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Randrak42 · 2012-12-30, 05:51

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Originally Posted by Waven

Only you would go back at it after a Chitoge focused chapter

It pains me to say it, but yea...he's fighting a losing war.

But let the guy dream, I do it too.

bakAnki · 2012-12-30, 05:59

Chitogeeeewwwww <3

The author sure love making 4-koma extra with Raku & Onodera pair

Okarin · 2012-12-30, 06:24

Dear me, I actually had to turn the page back to see what Chitoge's ribbon originally looked like. Looks like I'm all set to be a harem MC

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-12-30, 08:22

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Originally Posted by Randrak42

It pains me to say it, but yea...he's fighting a losing war.

But let the guy dream, I do it too.

tell that to everyone who basically pegged naruto as naru-saku until the last chapter

Kanon · 2012-12-30, 08:44

Chitoge has gotten so much cuter ever since she went dere dere. If only Raku wasn't so dense.

Randrak42 · 2012-12-30, 08:52

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

tell that to everyone who basically pegged naruto as naru-saku until the last chapter

Naruto = Not a cliche ridden Rom/Com harem manga.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-12-30, 08:58

heh we'll see I just think despite the chitoge chapters he shows way more for onodera the whole time the fact that they did a tsugumi chapter says there is no choice yet

Randrak42 · 2012-12-30, 09:30

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

heh we'll see I just think despite the chitoge chapters he shows way more for onodera the whole time the fact that they did a tsugumi chapter says there is no choice yet

Not really...fact of the matter is Chitoge is still the main female lead of the series. The author throws in Onodera, Mari and Tsugumi chapters to both prolong the story and to give a bit of fanservice to their fans...but Chitoge has never really left the spotlight for more than a chapter or two.

ShiroiRyu · 2012-12-30, 11:17

Oh man this chapter ...
This end; XD

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-12-30, 11:22

You don't hear me disagreeing that chitoge is the lead character but if I were to put the relationship between onodera chitoge and raku its kinda like To Love Ru. Onodera and Haruna are the original crushes Chitoge and Lala are the girls the Male MC is forced into being in a relationship with. and the fact is the only way that they can decide who the actual relationship is with is if its revealed that chitoge and raku are in a fake relationship and then something with that
EDIT: forgot that only Onodera knows the truth and tsugumi but she wont reveal anything the question is when the whole gang learns the truth what happens next

Randrak42 · 2012-12-30, 12:41

Well you use TLR as a reference but you're using a series that hasn't got an ending yet...

Tsugumi doesn't know the relationship is fake if I remember correctly, neither does Mari. I think the only ones that know the truth are Raku's guy friend, Onodera and her friend.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-12-30, 15:01

that makes no sense Tsugumi was sent by claude to watch over Raku to make sure he stays with chitoge. Raku's guy friend doesn't know either idk if onodera's friend knows but

Randrak42 · 2012-12-30, 15:53

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

that makes no sense Tsugumi was sent by claude to watch over Raku to make sure he stays with chitoge. Raku's guy friend doesn't know either idk if onodera's friend knows but

Claude doesn't even know the relationship is fake (he suspects it but has yet to gain any proof), if he would have already killed Raku. In the beginning sent Tsugumi to watch over Chitoge and KILL Raku but failed so she stuck around to watch their relationship. There was even a somewhat recent chapter where Tsugumi tried using a lie detector to see if their relationship was real or not.

I'm not sure about Onodera's friend either, but I think she was present when Onodera found out (I really am not sure about this).

Raku's friend knows...he's just a troll.

Diveman · 2012-12-30, 15:57

Onodera's friend I think she knew all along. She's very perceptive to pretty much everything.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-12-30, 17:47

I agree Chitoge's the lead female character but tell me have u really seen any moments from Raku that tells you he would choose Chitoge over Onodera the answer right now is no. His feelings are still heavy onodera and the only reason he spends time with chitoge is because of the threat of the war

Randrak42 · 2012-12-30, 18:06

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

I agree Chitoge's the lead female character but tell me have u really seen any moments from Raku that tells you he would choose Chitoge over Onodera the answer right now is no. His feelings are still heavy onodera and the only reason he spends time with chitoge is because of the threat of the war

Wow...you have one heavy case of denial (or actual blindness) if you keep missing how the author is heavily pushing Chitoge into the spotlight in most of the manga, especially the major events. The author himself setting everything up so that Chitoge gets the most exposure and development in most events she's involved in. Even in some events where she plays a minor role, she gets frames all for herself and sticks around longer. Take Raku's first date with Mari, this was a Mari centered event and while the other girls stalked them, ultimately it was Chitoge that stuck around till the end of the event while the other girls were left behind through comic gags. A recent event was during Mari's studying session where Raku went with Chitoge...the author could have easily added Onodera and others if he wanted as well.
Then there's moments where Chitoge quickly replaces Onodera once she inches toward the spotlight, like during the play where Onodera just happened to get hurt and Mari just magically happened to be sick on that particular day so Chitoge had to replace her or during the test of courage where Raku left the chance to go with Onodera so he could find and bring Chitoge back.

Of course Raku still has a crush on Onodera, that much is evident...but what is also very evident is that Raku is steadily falling for Chitoge without even realizing it, and it's pretty far gone as well.

Don't get me wrong, I am in no way a Chitoge supporter, I actually cheer for the girl with the least chance of winning in the end (Mari) and have always found Chitoge's character less appealing than any of the other girls (my general disdain for Tsundere types doesn't help). But it is clear who the author pushes for in terms of a final girl (hell, even the one-shot has her winning clearly), which in turn is something that greatly annoys me in this manga. I loved the previous Tsugumi event where Chitoge barely even appeared, but these moments are few and far between.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-12-30, 18:25

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Originally Posted by Randrak42

Wow...you have one heavy case of denial (or actual blindness) if you keep missing how the author is heavily pushing Chitoge into the spotlight in most of the manga, especially the major events. The author himself setting everything up so that Chitoge gets the most exposure and development in most events she's involved in. Even in some events where she plays a minor role, she gets frames all for herself and sticks around longer. Take Raku's first date with Mari, this was a Mari centered event and while the other girls stalked them, ultimately it was Chitoge that stuck around till the end of the event while the other girls were left behind through comic gags. A recent event was during Mari's studying session where Raku went with Chitoge...the author could have easily added Onodera and others if he wanted as well.
Then there's moments where Chitoge quickly replaces Onodera once she inches toward the spotlight, like during the play where Onodera just happened to get hurt and Mari just magically happened to be sick on that particular day so Chitoge had to replace her or during the test of courage where Raku left the chance to go with Onodera so he could find and bring Chitoge back.

Of course Raku still has a crush on Onodera, that much is evident...but what is also very evident is that Raku is steadily falling for Chitoge without even realizing it, and it's pretty far gone as well.

Don't get me wrong, I am in no way a Chitoge supporter, I actually cheer for the girl with the least chance of winning in the end (Mari) and have always found Chitoge's character less appealing than any of the other girls (my general disdain for Tsundere types doesn't help). But it is clear who the author pushes for in terms of a final girl (hell, even the one-shot has her winning clearly), which in turn is something that greatly annoys me in this manga. I loved the previous Tsugumi event where Chitoge barely even appeared, but these moments are few and far between.

Whats funny is that I agree that their pushing chitoge but onodera is the one who right now raku appears to like

Randrak42 · 2012-12-30, 18:32

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Whats funny is that I agree that their pushing chitoge but onodera is the one who right now raku appears to like

Which in no way means she'll be the final girl. Chitoge is being pushed by the author...the one controlling the outcome of the story (mostly).

Waven · 2012-12-30, 18:52

What the protagonist wants right now doesn't mean jack. Quite the contrary, the fact that he already liked Onodera but was then forced into a fake relationship with Chitoge is all experienced readers of the genre need to know.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-12-30, 19:07

true we'll see what happens and leave it at that

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Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 26	Chitoge has gotten so much cuter ever since she went dere dere. If only Raku wasn't so dense. __________________

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ImperialFlameGod8190 The Supreme General Join Date: Mar 2012	You don't hear me disagreeing that chitoge is the lead character but if I were to put the relationship between onodera chitoge and raku its kinda like To Love Ru. Onodera and Haruna are the original crushes Chitoge and Lala are the girls the Male MC is forced into being in a relationship with. and the fact is the only way that they can decide who the actual relationship is with is if its revealed that chitoge and raku are in a fake relationship and then something with that EDIT: forgot that only Onodera knows the truth and tsugumi but she wont reveal anything the question is when the whole gang learns the truth what happens next Last edited by ImperialFlameGod8190; 2012-12-30 at 11:46.

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Okarin Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012	Dear me, I actually had to turn the page back to see what Chitoge's ribbon originally looked like. Looks like I'm all set to be a harem MC

2012-12-30, 08:58	Link #1127
ImperialFlameGod8190 The Supreme General Join Date: Mar 2012	heh we'll see I just think despite the chitoge chapters he shows way more for onodera the whole time the fact that they did a tsugumi chapter says there is no choice yet

2012-12-30, 12:41	Link #1131
Randrak42 Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	Well you use TLR as a reference but you're using a series that hasn't got an ending yet... Tsugumi doesn't know the relationship is fake if I remember correctly, neither does Mari. I think the only ones that know the truth are Raku's guy friend, Onodera and her friend.

2012-12-30, 15:01	Link #1132
ImperialFlameGod8190 The Supreme General Join Date: Mar 2012	that makes no sense Tsugumi was sent by claude to watch over Raku to make sure he stays with chitoge. Raku's guy friend doesn't know either idk if onodera's friend knows but

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Diveman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	Onodera's friend I think she knew all along. She's very perceptive to pretty much everything.

2012-12-30, 17:47	Link #1135
ImperialFlameGod8190 The Supreme General Join Date: Mar 2012	I agree Chitoge's the lead female character but tell me have u really seen any moments from Raku that tells you he would choose Chitoge over Onodera the answer right now is no. His feelings are still heavy onodera and the only reason he spends time with chitoge is because of the threat of the war

2012-12-30, 18:52	Link #1139
Waven Itadaki-nyaaa !! Join Date: Apr 2008	What the protagonist wants right now doesn't mean jack. Quite the contrary, the fact that he already liked Onodera but was then forced into a fake relationship with Chitoge is all experienced readers of the genre need to know.

2012-12-30, 19:07	Link #1140
ImperialFlameGod8190 The Supreme General Join Date: Mar 2012	true we'll see what happens and leave it at that