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Old 2013-01-23, 10:13   Link #2221
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thats pretty much death flag but will Kubo kill her tho? i mean in this arc byakuya goes like this

Foreshadow->Death flag -> death blow ->death blow again->another death blow-> death->no really he is dead-> look his dead dead-> Look he really is completely super dead dead dead-> actually he is ok ->used phoenix down and made it to the church for full heal.

so is death flag still valid at this point?
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Old 2013-01-23, 10:49   Link #2222
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What a beautifully drawn chapter. Great poses, wonderful shadowing, and some good choreography. Good job Kubo.
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Old 2013-01-23, 10:58   Link #2223
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^ I agree. It's one of the better drawn chapters.
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Old 2013-01-23, 12:28   Link #2224
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When Kenpachi was cornered wasn't his sword away from him in the ground? How'd he get it back?
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Old 2013-01-23, 12:43   Link #2225
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The sword through his throat was "killing intent". The stronger opponent (Unohana) is so overwhelming that the weaker opponent (Zaraki) imagines his death. It feels so real, that when he realizes he's still alive, it becomes jarring and he wonders what just happened.

Yes, Zaraki, as he is right now, is weak. I'd actually say he's been getting weaker since he lost to Ichigo way back in the SS arc.

And the group who does these speed translations is awful. The blacks make the pages nearly unreadable and the dialogue is poor. Definitely rereading this later today when a better version is out.
No that wasn't killing intent at all. That really happened. The blood that splatters is over Unohana's face after Kenpachi regains consciousness is still there from when she stabbed him. Her final statement kind of confirms it.
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Old 2013-01-23, 13:17   Link #2226
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yea it seemed to me like unohana actually killed him and he came back to life. that explains her sarcastic 'you lost consciousness' line. also, it's heavily eluded to that he's immortal in this chapter so it makes sense to kill him in the reveal chapter to prove the point. plus, like Calca says, the blood spatter stays on her cheek. my guess is that unohana will kill zaraki several times during this fight since it will make him stronger when he comes back to life

this chapter was awesome. it really makes me want to see it animated
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Old 2013-01-23, 13:43   Link #2227
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So...Kenpachi is a Saiyan? :3
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Old 2013-01-23, 14:02   Link #2228
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So...Kenpachi is a Saiyan? :3
That seems fair considering Ichigo is a mix of Shinigami, human, Hollow, Fullbring and Quincy.
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Old 2013-01-23, 15:34   Link #2229
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Hmm...so to what extent is Zaraki "immortal"? Will he come back if you slice his head off or destroy his body? Or does he have Aizen/Alucard levels of "immortality" where he could keep coming back no matter what kind of damage he sustains? Because recovering fatal stab wounds is one thing. But to recover from the aforementioned types of injuries seems like something much more incredible (and unbelievable without any sort of explanation).
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Old 2013-01-23, 16:39   Link #2230
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Retsu is a master healer maybe she gave him some sort of near godlike ability to recover from near fatal wounds.
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Old 2013-01-23, 20:04   Link #2231
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As long as Kenpachi doesn't sing ever again I am okay with a new powerup. Maybe he could learn bankai like all Captains. Still killing one of their strongest Shinigami just for this seems too exaggerated.
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Old 2013-01-24, 03:36   Link #2232
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If Kenpachi is immortal would that instantly make him the strongest fighter of the series? Even more than Ichigo.
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Old 2013-01-24, 06:14   Link #2233
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If Kenpachi is immortal would that instantly make him the strongest fighter of the series? Even more than Ichigo.
No, immortality doesn't mean strength. They can still be incapacitated or restrained. Look at Aizen.
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Old 2013-01-24, 06:49   Link #2234
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No, immortality doesn't mean strength. They can still be incapacitated or restrained. Look at Aizen.
Aren't shinigami's immortal by definition? I may be mis-understanding but er..aren't they already dead? As in, aren't they souls that can use reiatsu?
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Old 2013-01-24, 06:51   Link #2235
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Aren't shinigami's immortal by definition? I may be mis-understanding but er..aren't they already dead? As in, aren't they souls that can use reiatsu?
They can die in soul society again to be reborn in the world.
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Old 2013-01-24, 06:59   Link #2236
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They can die in soul society again to be reborn in the world.
wtf. That seems like a pretty strange system. World > SS > Back to world > back to SS > Rinse and repeat? If the people that end up in this system keep their memories, I feel kind of bad for them. At least they don't turn into space particles for eternity or something. Though, one thing that baffles me is, when they reincarnate, for example, if Kenpachi died, and rebirthed as a human and died again would he go back to being Kenpachi or someone else? Even more interesting is what would happen to Ichigo.
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Old 2013-01-24, 12:35   Link #2237
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That's how it's been from the start. It's essentially the reason why the quincy were exterminated. Their abilities destroy the soul and break the cycle of rebirth, which disrupts the balance of souls.
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Old 2013-01-24, 15:20   Link #2238
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Aren't shinigami's immortal by definition? I may be mis-understanding but er..aren't they already dead? As in, aren't they souls that can use reiatsu?
In Bleach, the soul is not an immortal being. They can be damaged and even destroyed...permanently. So no, shinigami's are not immortal by definition.
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Old 2013-01-24, 16:28   Link #2239
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That's a really late question to ask after all this chapters...
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Old 2013-01-24, 17:51   Link #2240
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Maybe Kenpachi isn't immortal at all, maybe Unahona has death defying healing abilities. Remember back in SS arc when she healed Momo and Hitsu that both had fatal wounds? She could have a healing bankai. It would seem odd to put one of your strongest captains into the healing focused squad, unless her healing ability was as good, if not better, than her combat ability.

Just some speculation
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