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Old 2013-01-03, 17:19   Link #3061
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So in the end Gabriel is just another cartoonish villain just like Sugou. I knew it, that's all Kawahara's got. As expected, Mother Rosario is the best thing he will ever write. That was his pick. Now we can only go down. lol

Thanks a lot for the summary. I'm looking forward to Asuna's encounter with Kirito.
I dunno, Gabriel's at least more competent than Sugou. He doesn't have to borrow other people's work to be able to kick ass and be a villain at least.
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Old 2013-01-03, 17:21   Link #3062
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Gabriel's at least more competent than Sugou.
It's not a matter of competence.
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Old 2013-01-03, 17:23   Link #3063
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It's not a matter of competence.
Then what is the matter? What do you mean by 'cartoonish'?
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Old 2013-01-03, 17:26   Link #3064
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Gabriel is like mix between 3 previous villain. Death Gun gaming skill with Kayaba end motive and Sugou evilness.
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Old 2013-01-03, 17:31   Link #3065
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Gabriel is like mix between 3 previous villain. Death Gun gaming skill with Kayaba end motive and Sugou evilness.
... Huh, I had never thought of it that way. Sounds quite close, if not as petty as Sugou.
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Old 2013-01-03, 17:45   Link #3066
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Then what is the matter? What do you mean by 'cartoonish'?
A non-character that is evil just for the sake of drama. What makes Gabriel tick? Why is he the way he is? Developing a character is more than showing how he is. You also gotta explain "why".

The protagonists get to have characterization (to some extent). I know why Asuna is the way she is, I even know why Kirito is the way he is (to a leaser extent, since he's less developed than Asuna). Villains need development too. It's not enough to know they're evil. That's just lazy writing.
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Old 2013-01-03, 17:51   Link #3067
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A non-character that is evil just for the sake of drama. What makes Gabriel tick? Why is he the way he is? Developing a character is more than showing how he is. You also gotta explain "why".
That's probably my fault I skipped a lot of details back in WEB 6 summary, it was dedicated to his background. Roughly a whole LN worth of text to do so.
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Old 2013-01-03, 18:03   Link #3068
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That's probably my fault I skipped a lot of details back in WEB 6 summary, it was dedicated to his background. Roughly a whole LN worth of text to do so.
Then I'll reserve judgment until we know more about him. Thanks again for the summary.
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Old 2013-01-03, 18:35   Link #3069
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Where can i read previous chapters or summary of web novel?
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Old 2013-01-03, 19:08   Link #3070
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Where can i read previous chapters or summary of web novel?
They're in this thread, the last 20 page or so includes the Alicization WEB stuff. WEB 6 summary is here, as brief as it is:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=2667

Oh, and here's another summary for the 2nd half of WEB8 Pt25 (at least it's labelled as this):
Spoiler for ”Part 25 2nd half”:
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Old 2013-01-03, 19:19   Link #3071
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That's probably my fault I skipped a lot of details back in WEB 6 summary, it was dedicated to his background. Roughly a whole LN worth of text to do so.
Lol that's what happens when people rely too much on summaries
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That's probably my fault I skipped a lot of details back in WEB 6 summary, it was dedicated to his background. Roughly a whole LN worth of text to do so.
but is there any reason for his behavior other than for evulz?

like all his squadmates is killed in a war and make him insane or something like that
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Old 2013-01-03, 19:33   Link #3073
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but is there any reason for his behavior other than for evulz?

like all his squadmates is killed in a war and make him insane or something like that
or born Evil, ie Ted Bundy who from Kazu pov is a cartoon villain.
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Old 2013-01-04, 03:15   Link #3074
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Nowadays it seems everyone wants the moral gray anti-hero that will cause one to bend over to analyze their motivations. :P

Anyways, Alicization reads like a fantasy shonen now lawl. Ok that statement probably came out because I was reading Maoyuu Maou Yuusha lawlz.
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Old 2013-01-04, 08:22   Link #3075
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Ok question was the alice arc finished on the novel web version?
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Old 2013-01-04, 08:28   Link #3076
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Ok question was the alice arc finished on the novel web version?
Yes, but i think there is hint of continuation
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Old 2013-01-04, 15:21   Link #3077
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Can someone tell me what ended up happening to Gabriel? I have to know cause I hate him so much. I hope its painful like what happened to Sugou.
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Old 2013-01-04, 15:36   Link #3078
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but is there any reason for his behavior other than for evulz?

like all his squadmates is killed in a war and make him insane or something like that
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or born Evil, ie Ted Bundy who from Kazu pov is a cartoon villain.
Gabriel's 'born evil'. Think of him as someone like Kotomine Kirei, born with a 'defect', but doesn't feel conflicted for being who he is. And he was smart enough to know society wouldn't accept him for who he is, so he hid that away when interacting with others.
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Can someone tell me what ended up happening to Gabriel? I have to know cause I hate him so much. I hope its painful like what happened to Sugou.
That part isn't translated yet, so I don't know for sure. From translator comments I think:
Spoiler for not quite sure if this is the case:
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Old 2013-01-04, 15:46   Link #3079
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Gabriel's 'born evil'. Think of him as someone like Kotomine Kirei, born with a 'defect', but doesn't feel conflicted for being who he is. And he was smart enough to know society wouldn't accept him for who he is, so he hid that away when interacting with others.

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a Sociopath who also became a psychopath,
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Old 2013-01-04, 19:01   Link #3080
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This is just my opinion.

Spoiler for Kirito's handicap:


What's the purpose of dual-wielding skill anyway? For coolness' sake?
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