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Kyero Fox · 2013-01-06, 18:24

Their jabbing at how Pissy people are about his hair.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-06, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Their jabbing at how Pissy people are about his hair.

Somehow I don't think this would be as "well received" as Blizzard's sunshine, rainbows and unicorns....

kenjiharima · 2013-01-06, 18:42

Meh it's not just about the hair anymore, shows you how just immature people now are in the gaming industry.

Anyone want to see the vid here. It's NSFW since there is a scene here Nu Dante gets drunk and sleeps with 2 girls in the end there the wig. Very not like the original Dante.

http://www.3djuegos.com/juegos/video...novedades/dmc/

Now that is the vid they cannot take down. Si? Siiiiiii LOL

Shadow5YA · 2013-01-06, 18:50

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Their jabbing at how Pissy people are about his hair.

You (and Ninja Theory) are missing the point if you really think it's just about the hair.

DingoEnderZOE2 · 2013-01-06, 19:24

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Hahaha that is awesome, anyone who gets mad is just raging. That is priceless.

C'mon now If scene is legit that's just an obvious and UNNECESSARY cheap shot at the original Devil May Cry Dante fans, and they have the right to be mad at it and you know it....

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Their jabbing at how Pissy people are about his hair.

They're jabbing at the VOCAL original Devil may Cry Dante fans...It has NOTHING to do with the hair and more about them simply mocking the original Dante and taking cheap shots at them. Kyero are you purposely covering your eyes to the truth in front of you in favor of making light fun of it or do you actually have trouble reading between the lines?

Kyero Fox · 2013-01-06, 21:08

No I'm just not one of the people complaining about the new dante's looks or personality. The only thing I hate so far is the gameplay.

Personally I'm glad they decided to throw this in. Don't like the new dante then piss off, stop complaining about it and don't bother to look into it. Mean while me and the people who don't mind a change will... hopefuly enjoy it.

His personality is supose to fit with the setting. and that whole "FUCK YOU" Scene i'm pretty sure he only keeps saying it to piss off the monster.

kenjiharima · 2013-01-06, 21:22

Like we said it's more than that. Would you still support a company or a developer that insults ,be-rates and be-little the fanbase? didn't they know it's the fanbase which are the consumers that buy their product?

Either way just a tip no one is holding your hand to get the game, it's your choice, but also people with concerns about the game have a right to say what is wrong with it and the people who made it.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-06, 22:01

Btw it's not just Dante and Vergil, but it seems Sparda is no longer the Legendary Dark Knight... He is now... God, I can't even say it...

DingoEnderZOE2 · 2013-01-06, 22:08

What? A wimp that gets killed fairly easily? Go ahead say it.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-06, 22:11

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Originally Posted by DingoEnderZOE2

What? A wimp that gets killed fairly easily? Go ahead say it.

What rhymes with wimp

?

Apparently Sparda got captured and is now imprisoned as Mundus' bdsm slave.

I believe the word people used is 'gimp'.

Used Can · 2013-01-06, 22:38

As the rest have said, it's not merely the hair or the design itself. It's everything. The only resemblance the new guy has with Dante is the name, the red coat and he probably is half-demon too.

This is the same as if I were to make a new DBZ, and take Goku and make him completely edgy and then say this is supposed to be Goku, because I say so and if you don't like it, then fuck you. Or if, say, I were to take Sergeant Bosco and turn him into some rapper gangsta and all he has of the original is the haricut, the beard and the bling. I could also take Bond, turn him into some kind of chav vigilante who happens to like Vodka Martini and works for some organisation.

I understand change, but what's the point of taking a character and turning it into an entirely different character? Why not make a different game with a similar setting, or something like DMC4 with a character that isn't Dante as MC?

But well, they're probably aiming at the fans of titles like "No More Heroes," "inFamous," "God of War" with MCs that are "hardcore". Mind you, I like those titles too, but I also enjoy variety in terms of MC's personalities. That said, considering that those types of MCs are the rage these days, I wouldn't be surprised if DMC5 brought in new fans who wouldn't have played the game when the original Dante wasn't the MC (even though he was badass enough already).

KleenexGhost · 2013-01-06, 23:12

I've heard about that scene with the wig for a while now, but it's my first time seeing any footage/screenshots of it. All I can say is "Wow. Really, Ninja Theory?" I couldn't give two ****s about the hair. That's just a shot at the fanbase. The hair was a complaint when the first trailer came out. But more importantly fans were wondering if this was gonna be Devil May Cry in terms of gameplay and spirit. Gameplay? Well from what I played in the demo it's not. It doesn't have the speed, depth or challenge of the orignal games. Spirit? This games is trying too hard to be cool with this anti-establishment theme it's got going. Dante so far just comes off as a jackass. Original Dante may have been a jackass but he was still likeable.

That's just from what I've seen so far. Game comes out on the 15th.

Shadow5YA · 2013-01-06, 23:41

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

No I'm just not one of the people complaining about the new dante's looks or personality. The only thing I hate so far is the gameplay.

Personally I'm glad they decided to throw this in. Don't like the new dante then piss off, stop complaining about it and don't bother to look into it. Mean while me and the people who don't mind a change will... hopefuly enjoy it.

His personality is supose to fit with the setting. and that whole "FUCK YOU" Scene i'm pretty sure he only keeps saying it to piss off the monster.

A new look and character would be nice if this was... you know, a new series with its own name, but it's not.

Ninja Theory is using the name of an already established franchise as a PR crutch, but they're not paying any respect towards the property they are using at all.

And I think this scene gives quite a message quite different from "ignore it if you don't like it". Considering many people already stopped caring about the design change, all this did was remind them just to rub it into their faces. This isn't telling the fanbase to look past it, it's actual trolling by a professional.

Used Can · 2013-01-06, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Ninja Theory is using the name of an already established franchise as a PR crutch, but they're not paying any respect towards the property they are using at all.

In all fairness, from what I understand, Capcom themselves asked them to do that, in order to appeal more to Western fans.
I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom realised DMC sold better in the West than in Japan, and decided to focus more on our side. However, considering the types of MCs you see these days in Western video games and comics, they probably decided to remake Dante into some edgy guy.
For all we know, it could actually work for them, since Western gamers do like those type of MCs and the anti-establishment settings are also very popular these days in the West.

That said, NT's reaction to the fans' complaints has indeed been very unprofessional. However, considering they may be targeting a different audience and not the fanbase of the original games, they probably simply don't give a fuck and believe they'll look even more hardcore and cool to the new fans by making fun of the old fans who liked the "quirky" old Dante instead of the current "hardcore" one.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-07, 00:03

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Originally Posted by Used Can

In all fairness, from what I understand, Capcom themselves asked them to do that, in order to appeal more to Western fans.
I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom realised DMC sold better in the West than in Japan, and decided to focus more on our side. However, considering the types of MCs you see these days in Western video games and comics, they probably decided to remake Dante into some edgy guy.
For all we know, it could actually work for them, since Western gamers do like those type of MCs and the anti-establishment settings are also very popular these days in the West.

There was an interview with Alex Garland and he talked about working with Ninja Theory on Enslaved; apparently even then Ninja Theory had a thing for creating asshole characters. He pretty much had to over turn the whole thing.

Now that they're writing the story for DmC themselves, this is their chance to prove that they could write that kind of character.

Lolz, the keyword this time seems to be 'edgy'

KleenexGhost · 2013-01-07, 00:26

According to Gamefaqs Alex Garland is credited as Story Supervisor in the opening credits.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-07, 00:31

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Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

According to Gamefaqs Alex Garland is credited as Story Supervisor in the opening credits.

Supervisor yes, but before that they clearly showed Ninja Theory's big name as the writers in the credits.

KleenexGhost · 2013-01-07, 00:42

Clearly Ninja Theory wanted everyone to know they were responsible for such lines like

"The world is your b****, as am I. The only thing left to do is take it by the hair, bend it over, and f***"

Yeah.

I'll just leave this link here

http://m.gamefaqs.com/boards/605600-...y-cry/65109312

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-07, 00:46

That sounds totally edgy man

KleenexGhost · 2013-01-07, 00:53

Kinda reminded me of the scene from Shark Attack 3. Can't post youtube link since it might be inappropriate lol.

2013-01-06, 18:24	Link #961
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 24	Their jabbing at how Pissy people are about his hair. __________________

2013-01-06, 18:42	Link #963
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 32	Meh it's not just about the hair anymore, shows you how just immature people now are in the gaming industry. Anyone want to see the vid here. It's NSFW since there is a scene here Nu Dante gets drunk and sleeps with 2 girls in the end there the wig. Very not like the original Dante. http://www.3djuegos.com/juegos/video...novedades/dmc/ Now that is the vid they cannot take down. Si? Siiiiiii LOL __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2013-01-06, 21:08	Link #966
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 24	No I'm just not one of the people complaining about the new dante's looks or personality. The only thing I hate so far is the gameplay. Personally I'm glad they decided to throw this in. Don't like the new dante then piss off, stop complaining about it and don't bother to look into it. Mean while me and the people who don't mind a change will... hopefuly enjoy it. His personality is supose to fit with the setting. and that whole "FUCK YOU" Scene i'm pretty sure he only keeps saying it to piss off the monster. __________________ Last edited by Kyero Fox; 2013-01-06 at 21:21.

2013-01-06, 21:22	Link #967
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 32	Like we said it's more than that. Would you still support a company or a developer that insults ,be-rates and be-little the fanbase? didn't they know it's the fanbase which are the consumers that buy their product? Either way just a tip no one is holding your hand to get the game, it's your choice, but also people with concerns about the game have a right to say what is wrong with it and the people who made it. __________________ Vampire+Sisters Last edited by kenjiharima; 2013-01-06 at 22:04.

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Chaos2Frozen Chaos of Crawling Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 24	Btw it's not just Dante and Vergil, but it seems Sparda is no longer the Legendary Dark Knight... He is now... God, I can't even say it... __________________

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DingoEnderZOE2 Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ohayo Age: 26	What? A wimp that gets killed fairly easily? Go ahead say it. __________________ Anime in progress and enjoying: Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni kawaii wake ga nai Season 2 Animes on Hold:None Animes completed:None recently Anime evaluating:None Manga in progress:None at the moment

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Used Can Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	As the rest have said, it's not merely the hair or the design itself. It's everything. The only resemblance the new guy has with Dante is the name, the red coat and he probably is half-demon too. This is the same as if I were to make a new DBZ, and take Goku and make him completely edgy and then say this is supposed to be Goku, because I say so and if you don't like it, then fuck you. Or if, say, I were to take Sergeant Bosco and turn him into some rapper gangsta and all he has of the original is the haricut, the beard and the bling. I could also take Bond, turn him into some kind of chav vigilante who happens to like Vodka Martini and works for some organisation. I understand change, but what's the point of taking a character and turning it into an entirely different character? Why not make a different game with a similar setting, or something like DMC4 with a character that isn't Dante as MC? But well, they're probably aiming at the fans of titles like "No More Heroes," "inFamous," "God of War" with MCs that are "hardcore". Mind you, I like those titles too, but I also enjoy variety in terms of MC's personalities. That said, considering that those types of MCs are the rage these days, I wouldn't be surprised if DMC5 brought in new fans who wouldn't have played the game when the original Dante wasn't the MC (even though he was badass enough already). __________________ "The name is Tin; Used is just an alias. I'm everything Shoe Box would like to be." - Used Can of the Aluminium Kingdom

2013-01-06, 23:12	Link #972
KleenexGhost Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Earth Age: 20	I've heard about that scene with the wig for a while now, but it's my first time seeing any footage/screenshots of it. All I can say is "Wow. Really, Ninja Theory?" I couldn't give two ****s about the hair. That's just a shot at the fanbase. The hair was a complaint when the first trailer came out. But more importantly fans were wondering if this was gonna be Devil May Cry in terms of gameplay and spirit. Gameplay? Well from what I played in the demo it's not. It doesn't have the speed, depth or challenge of the orignal games. Spirit? This games is trying too hard to be cool with this anti-establishment theme it's got going. Dante so far just comes off as a jackass. Original Dante may have been a jackass but he was still likeable. That's just from what I've seen so far. Game comes out on the 15th. __________________ "I'll take a little revenge. What goes around comes around, right?"

2013-01-07, 00:26	Link #976
KleenexGhost Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Earth Age: 20	According to Gamefaqs Alex Garland is credited as Story Supervisor in the opening credits. __________________ "I'll take a little revenge. What goes around comes around, right?"

2013-01-07, 00:42	Link #978
KleenexGhost Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Earth Age: 20	Clearly Ninja Theory wanted everyone to know they were responsible for such lines like "The world is your b**, as am I. The only thing left to do is take it by the hair, bend it over, and f*" Yeah. I'll just leave this link here http://m.gamefaqs.com/boards/605600-...y-cry/65109312 __________________ "I'll take a little revenge. What goes around comes around, right?"

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Chaos2Frozen Chaos of Crawling Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 24	That sounds totally edgy man __________________

2013-01-07, 00:53	Link #980
KleenexGhost Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Earth Age: 20	Kinda reminded me of the scene from Shark Attack 3. Can't post youtube link since it might be inappropriate lol. __________________ "I'll take a little revenge. What goes around comes around, right?"