AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Current Series > Fairy Tail

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2013-01-11, 13:50   Link #10341
vansonbee
❤Ichigo 100%❤
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by mechalord View Post
Zeref has yet to appear. Kagura has unfathomable power.

Sword could have be given to her by Zeref. She may have indeed stabbed herself or Erza stabbed her instead with a quick strike.

I don't think anyone is in the position of interfering.
That is what I am also thinking. Jellal kept going on about someone with power similar to Zeref or something and it would be a BIG twist if it was Kagura.

Future Lucy was in the same area as Kagura, when Jellal felt something.

Regarding Erza being save by something, I highly doubt it. Only if Erza had a edolas brother who went to Earth land blah blah... XD
__________________
vansonbee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 14:05   Link #10342
seiftis
~Please kill me.
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Gazth-Sonika
Quote:
Originally Posted by vansonbee View Post
Regarding Erza being save by something, I highly doubt it. Only if Erza had a edolas brother who went to Earth land blah blah... XD
it's highly likely, Mashima always likes to do that. He wouldn't dare to slash Erza, one of the main character, until with that much blood. She has plot armor there.
__________________
seiftis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 14:41   Link #10343
Aquaman OS
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190 View Post
As for Simon's death Natsu is the one who was fighting Jellal he was gonna unleash an attack to kill natsu and erza tried to block it from hitting him simon then blocked it from Erza and simon died. What I have a problem with is it seems like erza should've told miliana how simon died when her and the group joined the FT gang
I'm pretty sure she did, considering Miliana blames Jellal for killing him and not Erza. What she didn't tell her was Jellal being manipulated, probably because they didn't learn that until later, and it's not really something they can completely prove to anyone not willing to take Jellal on good faith.
Aquaman OS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 14:52   Link #10344
Tempest35
Awe of She
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Orlando
It's a 'no-win' situation in regards to Kagura's anger, and of course, Erza feels responsible for everything that happened during the 'Tower of Heaven'.

And even if both Natsu and Erza had said that Simon died protecting them, that just leaves the obvious conclusion that Jellal killed him - no way to mince the words on that one. Kagura's got every right to be upset with Jellal, even more so since she and Simon were siblings. And since she knew that Simon loved her... she feels that if Simon didn't love her, that he wouldn't have died to protect her... She's the reason that Simon died so she feels responsible for it. Of course, the guilt trip of knowing that she has a chance to enjoy a relationship with Jellal despite what happened with all parties involved.

I've always wanted Jellal to get some consequence for blasting Simon (then laughing about it), beyond what Natsu did to him... but of course, I never wanted Erza to be the one to suffer for it.

Gray, hurry up and save her... >.<

And if Minerva did switch-out Erza at the last second for someone else... Moral Event Horizion has been reached.
__________________
"Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

Last edited by Tempest35; 2013-01-11 at 15:05.
Tempest35 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 15:06   Link #10345
Vmem
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Hmm, I wonder if this is how "future" Levy in that scene only had one arm...
Vmem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 16:13   Link #10346
kitten320
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Age: 24
Well it was nice to see Erza lose but was it for long? We saw same thing against Azuma and then she used big nakama power and dominated him -_-

Whoever that blood was, it's not Erza's that's for sure. Most likely Kagura's or Milliana's because I really doubt that our cheater would let it end fairly.

For one Kagura seems stronger than Erza and Erza is already all beaten up. Obviously Erza is the best choice to fight now. My guess is that Minerva has slashed Kagura before she could get her sword out.

Otherwise Kagura's story is kind of disappointing but oh well.
__________________
kitten320 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 16:48   Link #10347
Taco Bell
Gordita's for Everyone
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
it has to be minverva switched out erza for milliana. Kagura had no reason to stab herself(unless her swords power worked that way) and erza has main character protection. Killing milliana would mad kagura and erza into beast mode and the fight would begin again.
Taco Bell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 16:58   Link #10348
felix
sleepyhead
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: event horizon
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdeal000 View Post
Next chapter surprise reveal: Simon is still alive and he's arrived just in time to take the blow for Erza. He spent all these 7 and something years recovering from his near death.

P.s: this is just a joke...
Don't give Mashima ideas!!
__________________
felix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 17:00   Link #10349
Vmem
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdeal000 View Post
Next chapter surprise reveal: Simon is still alive and he's arrived just in time to take the blow for Erza. He spent all these 7 and something years recovering from his near death.

P.s: this is just a joke...
still has a slim chance of happening now though. the dude had a MASSIVE crush on Erza and I can see him coming back from the grave to take a hit for her
Vmem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 17:02   Link #10350
felix
sleepyhead
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: event horizon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vmem View Post
still has a slim chance of happening now though. the dude had a MASSIVE crush on Erza and I can see him coming back from the grave to take a hit for her
You're only allowed to take one fatal death blow per life for someone, ffs.
__________________
felix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 17:04   Link #10351
Taco Bell
Gordita's for Everyone
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdeal000 View Post
Next chapter surprise reveal: Simon is still alive and he's arrived just in time to take the blow for Erza. He spent all these 7 and something years recovering from his near death.

P.s: this is just a joke...
simon from the eclipse plan future takes the blow
Taco Bell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 17:21   Link #10352
seiftis
~Please kill me.
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Gazth-Sonika
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taco Bell View Post
simon from the eclipse plan future takes the blow
i feel like merging FT manga with Steins;Gate already *facepalm*
__________________
seiftis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 18:07   Link #10353
MAX_COLA_POWER!
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Puerto Rico
I bet Archenemy is thinking right now "jeez, and here I thought I finally found a calm owner to use me, now I got this screamer? I may be made of steel but if she keeps yelling this loud I may spontaneously break."
__________________
She's in your internets, watching you masterdebate.
MAX_COLA_POWER! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 20:51   Link #10354
Vmem
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
well, considering Kagura was a nobody 7 years ago, and Shonen manga are typically consistent with power levels being the same within family, Kagura probably made a deal with someone, possibly Zeref, and received Archenemy and powers to beat Jellal. Perhaps a part of the deal is something like she'll gain insane power if she releases the sword, but it'll cut her too or something like that
Vmem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 21:23   Link #10355
ranchan13
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by felix View Post
You're only allowed to take one fatal death blow per life for someone, ffs.
I don't know. Hinata in Naruto tried to take 2 for Naruto.

I'd buy it if Simon somehow came back to die for Erza again
__________________
Combat
ELEment
STrategic
Integrated
Artificial
Lifeform
ranchan13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 22:25   Link #10356
Krono
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryus View Post
As to the chapter... it was horrible. Simply put Kagura's back story seemingly conflicts with Millianna's. Simply put Millianna joined MH due to Kagura and vengence, but Kagura didn't seem to be a wizard back then and only swore revenge due to Millianna and then joined a guild. So its a what came first the chicken or the egg... worse we now know Kagura was a nobody 7 years ago, yet now she's seemingly beyond Erza.
Nothing in the chapter contradicts Millianna's story. Nothing says that Kagura was not a wizard when she met Millianna, or that Kagura had not joined a guild before meeting Millianna. It's entirely likely that Kagura joined a guild to gain the power and resources to search for her brother, then encountered Millianna, learned of his death, then swore vengeance and turned towards gathering the power to do that.
Krono is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 23:37   Link #10357
ImperialFlameGod8190
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
the problem with it is that Kagura's hatred of Jellal is based off of milliana who doesn't know the story behind simon's death and honestly as for 7 years ago we don't know that for sure considering that We didn't even know about Mermaid Heel and Quatro Cerberus before the tourney.
As for the whole nobody thing keep in mind Elfman whose probably equal to gray beat bacchus whose as strong as erza (granted he used a cheapo trick) plus for some ironic reason Erza has struggled against female swordsman. Remember the Ikaruga fight on the Tower of Heaven we'll see wat happens but honestly im not sure what everyone's outraged about
ImperialFlameGod8190 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 23:38   Link #10358
HiddenMessage
HuH~?
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Page 17 of the 9 Yin Manual
Age: 24
Why is Kagura's power-level not reasonable? Her target was a Wizard Saint who is on par with Master Makarov, who is many times stronger than Erza. 7 years is a long time for one to level up in the world. That sand guy had pre-2nd Origin Natsu on the ropes. And from other stories like Naruto, we know how "hate" can motivate. All I'm saying is, Kagura has the time and the motivation to become deadly.
HiddenMessage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-11, 23:40   Link #10359
ImperialFlameGod8190
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
plus she has a classic plot armor fighting for revenge seems to make people freaking strong especially in FT plus shes pretty hot
ImperialFlameGod8190 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-12, 00:28   Link #10360
MechR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by HiddenMessage View Post
Why is Kagura's power-level not reasonable? Her target was a Wizard Saint who is on par with Master Makarov, who is many times stronger than Erza. 7 years is a long time for one to level up in the world.
Didn't help Raven Tail against Luxus. And I'm still mad about that

Quote:
That sand guy had pre-2nd Origin Natsu on the ropes.
But then Second Origin let Natsu steamroll the Twin Dragons without even powering up. And Erza got the same treatment. You can argue it might not have boosted her as much, but then she had that 100-monster showing with the (supposedly) Wizard-Saint-level boss monster.

Quote:
And from other stories like Naruto, we know how "hate" can motivate. All I'm saying is, Kagura has the time and the motivation to become deadly.
It's just jumbled with the other contradictory powerlevel things Mashima's been doing since the timeskip
MechR is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
action, adventure, fantasy, magic, shounen

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:26.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.