[Manga] Naruto Chapter 617 Discussion Thread

[Hasumi]

When did Orochimaru's head get transplanted onto Juugo's body?

[Dengar]

When did weird things happen in this manga that make no sense whatsoever?

[amaterasu4]

When did we start making so many questions?

Also, remember that Juugo became a lot younger when fighting Killer Bee. Even the Japanese actor changed the tone. Orochi was always tall.

[Casshern]

I just hope that shit will hit the fan soon because this konoha fan-wank reads like a bad fanfic.

['Pryde]

Madara should just Amaterasu everyone.

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by b1gdawg

Don't forget, when Minato used the reaper death seal, he took half of the kyuubi's chakra with him. So if Oro can infact revive all 4 kage's i think either Minato will himself have some Kyuubi Chakra, or it will be restored to the Kurama (as if he doesn't have enough already)

yea exactly. i think it would go back to kurama and serve as a power up for naruto and perhaps some of the alliance when they need one again.

Originally Posted by Artimus_Prime

i really dont understand how this is suppose to work. i mean to summon the death god is certain suicide (at least that what we have been shown).

well yea. i'm assuming the scroll would contain a different method.

so some extreme sealing prowess would be needed to get to the former hokages in the first place which is why i think they may be in Uzushiogakure (perhaps even to speak with an elder uzumaki). at the very least sasuke doesnt know where they are so they are not in konoha...

its not that he doesnt know where they are. he's asking if they are at the right place. also it was shown they are in konoha. they might be on the outskirts (it looks like the old uchiha village to me) but wherever it is exactly, it is in or right around konoha

[sayde]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

he would have had to leave a little of his chakra behind somewhere or in some line of ninja (uchiha most likely) to observe events like orochimaru and minato did after they 'died'. i dont think thats what happened though, im just saying its possible.

Still, that sounds plausible enough, even if it doesn't end up being the case. Thanks for the reply. Not sure why I didn't remember Oro and Minato doing similar things.

[Ero-Senn1n]

Originally Posted by 'Pryde

Madara should just Amaterasu everyone.

By this time it's obvious that he doesn't want to do anything. He was just working on strengthening his link to the 10-tails, so all he did was make the 10-tails do some moves. But now that the link is broken he has to either admit that he doesn't want to help Obito's plan unless Obito resurrects him sacrificing his own life or he has to fight like he did against the 5 kages. BTW if Naruto can power up the kages (assuming they were healed by Tsunade by now) it would be interesting to see a round two. The tsuchikage's particle beam powered by kyuubi-naruto chakra vs the 10-tails' beam of chakra, etc.

[jayala319]

All this questions are making my head spin..

I think is possible the person that knows everything is the sage of the paths and assuming sasuke is also a reincarnation of the sage (Tobi says something about himself being one, madara being the first, and nagato the third. I believe he said it when he went to retrieve the rinnegan and killed konan) he could be planning to stop Tobi and when he sees that madara is also "alive" he could end up absorbing obito and madara like what he did to orochimaru and end up controlling the power of juubi or becoming jinchuuriki and this way set the path for the next arc.

If they are in konoha, it would make sense the one they are going to see the is the sage because konoha was founded by his own blood, the hashirama and the uchiha.


I assume saseku is a reencarnation because Tobi protects him too much, the same way madara save obito and made him his "partner". If that happens then we can safely assume naruto is also one. Given the fact he is uzumaki, same as nagato. And also the tailed beasts gave him their trust... Right?

I think the one they are going to see is the sag

[Artimus_Prime]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

well yea. i'm assuming the scroll would contain a different method.

yeah this is what im getting at. currently nobody in this lil gang is equipped to actually execute the method. yeah they may be heading to another of oro's labs, but i just want to believe at some point the uzumaki sealing abilties will reenter the story which is why i thiiiinnk they have ended up in uzushio...yes we did see the hokage monument, i just feel like the introductions of those capes may suggest a change in geography...just speculating obviously

Originally Posted by Ero-Senn1n

By this time it's obvious that he doesn't want to do anything. He was just working on strengthening his link to the 10-tails, so all he did was make the 10-tails do some moves. But now that the link is broken he has to either admit that he doesn't want to help Obito's plan unless Obito resurrects him sacrificing his own life or he has to fight like he did against the 5 kages. BTW if Naruto can power up the kages (assuming they were healed by Tsunade by now) it would be interesting to see a round two. The tsuchikage's particle beam powered by kyuubi-naruto chakra vs the 10-tails' beam of chakra, etc.

1. my hope is that now the link is broke they have effectively created 3 (or at least 2) separate battles. obito needs to be dealt with. the kages are definitely healed so a round two (or is it three) should be popping...i'd like to think that since the juubi needed to be defeated by the power of the sage, (unless it peters out from incomplete chakra) the same power would be needed to defeat this time around as well.

2. i mentioned something like this earlier in the thread, but now im thinking they would more likely rematch madara and having naruto plus whoever, take out the juubi...

[gibits]

My hope is that naruto becomes the vessel for the Juubi.

[Kenu]

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

Good for Lee! After so much of time being an extra, he kicks Madara Godtier Uchiha.

Lee looks cool, but ultimately useless move since Madara just regenerates. Unless someone can do another seal on him, he'll just come back immortal.


You know after reading thus far, I can now understand why Danzou and the old farts decided to order a hit on the Uchiha clan.. they are so freaking annoying. Obito, Madara.. They are neither good or interesting villains anymore.

[Hasumi]

Well sure Orochimaru is tall, but he looks like Bane in that last panel.

When did he get so damn ripped.

[Dengar]

Maybe this new body just has its perks.

[The Small One]

Originally Posted by Kenu

Lee looks cool, but ultimately useless move since Madara just regenerates. Unless someone can do another seal on him, he'll just come back immortal.

It wasn't the goal of the attack to get rid of Obito or Madara. They just wanted to sever the link of those two to the Juubi, which they did.
Though it makes me wonder if this was a good idea. Without those two, who knows what the Juubi is going to do now. It doesn't need to care about hurting someone.

Though interessting, that Obito could phase himself out of the Rasenshuriken, but not the link between his human main body and the Juubi, which actually is also a part of his body.

[Artimus_Prime]

Originally Posted by Hasumi

Well sure Orochimaru is tall, but he looks like Bane in that last panel.

When did he get so damn ripped.

Originally Posted by Dengar

Maybe this new body just has its perks.

that rope belt thing he wears comes up to about shoulder height in the back. perhaps that is whats making his shoulder so broad........

[b1gdawg]

Anybody know if they said anything about Oro's Arms? Can he use them or are they still currently sealed? I remember Suigetsu telling Sasuke that the only reason he was able to beat him was because Oro's arms were sealed.

Also, does Naruto have any Uchiha DNA in him? I know Itachi hid that crow with Shisui's eye in it but after he used it against Kabuto's edo tensei he sealed Nagato then destroyed the eye with amaterasu, but i was thinking that Naruto might unlock the rinnegan soon since he's part Senju. But since Itachi killed that crow, probably the only way of naruto unlocking the rinnegan is by sasuke giving him his eye's or something.

[Dengar]

I'm not quite sure whether his arms were still sealed.

Didn't he already use various jutsu after swapping bodies with that unnamed guy? You know, the one he went with since Sasuke didn't make it in time?

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by The Small One

IThough interessting, that Obito could phase himself out of the Rasenshuriken, but not the link between his human main body and the Juubi, which actually is also a part of his body.

he actually wasn't fast enough. his body and arm was severed in half although there is an artwork discrepancy there since in the next panel his arm is back on. i think the point of the rasenshuriken and super-powered lee was that they were too fast for obito and madara to do anything and it caught them by surprise. both villains are fine though i'm sure. it just momentarily severed their connection to the juubi. they can both regenerate

Originally Posted by b1gdawg

Anybody know if they said anything about Oro's Arms? Can he use them or are they still currently sealed?

they are still sealed in the death god

Also, does Naruto have any Uchiha DNA in him?

no he has no uchiha dna. naruto can't develop rinnegan and i doubt he would ever take sasuke's eyes even if sasuke offered, but thats probably the only way he would ever get rinnegan. i dont really see naruto ever having rinnegan. it's more of a sasuke ability than a naruto one

[Dengar]

In the end, the Rinnegan is a utility power. Since when has Naruto been about utility jutsu? Those are more Sasuke's thing.