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Old 2013-01-20, 02:34   Link #761
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Wtf is with this ending????
Why did the grandfather even bother to clone the animals in the first place?
Who is Hades?
Why did no one except Yarai seem to hook up at all
Wth
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Old 2013-01-20, 04:21   Link #762
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Wtf is with this ending????
Why did the grandfather even bother to clone the animals in the first place?
Who is Hades?
Why did no one except Yarai seem to hook up at all
Wth
1- Open ending = so author can write another season if he want.
2- It was his grand daughter dream.
3- Akira clone ( or classmate).
4- Because all girls like him?
(They don't want to anger other girls fan?)
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Old 2013-01-20, 04:37   Link #763
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Did he really just end the manga leaving that many plot holes?

Could've like... I dunno... replace the pages of the bath scenes to explain more stuff...
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Old 2013-01-20, 05:30   Link #764
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I saw it coming.

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Old 2013-01-20, 06:40   Link #765
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Really do hope that it gets another season. Was such a good manga up until it nosedived towards the ending.
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Old 2013-01-20, 10:13   Link #766
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Really do hope that it gets another season. Was such a good manga up until it nosedived towards the ending.
Doubt it will, you don't self-destruct a series that you can/want to continue later.

Also, it's not so much a nosedive, but more like a free-falling exploding fireball Considering the author is already promoting his next work, the most likely scenario is that he just got bored or didn't want to deal with the mess of a story he's created, and just decided to Nice Boat his readers and gtfo.
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Old 2013-01-20, 13:10   Link #767
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Doubt it will, you don't self-destruct a series that you can/want to continue later.

Also, it's not so much a nosedive, but more like a free-falling exploding fireball Considering the author is already promoting his next work, the most likely scenario is that he just got bored or didn't want to deal with the mess of a story he's created, and just decided to Nice Boat his readers and gtfo.
You speak so much sense it hurts. Authors that do this are the worst.

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Old 2013-01-20, 13:18   Link #768
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Old 2013-01-20, 15:17   Link #769
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Didn't Ken Akamatsu end Negima because the publisher was planning to make a play for control of his work (see http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...stcount=8408)?

This seemed like the author just ran out of steam.
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Old 2013-01-20, 15:44   Link #770
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I was not referring to the reason it ended so much as how it ended.
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Old 2013-01-20, 17:20   Link #771
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It says "END" but I also read "Last volume, 21, is out on Febuary 15th!".

So is this now completly over or what is the content of the "Last volume"?
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Old 2013-01-20, 17:27   Link #772
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It says "END" but I also read "Last volume, 21, is out on Febuary 15th!".

So is this now completly over or what is the content of the "Last volume"?
Yeah the chapters come out as they're serialised. Vol.21 will comprise the last of those chapters up to ch.185.
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Old 2013-01-20, 20:22   Link #773
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Yea, pretty much. The author had 4 years to wrap up the story in a acceptable manner, there should be at least 20-30 chapters not devoted to ZOMG BOOB or HOLY WE FOUND SOMETHING STAY TUNE NEXT CHAPTER.

ETC....
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Old 2013-01-21, 00:42   Link #774
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Yea, pretty much. The author had 4 years to wrap up the story in a acceptable manner, there should be at least 20-30 chapters not devoted to ZOMG BOOB or HOLY WE FOUND SOMETHING STAY TUNE NEXT CHAPTER
The Princess(Boob/Not-really-revelations) is in the next Castle(chapter)...
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Old 2013-01-21, 18:04   Link #775
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Personally, I think the author gave up on the story.

He came up with an interesting concept of bunch of school students stuck on an island of extinct animals (plus fanservice) and ran with it, but I doubt he actually thought about HOW they got on the island in the first place. So he ended up slowly writing himself into a corner and couldn't figure out how to tie up all the loose ends. So he got tired of dealing with the mess he got himself into, and lost interest/motivation with the work. Better tie up the main loose end (the truth behind the Raika Island) and then end the story so he can move on to something else that he's raring to do instead. The fact that he's already planning a new story shows how eager he is to drop Cage of Eden.

So he comes up with the idea of Flight 2307 being shunted into future somehow. Everyone believes the flight lost, so Yoshimi Isurugi and then later Yuna Sengoku builds Raika island as memorial to the missing Flight 2307, in the area where the flight was presumed to have disappeared. Eventually the island is completed, and later abandoned by humans... only to serve as landing spot for the Flight 2307 that coincidentally re-appears after some untold years.
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Old 2013-01-21, 18:44   Link #776
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Personally, I think the author gave up on the story.

He came up with an interesting concept of bunch of school students stuck on an island of extinct animals (plus fanservice) and ran with it, but I doubt he actually thought about HOW they got on the island in the first place. So he ended up slowly writing himself into a corner and couldn't figure out how to tie up all the loose ends. So he got tired of dealing with the mess he got himself into, and lost interest/motivation with the work. Better tie up the main loose end (the truth behind the Raika Island) and then end the story so he can move on to something else that he's raring to do instead. The fact that he's already planning a new story shows how eager he is to drop Cage of Eden.

So he comes up with the idea of Flight 2307 being shunted into future somehow. Everyone believes the flight lost, so Yoshimi Isurugi and then later Yuna Sengoku builds Raika island as memorial to the missing Flight 2307, in the area where the flight was presumed to have disappeared. Eventually the island is completed, and later abandoned by humans... only to serve as landing spot for the Flight 2307 that coincidentally re-appears after some untold years.
I honestly doubt it. Look at the last panel on this page:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/656/cag...-hawk-scans/27

And the next 2 pages. The next two pages are supposed to be a double spread which would look like this: http://www.abload.de/img/eden1_032-33vujw.jpg

If the author didn't know the reason for the time travel he wouldn't draw the plane crash like this. He would draw it more 'ambiguous'.

And also, the fact that the dead pilot seems to have known "something" about the island and that he said they must get off of it or they couldn't ever return + the fact that the plane was undamaged which, by the pilots' comment, wasn't because of his skill, all point to the fact that the author knew, at least roughly, what exactly happened at the plane crash.
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Old 2013-01-21, 19:25   Link #777
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I honestly doubt it. Look at the last panel on this page:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/656/cag...-hawk-scans/27

And the next 2 pages. The next two pages are supposed to be a double spread which would look like this: http://www.abload.de/img/eden1_032-33vujw.jpg

If the author didn't know the reason for the time travel he wouldn't draw the plane crash like this. He would draw it more 'ambiguous'.

And also, the fact that the dead pilot seems to have known "something" about the island and that he said they must get off of it or they couldn't ever return + the fact that the plane was undamaged which, by the pilots' comment, wasn't because of his skill, all point to the fact that the author knew, at least roughly, what exactly happened at the plane crash.
The circumstance surrounding the "crash" is definitely one of the unexplained plot points of the manga. It does give the impression that the author knew where the story was supposed to be heading, but the last chapters were just incredibly rushed without ever explaining such things as:

why there was a time skip;
how the plane landed without a scratch and what did the pilot know about it;
who is Hades; and
what is Arita's fate.

I can't think of a better reason than the manga was really getting canned and the author was only given a few chapters to wrap up the story...which is such a shame as it totally ruined an otherwise really solid manga.


BTW what are the chances of it getting animated?
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Old 2013-01-21, 20:02   Link #778
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Low, actually. The way adaptations work in Japan is that they're usually used to publicize the ongoing series. This one has gone kaput, so it's low the priority list for production committees.
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Old 2013-01-21, 20:48   Link #779
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The problem with the story is that the island can only carry it so far. When they reached the pyramid and confirmed all of the man made stuff, that took the information the kids could learn into a completely new direction. Most of the mystery about the island itself was known by the time they arrived at the living quarters. The author could have cut down on some of the fluff in the story, but it still required explanations that the island itself couldn't give. Just look at how much story Akira's mother helped fill in. The manga needed more of that.

In short, ending the story and getting the kids off the island was really the only logical way to end this in such a short time. If by chance a continuation happens, the story can explain the rest when they reach (whatever is left of) civilization. In fact, the story will probably be better off for it.
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Old 2013-01-21, 20:51   Link #780
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Holy fuck what an awful mess these last few chapters were.

Honestly I wish everyone was dead. At the very least there's actual closure to be had there.

Though this is nowhere near as bad as how that manga with the Otaku dad ended up.
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