably the version we see turning SSJ.
He also looks like "High School" Gohan moreso than the strong fighter he was by the time he faced Buu (and even when they competed in the Tournament).
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Old 2012-12-25, 21:57   Link #225
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Is height that important right now?
They're over reacting, look closely and you'll see goku is in in the back behind goten and gohan. of course he'll look slightly taller.
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Old 2012-12-26, 11:02   Link #226
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Actually, perspective would indicate that the further away something is, the smaller it should look. However, we cannot see their feet, so we do not know if they were drawn at an angle that would have Gohan seated "lower" on the pane, essentially giving us a slightly overhead view.
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Old 2012-12-26, 18:28   Link #227
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There doesn't appear to be any angle nor overhead perspective in the pic, so either Goku is standing at a higher elevation or they simply made a mistake. The latter seems to be the case.
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Old 2012-12-26, 18:56   Link #228
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I didn't think people would seriously be discussing this. My take:

They very well could be positioned at varying elevated levels as you suggested--especially since these guys can fly and stand on nothing but air. The fact that we can't see the lower half of this pic means its almost pointless to get disappointed over the supposed discrepancy regarding Gohans height in relation to Goku. Also, for the sake of the promo pic, it's likely that the person who illustrated this wanted Goku positioned slightly higher than everyone else to emphasize his role as main protagonist and father/leader of those two.

Either way, its too early to call it a retcon, contradiction, mistake, or whatever else comes to mind based on that picture alone.
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Old 2012-12-26, 19:04   Link #229
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Here's a good example of what the heights should be like:

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1...n_1__super.jpg
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Old 2012-12-31, 11:23   Link #230
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I've seen that image of Goten in lots of magazines. If you pay attention he looks out place considering the colors.
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Old 2013-01-01, 04:31   Link #231
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I've seen that image of Goten in lots of magazines. If you pay attention he looks out place considering the colors.
Sad but true...
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Old 2013-01-01, 12:25   Link #232
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So, there's the promotional material out now that's claiming Bils is the strongest/most powerful being ever seen in DBZ. But, I'm wondering how we're supposed to tell. Just trashing SSJ3 Goku won't be enough; Janemba did that too. No, the only way is going to be if SSJ Gogeta isn't strong enough to stop him, thus forcing SSJ3 Gogeta!

Though I suppose just making Gogeta struggle a bit would show more power than Janemba did, but still!
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Old 2013-01-01, 13:42   Link #233
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Well the most powerful being we've ever seen in the DBZ canon was super Vegito. So it'll be pretty damn impressive if this guy can top that kind of power. Therefore, I'd agree in that the only force I could possibly imagine being enough to stop the big bad (if this is the case) would be a SSJ2 or SSJ3 Gogeta. And if all else fails, maybe they could borrow a page from movie 7 and have SSJ3 Gogeta absorb a super spirit bomb?

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Old 2013-01-01, 14:53   Link #234
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I would like if they actually tried using more their brains rather getting even more power ups.

In the Hildegan movie and the Plan to Eliminate the Saiyans, Goku and company came up with tactics to defeat the villains. They were ridiculous but kind of made sense.

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Old 2013-01-01, 17:27   Link #235
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Old 2013-01-01, 22:28   Link #236
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Old 2013-01-02, 04:53   Link #238
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I pay no mind to canon, strongest Z villain to me was Janemba.

Anyway, as I've mentioned before I'm calling Gogeta (SS3 or not), to be the trump card Goku uses against Bills.

Or maybe they'll pull an 180 and have him be too strong for Goku to beat.
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Old 2013-01-02, 06:55   Link #239
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On the subject of Gogeta, will Vegeta even agree to the fusion ? IIRC, he hates the fusion dance.
In GT and in Fusion Reborn, he found it embarrassing and unfit for a warrior, of course he hesitantly still did it . However, the movie and GT are both non canon.
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Old 2013-01-02, 06:56   Link #240
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I pay no mind to canon, strongest Z villain to me was Janemba.
Interesting. What did he do that makes him seem so superior to Super Buu to you? Because while both clearly overpower SSJ3 Goku, both were easily outclassed by a Goku+Vegeta fusion. And in Buu's defense, he did have to take on the stronger of the two fusions (since Kai earrings > fusion dance).
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