Nekomonogatari Black - 2-Hour Special Discussion / Poll

[monir]

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[Malkuth]

I am watching it now... too much Tsukihi for now

[romcom89]

The Thing with Araragi and Tsukihis

Spoiler for lol:

Oppais

was hilarious

[Malkuth]

Thank god, I heard my alarm clock

Spoiler for synopsis with minimal spoilers:

disappointing MegRock/Hocchan ballad -> 15 minutes Tsukihi -> Karen's bouncing tiny (by anime standards) tits -> ad-break -> Tsubasa balck panties finally appear -> back to fanservice home after 15 minutes of Tsubasa and ads (half hour mark) -> Shinobu time (5 minutes) -> Meme exposition (10 minutes) -> Neko Tsubasa appeared after 45 minutes for 2 -> back for more Oshino eposition -> short reappearance of black hanekawa (1-hour mark) -> back to Koyomi estate for more brocon service and exposition from the phoenix this time -> back to Meme for more exposition -> Balck Hanekawa returns after 10 minutes of non-stop info-dump for a better insight into Tsubasa and her circumstances -> I forgot how much Koyomi depended on Meme (third time back for advise... 90 minute mark) -> and into the final confrontation (which was superb... only Kizu- can best those 15 minutes) -> 15 minute wrap-up -> ED was better, but nowhere near the songs from the two TV series

note: All times include ads

+

• the final confrontation... way better than the sort version in Bakemonogatari/Shita
• very little reused animation from Bake/Nise-
• direction and art had some brilliant moments
• fewer heroines help a lot more than one can imagine
• Tsubasa
• ... and her selection of underwear (considering her age and nationality) Makes me wonder if her "family" is using her in more sketchy ways

-

• Kizu- had to be available before this (as well as Nise-), but in this case it is more significant
• animation and art had some issues
• music (both songs and BGM)
• too much of Koyomi inner thoughts
• too many ad-breaks ruined the mood
• story telling doesn't flow as smoothly as it did in Bake- and Nise- (too many times inner thoughts were vocalized instead of animated)... some might find this less confusing, but not me

that's it from me... Happy New Year... I'm off to Meiji Jingu

[romcom89]

At the End, was there written "Second Season" Fall? 2013

[GenjiChan]

I'll wait for two days to get this on full sub... GOD..

[Malkuth]

Zenmonogatari in '13... not sure about the fall part, but it would make sense

Also endcard with Tsubasa wishing a happy new year

[romcom89]

There was a kanji behin 2013, if it was the kanji for year or for fall, i dont know, but zenmono 2013 is nice to hear

[Daniel Lind]

This... was honestly amazing. I didn't expect the whole story to be so much more intricate and emotional, this is easily a return to form after lackluster Nisemonogatari.

Also, http://www.monogatari-series.com/2ndseason/

[romcom89]

Ah okay, so 2013

[Kanon]

OP

[omimon]

Favorite part of the OVA was definitely:
-Tsukihi boob grab
-Karen nakedness
-Tsukihi panties
-Black Hanekawa's eyes when she goes full Kaii
-Sephiroth
-Zenmonogatari 2013

[Daniel Lind]

Favorite part of the OVA was definitely:

This was more like a movie.

[omimon]

Originally Posted by Daniel Lind

This was more like a movie.

I thought of calling it that too but all those CMs man.

[sirn]

The CM is probably because of the "A-Part → CM → B-Part → CM → ED → CM → Preview" regular organization. So you got one 10 seconds part (supposed to be "Next Episode Preview"), then followed 2-3 minutes CM.

CM issues aside, I love the show. It is a lot better than I expected.

(Although I wish there was Kizu's PV instead of Zenmonogatari. Sigh.)

[Malkuth]

F*ck Meiji Jingu... comiket was too tiring today

Originally Posted by romcom89

There was a kanji behin 2013, if it was the kanji for year or for fall, i dont know, but zenmono 2013 is nice to hear

I rewatched the PV online... the word after 2013 (開幕) means premier/opening... not autumn (秋)

[omimon]

Also seeing that Hanekawa is usually the one that gets the most "criticism" amongst the fanbase hopefully this special will increase the love for her. (It seems at least the fellows at /a/ has a better view of her now)

[Daniel Lind]

Also seeing that Hanekawa is usually the one that gets the most "criticism" amongst the fanbase hopefully this special will increase the love for her. (It seems at least the fellows at /a/ has a better view of her now)

It changed the way I see her, but I can't say that it was only to better.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by omimon

Also seeing that Hanekawa is usually the one that gets the most "criticism" amongst the fanbase hopefully this special will increase the love for her. (It seems at least the fellows at /a/ has a better view of her now)

Originally Posted by Daniel Lind

It changed the way I see her, but I can't say that it was only to better.

That's why I have been saying since Nise- flames, that Kizu- knowledge is necessary to avoid all that nonsense from non-novel readers

[omimon]

I must be missing something here but why is the poll closed again?