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amaterasu4 · 2013-01-15, 14:18

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Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

Not gonna lie I'm a big sucker for good theme songs (openings, inserts, etc.) And that trailer was making the game look better.

The mid 2012 trailer used Depeche Mode's "Wrong." Wonder if they are using it or just another. After all, all Metal Gear games since Solid 1 have had main theme songs.

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2013-01-15, 14:22

Too bad Solidus is dead. It'd be really interesting to see more history and interactions between him and Raiden.

amaterasu4 · 2013-01-15, 14:31

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Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

Too bad Solidus is dead. It'd be really interesting to see more history and interactions between him and Raiden.

Well we'll have Raiden's flashbacks to see more of him.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-15, 17:06

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

After all, all Metal Gear games since Solid 1 have had main theme songs.

Yeah but with the exception of [Snake Eater], I wasn't really feeling any of those songs

kenjiharima · 2013-01-15, 17:44

^
I liked those because I watched older Bond movies.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-16, 21:26

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-01-16, 22:00

Fucking brutal.

I like it!

Marionette Cherry · 2013-01-17, 02:26

Raiden sure has come a long way

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-17, 02:32

Kojima style character development

More people should adopt this method for their less-than-likeable characters

Marionette Cherry · 2013-01-17, 02:45

I didn't mind Raiden :<

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-17, 02:55

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Originally Posted by Marionette Cherry

I didn't mind Raiden :<

Maahhh~ I'm just echoing what I've heard, I didn't play MGS2 so I don't have any opinion on it

Don't take it to heart

Ryonea · 2013-01-17, 04:27

So they still keep the "white blood". Nice

I thought they changed it all into red "blood" from the previous trailers and clips.
Some people don't like the white one since it reminded them of something....

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-17, 04:32

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Originally Posted by Ryonea

So they still keep the "white blood". Nice

I thought they changed it all into red "blood" from the previous trailers and clips.
Some people don't like the white one since it reminded them of something....

The white blood is only for Japan because of censorship.

Marionette Cherry · 2013-01-17, 04:42

Didn't they also change enemies from humans to robots? Or was it always like that?

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-17, 04:54

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Originally Posted by Marionette Cherry

Didn't they also change enemies from humans to robots? Or was it always like that?

Something like that

the initial gameplay showed Raiden cutting up soldiers, but then they changed it to cyborg... I guess it's more morally acceptable...? Ignoring the fact that cyborgs are still living humans...

Ryonea · 2013-01-17, 04:58

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

The white blood is only for Japan because of censorship.

I see. I thought it's depending on the enemy type or something like "blood color" option.

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Originally Posted by Marionette Cherry

Didn't they also change enemies from humans to robots? Or was it always like that?

MG Rising's enemy was always cyborgs. Not really sure for the PMCs in one of the original trailer.

The red "blood" wasn't real blood. It's oil. First mentioned when Gekko was described in MGS4 IIRC.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-17, 05:38

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Originally Posted by Ryonea

I see. I thought it's depending on the enemy type or something like "blood color" option.

Well I can't rule out the possibility of that option either

amaterasu4 · 2013-01-17, 08:24

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Originally Posted by Marionette Cherry

Raiden sure has come a long way

From what I've read in Solid 2 Raiden was supposed to be like a normal person to the point in the ending he was the player's avatar sharing his experience and even name in the dogtag. Kojima noted that Western response was horrible (most were just frustrated they couldn't play as Snake) so he changed him for Solid 4. This time Raiden acted more like a Metal Gear character talking about fights, how bad life and people liked him a lot....

His fighting style was so popular that several fans wanted a game to play as him. Kojima knows how to handle the fans.

Marionette Cherry · 2013-01-17, 10:30

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

From what I've read in Solid 2 Raiden was supposed to be like a normal person to the point in the ending he was the player's avatar sharing his experience and even name in the dogtag. Kojima noted that Western response was horrible (most were just frustrated they couldn't play as Snake) so he changed him for Solid 4. This time Raiden acted more like a Metal Gear character talking about fights, how bad life and people liked him a lot....

His fighting style was so popular that several fans wanted a game to play as him. Kojima knows how to handle the fans.

That's one way to explain it, I'll dig that explantion, that whole part where you're in arsenal gear pretty much elaborated on Raiden being 'the player' I just never picked up on it until just now, lol. "Raiden! Turn the game off!" Comical, but that whole section was really unsettling, I guess that was the point though.

kenjiharima · 2013-01-17, 19:04

Sorry Kojima in MGS2 I don't see myself as Raiden. I want to be SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!

Well either way when he debuted in his Cyborg ninja with highheels in MGS4, it's pretty obvious they will make a game out of it and here is our game.

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