Metal Gear Rising: Revengence!

[kenjiharima]

lol thumbnail

YouTube

http://youtu.be/lPsFgss03RQ

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

[Kaisos Erranon]

That music is really something.

[Rayneing]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Sorry Kojima in MGS2 I don't see myself as Raiden. I want to be SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!

Wasn't 'wanting to be Snake' more or less what Raiden was like in that game? :P

[kenjiharima]

Originally Posted by Rayneing

Wasn't 'wanting to be Snake' more or less what Raiden was like in that game? :P

Screams *Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake*

Well at least we don't have to see a disturbing gameplay like this anymore.

YouTube

http://youtu.be/oe2ZW4boNqE

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

[Kyero Fox]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

lol thumbnail

YouTube

http://youtu.be/lPsFgss03RQ

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

LOL the thumbnail XD Wish that was in the game.

[amaterasu4]

Well at least we don't have to see a disturbing gameplay like this anymore.

That was one of the funniest things I've seen in gaming besides some Persona 4 scenes.

Originally Posted by Rayneing

Wasn't 'wanting to be Snake' more or less what Raiden was like in that game? :P

I think Raiden considered Snake a legend or hero and wanted to have such big determination in contrast to him who is ashamed of Jack the Ripper. Snake reacts pretty much like Kojima and says that he is just a soldier and that he can choose what to do about him. The Patriots really wanted him to become a replica of Snake during Solid 2 through Big Shell but after that they made him a cyborg so that he would be like Gray Fox.

I've no idea what was the Patriots' idea when kidnapping Raiden and turning him into a cyborg but the Metal Gear database says he was left to die by the Patriots and Big Mama/Eva saved him.

[Ryonea]

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

I've no idea what was the Patriots' idea when kidnapping Raiden and turning him into a cyborg but the Metal Gear database says he was left to die by the Patriots and Big Mama/Eva saved him.

I believe Patriots just tortured him by severing his body. I also don't know why they grafted cyborg body into him, though.... probably as an experiment for them / or act as a short-term "life support" for him (since all was left of him was the head and spine, minus his jaw) so they can continue to torture him.

Later, it was Dr. Madnar who made him into a proper cyborg. I believe it's to save his life too + Raiden's willingness to continue fighting (otherwise, he could just use a human cyborg body like his MGS4 ending)

[kenjiharima]

It is also known to Raiden at that time Campbell and Rose had an "Affair" which Rose left Raiden aka Jack. This was done secretly to protect Raiden's family from the Patriots.
Poor Raiden had to endure such a fate. Heck even in MGS4 he was fighting w/out arms. Wonder if we will see that in MGR.

[Marionette Cherry]

I'm hoping this game isn't cut scene heavy. Like Metal Gear Solid 4 was.
But because this is a spin-off and the gameplay looks really fun, we'll see.

[demino_hellsin]

Can anyone give me an opinion why rising isn't gettung as much flak as DmC? Just out of pure curiosity of what the two games did intheir development that makes their reception so wildly different from each other.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

Can anyone give me an opinion why rising isn't gettung as much flak as DmC? Just out of pure curiosity of what the two games did intheir development that makes their reception so wildly different from each other.

For one thing, the developers for Rising aren't being a dick to the fan base.

For another thing, majority of people actually like cyborg ninjas as oppose to... that. Drastically changing an iconic character is a big massive no-no... Believe me, had it been Snake instead of Raiden, there would be a shitstorm as well.

That's not to say that Rising isn't getting any flak; there are some MGS fans who aren't happy about this series venturing into the action hack n' slash genre. But most people accept that this is not a MGS game, this is a spin-off, it's not like there wouldn't be anymore MGS games.

This is what happens when the media don't actually try to fan the flames; nothing will gets blown out of proportion.

[amaterasu4]

Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

Can anyone give me an opinion why rising isn't gettung as much flak as DmC? Just out of pure curiosity of what the two games did intheir development that makes their reception so wildly different from each other.

Probably because of the staff intentions. Metal Gear Solid Rising started development as a result of people's request to play as Raiden from Metal Gear Solid 4. When Platinum took over the game's development, they collaborated with KojiPro so that the characters and the story would be similar to previous games. Platinum mentioned previously that the plot was made after Solid 4 so that the story would be easy to understand to newcomers unlike KojiPro's original plan for an intersequel.

In contrast, Capcom requested Ninja Theory a massive change to the Devil May Cry series.

By the way, here we have the preorder bonuses of Rising
http://www.metalgearsolidtv.com/2013...ce-new_15.html


Something really weird about Japanese Metal Gear Solid 2's Raiden is that has one of the strongest voices ever.

[Marionette Cherry]

I wonder why they refer to Grey Fox as 'Cyborg Ninja'?

[amaterasu4]

Originally Posted by Marionette Cherry

I wonder why they refer to Grey Fox as 'Cyborg Ninja'?

In the first two games he was called Gray Fox but in Metal Gear Solid they mostly refer to him as Deepthroat and Cyborg Ninja since they didn't know his identity yet. The latter nickname (as well as the costume) was also used by Olga in Solid 2.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

That's not to say that Rising isn't getting any flak; there are some MGS fans who aren't happy about this series venturing into the action hack n' slash genre. But most people accept that this is not a MGS game, this is a spin-off, it's not like there wouldn't be anymore MGS games.

I thinkt that's the main reason.

One is a reboot that effectively destroyed the franchise (there will be no more classic DMC games unless the game bombs spectacularly) while the other is merely a spin-off that will have no incidence on the rest of the saga (another classic MGS is already set to come out). If you don't like Rising, you can just skip it and keep enjoy your classic Metal Gears. You don't have that option with DMC. The original DMC fanbase has been totally screwed over, that's why they're so mad.

[Vigo]

Originally Posted by Marionette Cherry

I wonder why they refer to Grey Fox as 'Cyborg Ninja'?

The Cyborg Ninja program. The name Cyborg Ninja comes from the exoskeleton and the h.f. sword they use. After his defeat by Snake, Grays body was recovered and put into a high tech exoskeleton by Clark and used as a test subject. The extra mobility, enhancing strength, speed, evade and jumping ability and the weapon basically turned him into an artificial ninja. Gray was the first and prototype named the Cyborg Ninja. This name was also used in MGS 1 when they referred to him because they didn't knew who he was.

[Marionette Cherry]

Originally Posted by Vigo

The Cyborg Ninja program. The name Cyborg Ninja comes from the exoskeleton and the h.f. sword they use. After his defeat by Snake, Grays body was recovered and put into a high tech exoskeleton by Clark and used as a test subject. The extra mobility, enhancing strength, speed, evade and jumping ability and the weapon basically turned him into an artificial ninja. Gray was the first and prototype named the Cyborg Ninja. This name was also used in MGS 1 when they referred to him because they didn't knew who he was.

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

In the first two games he was called Gray Fox but in Metal Gear Solid they mostly refer to him as Deepthroat and Cyborg Ninja since they didn't know his identity yet. The latter nickname (as well as the costume) was also used by Olga in Solid 2.

Ah, Okay, I knew who he was and all. I thought the people who wrote the article forgot who he was called or something silly like that.

I wonder if Olga's cyborg ninja suit will become an unlockable.

[kenjiharima]

Btw if you got the MGS HD collection playing MGS3 Snake Eater the bonus Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 from the nes are included. Funny thing about MGS3 is that it makes fun of Raiden alot seems Kojima knows he's not well received by fans, you can unlock it in MGS3.

The E3 Trailer Raiden was booed. No kidding.

YouTube

http://youtu.be/alz2PAE4q4o

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

So to up his game, he was turned into the new Cyborg Ninja. Cooler eh? Still has high heels

[Marionette Cherry]

I'm a little bothered that the game looks like it encourages you to use stealth (with the Alert bar and what not) and not go crazy like a hack 'n' slash.

I figured because it's a spin off it'll be different to what we're used to in the MG/MGS series.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Marionette Cherry

I'm a little bothered that the game looks like it encourages you to use stealth (with the Alert bar and what not) and not go crazy like a hack 'n' slash.

I figured because it's a spin off it'll be different to what we're used to in the MG/MGS series.

It's just to appease fans of MGS, I highly doubt the stealth mechanics would be any deeper than say Uncharted.