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Old 2013-01-13, 19:46   Link #2921
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It was probably also to disguise the kirara's real target a bit back in season 1, when it worked best when both Chieri and Nagisa were together.
Well you could look at it as being more abstract: Chieri's Kirara has the most complicated "hair", just like she does!
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Old 2013-01-13, 20:01   Link #2922
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Well, you know. Dance, sing, etc. Perform.
Thought so, just checking. And yes, the stage is indeed Chieri's place. She doesn't do so bad in front of the camera, though.

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It was probably also to disguise the kirara's real target a bit back in season 1, when it worked best when both Chieri and Nagisa were together.
Then they wouldn't have shown Chieri in a ponytail in the first place during s1. Were we (read, I) just too dumb to notice?

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Oh be warned, I come up with all sorts of graphic and disproportionately violent threats to people who are mean to girls I like in these shows. If he were to do something like that to her... I don't know if any of my normal ways of wanting to kill villains would be strong enough punishment. I may have to come up with something special should that happen.
Guess I shouldn't tell you the even worse things he could do that have even more of a chance to happen. At the very least, Kanata, Yuuko and Nagisa wouldn't buy any spy crap for even a second.

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So while I think it would be possible to shake her out of her immediate lethergy and back into being an idol (or inspire her out of it, as we saw here), I suspect whatever the bigger issue is that's getting her down has yet to be fully resolved, and it's going to take something... else to solve it.
Hopefully that something is her bursting into Aizendad's lair to rescue Chieri while singing aitakatta.
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Old 2013-01-13, 20:54   Link #2923
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Well I do tend to be soft on girls unless they do something to get me angry, but that's not the only reason here. You can't really shake or slap sense into Nagisa. It tends to take something special to really get through to her: saying the right words or showing her the right thing to make her have an epiphany, and I don't feel that I have a clear enough view about what specific issue regarding the elections is bothering Nagisa to be able to do that just yet. There's the general concern about how well she'll do and the issues about competing against her friends and mentors and such, but I don't really feel those are quite the full story of why she's acting so mopey. So while I think it would be possible to shake her out of her immediate lethergy and back into being an idol (or inspire her out of it, as we saw here), I suspect whatever the bigger issue is that's getting her down has yet to be fully resolved, and it's going to take something... else to solve it.
The reason Nagisa disliked the elections seems obvious to me. From parts on season 1, we can already see Nagisa dislike the idea of competition between the AKB00 members, seeing them more as teammates than rivals, or at least rivals that are much more worried about fighting together than trying to get one over each other. Having a ranking means you're deciding who is better than who, a notion she dislikes. She doesn't want to be ranked too low as she wants to see her effort on being on the team recognized, but at the same time she feels like getting a better rank than someone else would be like hurting them.

That's something Chieri and Nagisa were on opposite sides of the fence, but thought season 1, both got more around the middle. Chieri herself comments that on episode 14, about how she learned they have to work together. Nagisa too improved her vision that was too naive to the point she says she was happy Yuuko considered her a rival (in that case she mentioned all the kenkyusei also as rivals).

The elections is like a higher level of what she dislikes, but Nagisa already been growing regarding that on those two episodes. On episode one she was able to get the example of Yuuko, that is very competitive, but at the same time is a great teammate that wouldn't think twice before risking her life to save one of her own. Also in this episode, seeing Acchan helped her too, although it doesn't seems Nagisa got the full meaning I got from that video which is something she needs to realize imo. Acchan video shows that being better than others can have positive effects on them, rather than the negative ones Nagisa fears. It can inspire others to better themselves, following the example of the winner.
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Old 2013-01-13, 22:09   Link #2924
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Leting your Idols bungee jump not the brightist idea one haves
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Old 2013-01-13, 22:54   Link #2925
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Leting your Idols bungee jump not the brightist idea one haves
It's The World of Tomorrow. I'm sure they have safety devices galore.
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Old 2013-01-13, 23:14   Link #2926
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It's The World of Tomorrow. I'm sure they have safety devices galore.
According to comments around here, they've done it in the world of today, too.

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The reason Nagisa disliked the elections seems obvious to me. From parts on season 1, we can already see Nagisa dislike the idea of competition between the AKB00 members, seeing them more as teammates than rivals, or at least rivals that are much more worried about fighting together than trying to get one over each other. Having a ranking means you're deciding who is better than who, a notion she dislikes. She doesn't want to be ranked too low as she wants to see her effort on being on the team recognized, but at the same time she feels like getting a better rank than someone else would be like hurting them.
I suppose that could be the reason... She hasn't given me a good view into her thoughts yet on this issue this season. She's just been busy angsting.

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Guess I shouldn't tell you the even worse things he could do that have even more of a chance to happen.
Oh I'm sure there's lots of stuff he can and will try to do. I'll be really pissed when he has her kidnapped and starts actively experimenting on her and her kirara. Now don't mind me, I'll just be over here, setting up this machine to inject droplets of sulfuric acid under his fingernails...

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Hopefully that something is her bursting into Aizendad's lair to rescue Chieri while singing aitakatta.
For some reason, the only song that seems appropriate to me for AKB rescues is the one they used during the rescue in episode 2. Um... *looks it up* AKB Sanjou! For some reason I just feel that needs to be sung during dramatic rescues. Perhaps because it's what was used the first time they did one.

On a completely unrelated note to anything else, I forgot to mention before, I find both the new OP and the new ED to be less exciting than the original ones. Admittedly that's often the case with second season OP and EDs. Perhaps they'll grow on me.
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Old 2013-01-13, 23:55   Link #2927
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I suppose that could be the reason... She hasn't given me a good view into her thoughts yet on this issue this season. She's just been busy angsting.
Also, IRL, in her first elections last year, Karen Iwata (Nagisa) wasn't able to secure any of the 64 top spots, unlike some of her No Name fellows who made it into the list, so this episode is more likely personal for her.
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Old 2013-01-14, 00:09   Link #2928
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Oh I'm sure there's lots of stuff he can and will try to do. I'll be really pissed when he has her kidnapped and starts actively experimenting on her and her kirara.
Oh god, that's going to be horrible. Let's stop this train of discussion right here before more nasty images pop in both our heads.

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For some reason, the only song that seems appropriate to me for AKB rescues is the one they used during the rescue in episode 2. Um... *looks it up* AKB Sanjou! For some reason I just feel that needs to be sung during dramatic rescues. Perhaps because it's what was used the first time they did one.
Sounds fitting, but wouldn't it be a little repetitive since Chieri was also the one who needed the most rescuing that time? It would be nice to see Nagisa actually saving her on her own, though.

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On a completely unrelated note to anything else, I forgot to mention before, I find both the new OP and the new ED to be less exciting than the original ones. Admittedly that's often the case with second season OP and EDs. Perhaps they'll grow on me.
Funny, I forgot to mention that too. The new OP is nothing spectacular, but I'm already liking the new ED, the music, while not as intense this time, is really good and could definetly be used as an insert song for a dramatic moment. I also like the literal curtain close at the end, it has such a nice feel to it. Also, space cubes everywhere
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Old 2013-01-14, 11:18   Link #2929
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completely not digging the new op and eds music wise, the videos are pretty, tho.

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Well, even if they knew, I don't know what they could do about it. Even if the sponsor is Zodiac, as long as they don't breach whatever contract they have going on, there shouldn't be any problems. Of course, Zodiac has some evil designs for Chieri but I don't see how Tsubasa would learn about that.
I think that was already solved in the first season ?
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Old 2013-01-14, 11:25   Link #2930
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I think that was already solved in the first season ?
Um, no. It wasn't even touched on in the first season.
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Old 2013-01-14, 15:18   Link #2931
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I'll be disappointed if this season continues to put fanservice ahead of the story as the first couple of episodes have done. The plot developments are interesting ones, but they get easily lost amidst the array of T&A that seems to be the focus of this season so far. For me, at least, cute girls busting out of their clothes has less appeal than a good story.
This. It is indeed a big turn-off.

This second season is having a lot of dumb moments so far....; I honestly could not believe the stuff they did with Mimori in this episode!

"Oh lol, look, it's food that looks like boobs! With nipples and everything!"

Seriously?

I'd expect that from an ecchi harem...but not from AKB0048. That was pretty stupid and in bad taste.

Tsubasa telling the girls the shows were crap redeemed the episode a little. It's good to have an anime character voice your own opinion.

I'm disappointed in the OP too....but I didn't expect it to be better (or as good) than the first OP; they hardly ever are.
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Old 2013-01-14, 17:03   Link #2932
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Talking about that picture with the 10 new characters and their names... I liked the design of Yui-han, Paruru and Ume-chan. Also, is it just me or Love-tan's face looks like... an insect XD?
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Old 2013-01-14, 17:41   Link #2933
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This. It is indeed a big turn-off.

This second season is having a lot of dumb moments so far....; I honestly could not believe the stuff they did with Mimori in this episode!

"Oh lol, look, it's food that looks like boobs! With nipples and everything!"

Mimori's obviously portrayed as a dead ringer for Kasai Tomomi, so she gotta show her sexiness in silly ways, it's part of the character. Remember Sayaka compared her to Tomomi in the first season? Well, now it's finally showing....
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Old 2013-01-14, 18:35   Link #2934
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Mimori's obviously portrayed as a dead ringer for Kasai Tomomi, so she gotta show her sexiness in silly ways, it's part of the character. Remember Sayaka compared her to Tomomi in the first season? Well, now it's finally showing....
In that case, Mimori's keeping the fanservice toned down.
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Old 2013-01-14, 21:42   Link #2935
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Mimori's obviously portrayed as a dead ringer for Kasai Tomomi, so she gotta show her sexiness in silly ways, it's part of the character. Remember Sayaka compared her to Tomomi in the first season? Well, now it's finally showing....
*sighs*

I know...but they're going overboard with it. >_> It won't hurt to be a little less ecchi. The first series did it all right.
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Old 2013-01-14, 22:58   Link #2936
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*sighs*

I know...but they're going overboard with it. >_> It won't hurt to be a little less ecchi. The first series did it all right.
...My immediate reaction to people complaining about "all the fanservice in these episodes" was "there was fanservice in these episodes?" So while you call it overboard, some of us didn't even notice it being any different at all.
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Old 2013-01-14, 22:59   Link #2937
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So while you call it overboard, some of us didn't even notice it being any different at all.
Maybe those "some of us" have been watching too much porn so the service pales in comparsion. :/

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Old 2013-01-14, 23:00   Link #2938
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Hi, I just want to lret you know thast fanfiction.net has now his section for AKB0048. You can now write your own AKB0048 fanfics. Here's the link: http://www.fanfiction.net/anime/AKB0048/
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Old 2013-01-14, 23:08   Link #2939
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...My immediate reaction to people complaining about "all the fanservice in these episodes" was "there was fanservice in these episodes?" So while you call it overboard, some of us didn't even notice it being any different at all.
I noticed, just didn't care. To me it's essentially Nise to a much smaller degree, the fanservice hasn't taken away or affected anything that makes the series awesome (music, color, Chieri, etc), so there's no reason to complain.
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Old 2013-01-14, 23:11   Link #2940
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A lil bit comparison between AKB48 and AKB0048...

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