2012-12-15, 07:50 | Link #781 |
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I think in a China/Japan conflict of the modern era, there'd be no winner. Whoever won the military conflict would subsequently lose due to the economic repercussions. One good aspect of globalization is it should serve as a deterrent from these types of engagement by large industrial nations.
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2012-12-16, 10:29 | Link #782 | |
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Anyway, if China really wants to beat Japan out of there, it'd maintain the statu quo. While it has not yet reached its entire military potential, Japan is going down right now. A fight picked a decade after for those islands would obviously be advantageous for China. At the same time, this conflict was for the sake of creating "patriotism" in both countries' cases. So it holds much more value for the politicians than for the people in general.
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2012-12-17, 02:48 | Link #783 |
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Abe pledges no compromise over disputed islands
TOKYO — Incoming Prime Minister Shinzo Abe came out fighting Monday after his sweeping election victory, saying there can be no compromise on the sovereignty of islands at the center of a dispute with China. “The Senkaku islands are Japan’s inherent territory,” he told a press conference, referring to an archipelago Beijing calls the Diaoyus. “Japan owns and controls the islands… under international law. There is no room for negotiation on this point”. Full Article http://www.japantoday.com/category/p...nds-are-japans |
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2013-01-12, 06:42 | Link #786 |
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As if we were expecting not much of an escalation, we are witnessing a lot in the past few days:
China still sends some military planes to the region, but without actually entering Japanese airspace: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...247161/1/.html China Warns Citizens To 'Prepare For The Worst' As It Sends Fighters To East China Sea: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-...134904740.html Japan PM fires fresh broadside at China in row: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...7588fddff3.1b1 With now both aerial forces in the area, this could get ugly. Still, the PRC keep on asking for trouble wherever they are knocking (be it Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, India or even Hong Kong). Do the guys from the CCP ever look at themselves at what mess they could bring upon themselves? It's almost they took too much of a lead intake into their brains. |
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2013-01-12, 07:01 | Link #788 |
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No disrespect, GenjiChan, but I don't see anything funny in all of this, especially not after the Chinese had military ships port in Saigon the other day in the midst of the Vietnam/China territorial dispute.
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2013-01-12, 07:15 | Link #789 | |
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Funny, I never heard that on TV but it would be a big deal if they did that on the Philippines, I mean port in our ports. I don't know if Vietnam has alliances to the US like the Philippine has. |
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The Vietnamese state media are keeping it silent because the local government is too chickenshit to make a stand, but the news is well spread elsewhere on forums and many Vietnamese people are extremely unhappy at how the sissies in Hanoi reacted. About military alliances, I really don't know. |
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2013-01-12, 15:42 | Link #794 | |
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tl;dr: Saying the KMT was as bad as the CCP is nonsensical. |
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2013-01-12, 17:11 | Link #795 | |
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From the looks of it: 2 Type 054A Jiangkai II stealth multi-role frigates (Yiyang and Changzhou) and a tanker. http://www.bbc.co.uk/vietnamese/viet...s_saigon.shtml https://danluan.org/lien-ket/2013010...-ngay-07012013 |
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2013-01-12, 19:03 | Link #797 |
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Could the Vietnamese be trying to play both sides (or just figuring out who is better for them)? It wasn't all that long ago that US Naval vessels were welcomed back to Vietnam.
Though that does bring up an interesting question. What is the state of that country now? Who holds more effective control? Hanoi or Saigon (I don't know anyone outside of Political Correctness or Hanoi calls in Ho Chi Minh City anymore.?
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