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Old 2013-01-29, 12:38   Link #2301
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Biggest ironies of these training runs? The Cromwell can apparently clear the jump, but the ELC can't.
The great misteries of life.

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On a side note, I feel disturbing the number of kamikaze awards that i'm getting with the Pz III/IV. It doest help that last night I killed a Easy 8 ramming him at full speed (I survived)
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Old 2013-01-29, 16:47   Link #2302
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In case any MUP members haven't heard, we have designated the T-34 and T-34/85 as the clan tanks. Possession of one or more of these tanks is strongly suggested, so please set aside a garage and some time to grind them. We will be using them in clan events.

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... But anyway, lets work on those two vehicles for now, the T-34 & T-34-85. We will figure out what to do... afterwards

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Old 2013-01-29, 16:59   Link #2303
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Does that include the Chinese variation?
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Old 2013-01-29, 17:11   Link #2304
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Old 2013-01-29, 17:19   Link #2305
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In case any MUP members haven't heard, we have designated the T-34 and T-34/85 as the clan tanks. Possession of one or more of these tanks is mandatory, so please set aside a garage and some time to grind them. We will be using them in clan events.
..Objection. I did not sign up for a dictatorship! I'll be happy to play Tier 5's and 6's but I don't want to start a fourth country's tech tree!
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Old 2013-01-29, 17:26   Link #2306
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willx: Please, I'm going through FIVE tech trees. :P

I don't have a problem with the T-34 (already have one in Elite status), but the T-34/85 is going to be pretty painful given how the MM works.
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Old 2013-01-29, 17:36   Link #2307
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Interesting that you mention that, because lately I've been doing that exact same thing with pencil and paper. And sure enough, my win rate, although still bad, has been rising since I started doing that.
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Old 2013-01-29, 17:38   Link #2308
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willx: Please, I'm going through FIVE tech trees. :P

I don't have a problem with the T-34 (already have one in Elite status), but the T-34/85 is going to be pretty painful given how the MM works.
Five countries I'm going more paths than that.. let's see:

Germany Heavies x 2
German Mediums (either x 1 or x 2)
German Arties
U.S. Autoloaders
British Mediums
British Heavies

That also doesn't include "one-offs" like the King Leopard and my Grille
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Old 2013-01-29, 17:39   Link #2309
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I believe I've made my stance on Soviet tanks clear on several occasions.

For that matter, VK 3601 (H) is the master of Tier 6. Why some people chose the T-34-85 is beyond me.
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Old 2013-01-29, 17:58   Link #2310
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I just got enough XP to get the T-43 after a bunch of unpleasant fighting in the T-34-85. Not planning on keeping the -85, it's so average that it's average.

But I kinda also already said this in the MuP group, so to add more content...

I'm trying to maintain my tenuous grip on my 51% win rate, without worrying about how I get there (and, as we discovered, without having to game the system in training rooms). This means making up for all those screwed-by-MM games in the T-34-85 with relatively easier play elsewhere.

I'm trying to avoid XVM (though it seems that using it confers a number of tertiary advantages like minimap mods and giant audio Sixth Sense warnings) because of the whole stats-grubbing factor, though.
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Old 2013-01-29, 18:09   Link #2311
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I have the VK 3601 H, and while my stats on it aren't anything to write home about (46% win rate), at least I'm used to it (the fact it has decent armor and HP doesn't hurt). The T-34/85 is, by all accounts, outgunned and under-armored at its tier, which might... hurt a bit.
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Old 2013-01-29, 18:10   Link #2312
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Does that include the Chinese variation?
Yeah. But we don't want no Type 58s, those are terribad.

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..Objection. I did not sign up for a dictatorship! I'll be happy to play Tier 5's and 6's but I don't want to start a fourth country's tech tree!
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I believe I've made my stance on Soviet tanks clear on several occasions.
Oh, that's okay, I totally understand! Why don't you two have a seat right over here for a little bit of re-education?

More seriously, we can't actually force anyone to get a T-34, and tbh I'm not sure it's a great idea to choose the T-34/85 as a mainstay tank anyhow. I was kind of of the opinion that in a TC those who are using tier 6 should bring whatever they're good with and the rest be the T-34 standard. Anyone who has ideas about this should come to the MUP group for further discussion.
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Old 2013-01-29, 18:14   Link #2313
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Why you should always protect artillery:








Ram through, take out artillery, cap for victory. A clean victory.
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Old 2013-01-29, 19:44   Link #2314
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I'm not sure it's a great idea to choose the T-34/85 as a mainstay tank anyhow.
It isn't. Quite frankly I'd rather have a bunch of T-34s (they are great Tier Vs) fighting alongside a few allocation of KV-1s.

Either that, or we can always go with Panzer IVs

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Old 2013-01-29, 19:45   Link #2315
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Ram through, take out artillery, cap for victory. A clean victory.
I take it you used the Ensk metropolitan rail?

E50 - When retreating (to the enemy base) is the best option
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It isn't. Quite frankly I'd rather have a bunch of T-34s (they are great Tier Vs) fighting alongside a few allocation of KV-1s.
Hence the addition of VKs.
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Old 2013-01-29, 19:56   Link #2316
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Hence the addition of VKs.
I dub this the:

Molotov–Ribbentrop Formation.

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Old 2013-01-29, 20:02   Link #2317
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If we're focusing on Champion TCs, we're inevitably going to meet teams with KV-1S as their mainstay tank (some of us here may know what I'm talking about). I've thought about some possible tactics to use against such teams, knowing that no other tank in Tier VI can match, or have sufficient armour against, such a combination of mobility and firepower.

My conclusion is that, instead of trying to slug it out with KV-1S teams (a losing proposition), we need to outdo that particular tank in both of its strengths.

So what I've come up with is this; 3 or 4 KV-2s equipped with the 152, to hold a particular spot with hard cover and cause the entire attacking team of KV-1S to get pinned in position for fear of the megaderp. The rest of the team? 105 derp equipped Easy Eights, to flank them and cause disarray in their ranks.


Thoughts?
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Old 2013-01-29, 20:15   Link #2318
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Heh, megaderp.

Can't comment on the Easy-8, but since I am shelling out cash for extra garage space in a day or two, I might consider giving it a spot for my new tier 6s (Cromwell and AMX 12t aside).
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Old 2013-01-29, 20:16   Link #2319
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I dub this the:

Molotov–Ribbentrop Formation.

- Tak
In GuP terms please! Die Schwarz-Pravda Sturmkompanie/Штурмовая Рота шварцского-Правдой.

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Old 2013-01-29, 20:20   Link #2320
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I dub this the:

Molotov–Ribbentrop Formation.

- Tak
Quickly, patent the idea!

Also from my PoV, the T-34 is not one of the best Tier 5 mediums, but in packs they can do a LOT. The 57mm is a GODDAMN buzzsaw (1.9 reload time with crew 100%, rammer & vents). The downsides are: weak acceleration, tendency to get tracked very often, ammorack is everywhere, and the engine is the first thing to get taken out.

The T-34/85 is actually one of the best Tier 6 mediums IMO, and they are specially deadly when in wolfpacks. Decent acceleration & top speed, can equip the same gun of the T-43, and it doesn't see more than tier 8. Also its turret is infamous for being bouncy. Unfortunately it has the very same flaws than his predecesor, and is a moving ammorack.
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