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Old 2013-01-20, 21:57   Link #401
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Tenchu is more of a ninja stealth game which pretty much makes you to a real ninja, though there are exaggeration like powers, demons, time travel and so on. Though you can indeed go strait ahead and just kill off enemies it will rank you low.

Anyways here's the FIRST MGR - Metal Gear Raiden Snake Eraser.

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Old 2013-01-21, 08:36   Link #402
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The case of Metal Gear Solid 2's Raiden has been studied by several books and they get deep.
*http://www.digra.org/dl/db/05150.07598.pdf

*Utopic Dreams and Apocalyptic Fantasies
*Avatars of Story
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Old 2013-01-21, 08:57   Link #403
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Tomorrow is the 22nd for my timezone, but I get the feeling I'll have to wait yet another day for the demo to be release =_=
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Old 2013-01-21, 18:24   Link #404
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already got the zone of enders MGSR demo. Iam awaiting the full game.
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Old 2013-01-21, 20:41   Link #405
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The case of Metal Gear Solid 2's Raiden has been studied by several books and they get deep.
*http://www.digra.org/dl/db/05150.07598.pdf

*Utopic Dreams and Apocalyptic Fantasies
*Avatars of Story
The problem is that it deceived the paying customer. It is one thing to sell a complex story, it is another to lie to your customer on what they are buying.

If I bought a comic book but found War and Peace being the actual content of the volume, I would not say I was rewarded with good literature. MGS2 was too clever in that Kojima thought he doesn't have to care about what the buyer wants.

The insult added to injury is that the game start screen switches from a picture of Snake to Raiden once you finished the game. So you bought a game thinking you were buying a Solid Snake game, but once you finished you realised it was all a deliberate lie. There was no misunderstanding; kojima wants to preach to the gamer that he doesn't have the right to be Solid Snake.
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Old 2013-01-22, 00:03   Link #406
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^because he wanted a younger audience so he made Raiden, but it didn't appeal to the people and they wanted Solid Snake. Kojima learned this lesson.

One reason why Raiden was so butchered in MGS3 and made into a comic character.
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Old 2013-01-22, 00:38   Link #407
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But look at him now!
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Old 2013-01-22, 00:49   Link #408
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^because he wanted a younger audience so he made Raiden, but it didn't appeal to the people and they wanted Solid Snake. Kojima learned this lesson.

One reason why Raiden was so butchered in MGS3 and made into a comic character.
As I say, the main issue is that he didn't tell people what he was doing until they already bought the game.
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But look at him now!
MGS:R is exactly as advertised. The problem with MGS2 was never about Raiden; the problem was trying to sell something under false pretences.

The thing is, MGS2 as a story only makes sense if the player actually expected to play as Snake. So Kojima HAS to deceive his own customers to make his point. But you really can't treat your paying customers like a social experiment like that. He overstep his bounds and didn't realise that he insulted people.
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Old 2013-01-22, 01:10   Link #409
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As I say, the main issue is that he didn't tell people what he was doing until they already bought the game.
He wanted it to be a surprise, but instead it backfired because people wanted to play as Solid Snake.

Which he learned from MGS2 to not keep people in the dark anymore if there are new characters.

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But look at him now!
Now a Cyborg Ninja with high heels.
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Old 2013-01-22, 02:30   Link #410
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You know, since we changed Devil May Cry 5 to DmC, maybe we should do the same for Rising ?
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Old 2013-01-22, 03:04   Link #411
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Let's change Mario as well to this http://sadpanda.us/images/1364168-S16XZ3T.jpg

Either way I'm very glad this game brought something new to the table slicing almost anything in the way you want.

Also NT kissing Kamiya's butt. Didn't they know that kamiya is not involved with MGR? lol makes them laughable.

http://www.vg247.com/2011/12/12/kami...l-gear-rising/

then they tweet this

http://sadpanda.us/images/1361875-NC78O9H.jpg


Also more gaming journalism

http://www.oxm.co.uk/48910/previews/...came-a-badass/
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Old 2013-01-22, 09:44   Link #412
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NT and Kamiya sitting on a tree!
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Old 2013-01-22, 17:50   Link #413
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Let's all download the Demo and try!

Btw, whens PC demo?
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Old 2013-01-23, 08:04   Link #414
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@#$%!

....I don't think I'm getting the demo this week for my region... Reason being that the Dead Space 3 demo has only just arrived on my PSN...
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Old 2013-01-23, 10:02   Link #415
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Create an US PSN account and download the demo there.
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Old 2013-01-23, 10:06   Link #416
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UK also got it as well, its a 3.43 GB download btw.
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Old 2013-01-23, 11:01   Link #417
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I have the demo which came with ZoE HD but I don't plan on playing it. I rather wait for the full game as to not spoil myself of anything.

I've been hearing good things about the demo from friends though.
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Old 2013-01-23, 11:04   Link #418
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Mine's 1.8GB (360)

Anyways, I liked this hack n slash... very technical and at the same time beautiful;
Only thing that annoyed me was the camera >_>
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Old 2013-01-23, 11:23   Link #419
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The PS3 demo is 3.4 GB. Less compression for movies or something.

Yeah the camera is a little bit annoying. But this game is so awesome.

Parrying attacks and slicing things makes so much fun. And the music when fighting against the Blade Wolf is just badass.

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Old 2013-01-23, 11:59   Link #420
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It's fantastic. I just wish they include Hard difficulty in the demo, as normal is quite easy even for the first timer as me. I've heard some people complain about the control, but I think they are quite easy to learn and Blade Mode surprisingly not hard to utilize.

I really love the boss BGM.
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