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Old 2013-01-20, 22:52   Link #61
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Some of weaboo characteri defined in Indonesia:
- Thinks that Japan is a holy land, a superior country, a land with no flaw.
- Only listen to Japanesse song, thinking other country's music sucks.
- Add a lot of Japanesse slang word even not speaking with otaku (just only to sound cool). Eg "Oh, you are so kawaii with that dress." "This food is Oishii..." etc
- Didnt have much knowledge outside of "Japan". Even the knowledge of Japan comes from dorama / anime / manga.
- Easily to provoke when Japan is being ridiculed.

My friend has compiled a long list of weaboo characters in his FB, but this is the most common traits i believe i have encountered so far.
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Old 2013-01-20, 23:06   Link #62
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I honestly haven't given it much thought....

I suppose the term is perfectly acceptable for those that think Japan is some kind of land of perfection, and they regret not being born Japanese.

I use the term weeaboo pretty frequently though, in a comic manner. For example, "imma watch me some of those weird Chinese weeaboo cartoons!"
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Old 2013-01-20, 23:27   Link #63
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Funniest thing...he's local right? Are we here even yellow, more like fried under tropical sun until well done
I AM yellow. Or at least my skin tone is. Runs in the paternal side of the family that people think I have jaundice.

Most Asians are yellow I think, due to the Vit D surplus thanks to the equatorial sunlight.

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Are you going to use some term to label Lafcadio Hearn? He's like....the pinnacle, yet who can deny his success?
In 10 years time, that name will be history. Then we would know Vexx's real name from the banner of a Japanese private preschool/kindergarten.

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Some of weaboo characteri defined in Indonesia:
- Thinks that Japan is a holy land, a superior country, a land with no flaw.
- Only listen to Japanesse song, thinking other country's music sucks.
- Add a lot of Japanesse slang word even not speaking with otaku (just only to sound cool). Eg "Oh, you are so kawaii with that dress." "This food is Oishii..." etc
- Didnt have much knowledge outside of "Japan". Even the knowledge of Japan comes from dorama / anime / manga.
- Easily to provoke when Japan is being ridiculed.

My friend has compiled a long list of weaboo characters in his FB, but this is the most common traits i believe i have encountered so far.
People start out like that. Or at least a number of otaku I know start out so. Until they read about LDP, DPJ and the Japanese political scene
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Old 2013-01-20, 23:40   Link #64
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Both words, IMHO, despite being insulting -- best describe some fans who take their enthusiasm about Japan way too far as they live in an bubble of false ideals (I also recall that the Japanese suffered from a case of reality shock upon arriving in Paris, having been fed a falsified fantasy view of France in which Parisians look like fashion models and wear designer labels all the time).

The term Japanophile is, I think, used to say about those who are interested in Japanese culture but restrained, seriously academic, understands the reality of modern Japanese life (TBH, it's somewhat bleak over there, or could induce homesickness for some) and never delve into the usual cliches; some of them are very open-minded.

There's a world of difference between those two groups.

As for me, I'm just an anime viewer. And I still love my country.
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Old 2013-01-20, 23:51   Link #65
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There's also those who refuse to acknowledge how names are supposed to be pronounced, especially if the names are obviously not Japanese. I remember there used to be some debate about RAITO and LIGHT... And there's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VjSfnhCNm8
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Old 2013-01-20, 23:52   Link #66
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yeah, I'll take the label "japanophile" ... though I'm also a "nordophile" (Scandinavian culture) ... and a "germanophile" (germanic regions) ... heck, I'm fascinated by a number of cultures and read voraciously about all of them.
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Old 2013-01-20, 23:56   Link #67
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I do confess to having an admiration for Japanese Lean Manufacturing. Toyota is probably one of the best car companies around.
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Old 2013-01-21, 04:03   Link #68
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yeah, I'll take the label "japanophile" ... though I'm also a "nordophile" (Scandinavian culture) ... and a "germanophile" (germanic regions) ... heck, I'm fascinated by a number of cultures and read voraciously about all of them.
Yea, why is it only bad to like japanese stuff? You can be weeaboo and like anythng! racist
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Old 2013-01-21, 07:47   Link #69
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People start out like that. Or at least a number of otaku I know start out so. Until they read about LDP, DPJ and the Japanese political scene
Please...the general populace over there in Japan think their government is less effective than vapor. If anything turning green over their political scene identifies with them


You actually seemed.....sickly white to me....
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Old 2013-01-21, 07:58   Link #70
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I admit, I have once gone the path of weeaboo, until I learned about the dark sides of Japanese culture.

I'll be keeping my citizenship for good. Japanese culture is best enjoyed as a tourist.
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Old 2013-01-21, 08:12   Link #71
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I admit, I have once gone the path of weeaboo, until I learned about the dark sides of Japanese culture.

I'll be keeping my citizenship for good. Japanese culture is best enjoyed as a tourist.
Yep. Esp since Japan doesnt allow dual citizenship (a half japanese friend told me this).
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Old 2013-01-21, 08:20   Link #72
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Yea I've heard of Japanese trying to act black, which is just as bad if not worse (then again, chances that a Japanese black wannabe in Japan will annoy an actual black person to death with their misguided views on their culture are pretty low. Unfortunately in America I have seen some people hang out with other people, including Japanese, just because of their race, like they're collectable figurines or some shit).
It doesn't annoy us actually, its more just hilarious than anything, because they look. . .well ridiculous, AND they have the black style down. . .that was the style in 1995 Most black folks aren't worried about those guys. usually they are either REALLY FUNNY, or pretty chill

. . .but usually pretty funny

I remember when I went to Osaka (to escape the radiation -.-) met up with some friends there and went to a club, and we met these dudes tryin to act black, and first they said that one of us looked like ice cube, asked us if we had a gun, and was mimicking gun violence or whatever, saying yo yo yo, check it out etc. . .which SOUNDS pretty racist. . .but they just looked really ridiculous(we found it hilarious actually) especially upon finding out that they were in their mid 30s still living with their parents and really didn't have an actual job (they were working part time somewhere).(yeah living with your parents till marriage in Japan is a cultural thing but still) it was just hilarious!

there also ARE RICH kids that do this, and do it to the extreme, to the point where they buy low rider cars and cruise around Shibuya at night with their girls...

which looks pretty cool because. . .well you know they are rich!
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Old 2013-01-21, 08:54   Link #73
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I scanned this thread and there's one thing that bothers me here with some of the posts:

Since when was mimicking or copying another's movements, speech mannerisms and style without malice or demeaning the other, considered 'racist'?

And there's 1001 things I could add about 'racism' from the Japanese side (or rather, the narrow-mindedness) that would land half the country with a lawsuit if their actions were practised within the West (America)

But as someone mentioned earlier, Japan is a great country... as a tourist, starry-eyed and all, and this thread is for the 'white' side I believe.

However I will never get over my love or giddiness for samurai, geisha, kimono, hakama, ninjas and all things traditional despite living here for so long that my eyes have hardened and my mind is weary. Naruto is one of my life's inspiration, I'll keep my fangirlism until the very end
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Old 2013-01-21, 09:03   Link #74
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I scanned this thread and there's one thing that bothers me here with some of the posts:

Since when was mimicking or copying another's movements, speech mannerisms and style without malice or demeaning the other, considered 'racist'?
They are talking about the term
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Old 2013-01-21, 10:33   Link #75
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Please...the general populace over there in Japan think their government is less effective than vapor. If anything turning green over their political scene identifies with them
I would say that across the entire of East Asia, none of the governments are rather effective in anything, other than that of China - although they enforce their way through brutality.

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You actually seemed.....sickly white to me....
Hop over to the Cosplay thread for this.

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I scanned this thread and there's one thing that bothers me here with some of the posts:

Since when was mimicking or copying another's movements, speech mannerisms and style without malice or demeaning the other, considered 'racist'?
I don't know Madam. I never intended that. LeoXiao can back me on this as long as I find him a pretty onee-san to take him home. Will you like to be the one?

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And there's 1001 things I could add about 'racism' from the Japanese side (or rather, the narrow-mindedness) that would land half the country with a lawsuit if their actions were practised within the West (America)

But as someone mentioned earlier, Japan is a great country... as a tourist, starry-eyed and all, and this thread is for the 'white' side I believe.

However I will never get over my love or giddiness for samurai, geisha, kimono, hakama, ninjas and all things traditional despite living here for so long that my eyes have hardened and my mind is weary. Naruto is one of my life's inspiration, I'll keep my fangirlism until the very end
The only thing that intrigues me are how they wage war. Kyudo is as much an art as tea ceremony, and the philosophy of swordsplay bears incredible amounts of resemblance to that of the Chinese. They made the same dumb mistake of increasing the sword size to dual-purpose the weapon for both calvary and infantry (see the zanbatou for details), and they seem to have the same tenets of warfare (Art of War) in the same three-way war (Three-Kingdoms vs Sengoku).

Oh yes, the Art of War is a fun read. In its original language that is.
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Classic Japanese strategy book is Go Rin No Sho by Miyamoto Musashi...you can compare that to Sunzi's work
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Classic Japanese strategy book is Go Rin No Sho by Miyamoto Musashi...you can compare that to Sunzi's work
Attitudes of Swordsmanship under Book of Water has the exact same basic concepts as Wing Chun.

And Wing Chun has concepts which are similar to Krav Maga (actually summarised into only one - hit hard, hit fast, put him down, don't let him up), but Wing Chun's explanations are more long-winded (ironic that it goes against Bruce Lee's ideology of "hack away at the unnecessary").

There used to be this China kid in my class who was as intrigued in wuxia as I am (of course, being nerds we stick together; wuxia nerds are rare). I recommended him the English version of the Book of Five Rings, and then subsequently we were joking about how Miyamoto Musashi was actually the real-life Dugu Qiubai from Smiling Proud Wanderer.

Now I HAVE to learn Japanese to read the original essence of the work. Dammit.
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Old 2013-01-21, 12:09   Link #78
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Some of weaboo characteri defined in Indonesia:
- Thinks that Japan is a holy land, a superior country, a land with no flaw.
- Only listen to Japanesse song, thinking other country's music sucks.
- Add a lot of Japanesse slang word even not speaking with otaku (just only to sound cool). Eg "Oh, you are so kawaii with that dress." "This food is Oishii..." etc
- Didnt have much knowledge outside of "Japan". Even the knowledge of Japan comes from dorama / anime / manga.

- Easily to provoke when Japan is being ridiculed.

My friend has compiled a long list of weaboo characters in his FB, but this is the most common traits i believe i have encountered so far.
Those three are what annoys me the most. The second one, while it is not bad as other ones, is more cringe worthy.

The moment that pushed me to truly hate weaboo was when Hetalia came out. I was so disgusted with so many anime fan bashing Korea and it was my first time I begin to hate anime community. Granted most of the comments were Sankaku and they do not represent anime fandom, but ever since then I just hated weaboos.
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Old 2013-01-21, 12:35   Link #79
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These terms should be only used for those who are like "Oh my god the japanese version is SOOO much better, Samurai>Knights, NINJA FTW!"

You know the overobsessed american japanese fans.

But not in a hateful way, just a "Ugh, yea we get it you're a weeaboo"

Basicly what Azuma said.
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Old 2013-01-21, 12:57   Link #80
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I scanned this thread and there's one thing that bothers me here with some of the posts:

Since when was mimicking or copying another's movements, speech mannerisms and style without malice or demeaning the other, considered 'racist'?

And there's 1001 things I could add about 'racism' from the Japanese side (or rather, the narrow-mindedness) that would land half the country with a lawsuit if their actions were practised within the West (America)

But as someone mentioned earlier, Japan is a great country... as a tourist, starry-eyed and all, and this thread is for the 'white' side I believe.

However I will never get over my love or giddiness for samurai, geisha, kimono, hakama, ninjas and all things traditional despite living here for so long that my eyes have hardened and my mind is weary. Naruto is one of my life's inspiration, I'll keep my fangirlism until the very end
I'm not saying weeaboos are racist, though marginalizing a whole race into a tiny box of unrealistic and untrue expectations is pretty questionable. I'm saying the people who abuse the term against anyone who likes anything japanese are being racist. There're basically saying, "You can only like something about Japan if you're either japanese or extremely insane." Because everyone knows only insane people ever dare like any culture other than their own. The racism stems from how there are quite a few other cultures which are just as foreign yet "okay" to like, at least in my country. Just Asian cultures are weird to like, theuy say.

ntm there are some weird (imo racist) descriptions of the term, like saying only white people can be wapanese or non-japanese asians can't be unhealthily infatuated with japan (b/c its tots normal to like japan if your asian. But not others)
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Those three are what annoys me the most. The second one, while it is not bad as other ones, is more cringe worthy.

The moment that pushed me to truly hate weaboo was when Hetalia came out. I was so disgusted with so many anime fan bashing Korea and it was my first time I begin to hate anime community. Granted most of the comments were Sankaku and they do not represent anime fandom, but ever since then I just hated weaboos.
Ugh... the same thing happened when the first Korean Vocaloid singing software came out. Some Japanese on NicoNico decided to bring the software and its users down just because it was Korean, calling her a copy. What's even worse is that people on Youtueb started mass downvoting that Vocaloid's videos there as well, just because the Japanese were hating on her.

And I remember that Hetalia mess. Didn't it start because an episode of the anime showed some twisted version of the Rape of Nanking and made it out to be funny or Korea's fault or something? Though I commend the author for being able to poke fun at everybody with his country characters, I think he (or the anime director) should have known which spots were too sensitive to touch. Weird b/c the anime didnt even show in South Korea...

And yea, Sankaku is full of grossly biased and uninformed opinions. Swore off that place when I read people laughing at cosplays and calling them terrible just because it wasn't Asians doing them (wtf?!).

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