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Old 2013-02-03, 00:04   Link #24041
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well accelarator had said it that

`This was something superior even to Last Order who was the command tower.'
We don't know it's Full-Tuning, he simply refer to it as the 'Will of the Network'- even then he might not be correct.
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Old 2013-02-03, 00:13   Link #24042
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well accelarator had said it that

`This was something superior even to Last Order who was the command tower.'
well Full-Tuning might be the missing level 5 number 6

~~if she is really full-tuned then her power might be of a level 5(?)
and her specialty might be `information manipulator' she might be the one that control the rumor going around academy city??! well she could easily control information considering she is a elrctro-master...!!
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Old 2013-02-03, 00:18   Link #24043
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How about actually reading instead of pulling out insanely stupid suggestions?
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Old 2013-02-03, 00:20   Link #24044
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well Full-Tuning might be the missing level 5 number 6

~~if she is really full-tuned then her power might be of a level 5(?)
and her specialty might be `information manipulator' she might be the one that control the rumor going around academy city??! well she could easily control information considering she is a elrctro-master...!!
That would be a bit hard to swallow because though WE don't know anything about the Number 6, the characters themselves have at least heard of all of them- even Judgement people know enough to start looking for him or her.
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Old 2013-02-03, 00:21   Link #24045
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We don't know it's Full-Tuning, he simply refer to it as the 'Will of the Network'- even then he might not be correct.
full-tuning is also a clone.......she might be `misaka#0' that the misaka's talking about ?!
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Old 2013-02-03, 00:24   Link #24046
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full-tuning is also a clone.......she might be `misaka#0' that the misaka's talking about ?!
....Yes, Full-Tuning is the #0000 unit, but what has that got to do with the supposed 'Will of the Network' ?
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Old 2013-02-03, 00:31   Link #24047
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That would be a bit hard to swallow because though WE don't know anything about the Number 6, the characters themselves have at least heard of all of them- even Judgement people know enough to start looking for him or her.
the character( i mean the top espers) themselves dont know all of them i guess... like when gunha and mikoto fight they did not know that both of them are level 5...maybe they just know that there are 7 level 5 maybe the top 1,2,3,4 and 5 know each other because they are involve on the academy dark side ?!
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Old 2013-02-03, 00:35   Link #24048
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....Yes, Full-Tuning is the #0000 unit, but what has that got to do with the supposed 'Will of the Network' ?

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We don't know it's Full-Tuning, he simply refer to it as the 'Will of the Network'- even then he might not be correct.
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Old 2013-02-03, 00:35   Link #24049
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I don't think Miko knowns how urban legend superhero looks like though.

Also, why do people think FT is the will of the network already? I was out the last few days so I can't really follow.
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Old 2013-02-03, 00:37   Link #24050
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Also, why do people think FT is the will of the network already? I was out the last few days so I can't really follow.

It's just a speculation, nothing more.

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We don't know it's Full-Tuning, he simply refer to it as the 'Will of the Network'- even then he might not be correct.
Well yes I get that much, but when did Misaka said anything about unit #0000 during the whole 'Will of the Network' dialogue?

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full-tuning is also a clone.......she might be `misaka#0' that the misaka's talking about ?!
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Old 2013-02-03, 00:53   Link #24051
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It's just a speculation, nothing more.



Well yes I get that much, but when did Misaka said anything about unit #0000 during the whole 'Will of the Network' dialogue?
ohh... sorry it's `misaka's'. and `but when did Misaka said anything about unit #0000 during the whole 'Will of the Network' dialogue? " when???? in the past volume uhmm maybe in the series or the side story ??? i cant remember where i read it.....there a new update on manga To Aru Majutsu no Index chapter 54
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Old 2013-02-03, 01:09   Link #24052
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ohh... sorry it's `misaka's'. and `but when did Misaka said anything about unit #0000 during the whole 'Will of the Network' dialogue? " when???? in the past volume uhmm maybe in the series or the side story ??? i cant remember where i read it.....there a new update on manga To Aru Majutsu no Index chapter 54
The question is, was there ever? Emphasis on that last word so that you think about the current state of information available in canon right now.
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Old 2013-02-03, 01:11   Link #24053
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The question is, was there ever?
yes there is!!! my memory is quite good i remembered the dialogue that i read it just that i dont give a fuck about the chapter and volume


the misaka's exchanging information through the network when one of the `misaka' ask if there someone know anything about misaka#0000 but no one have any information of where she is or what happened to her..........ugh i cant remember what happened next!! ( - _-)"'

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Old 2013-02-03, 01:13   Link #24054
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Right, that concludes this session.
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Old 2013-02-03, 01:17   Link #24055
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The question is, was there ever? Emphasis on that last word so that you think about the current state of information available in canon right now.
Emphasis on that last word so that you think about the current state of information available in canon right now. ???????

could you state it more clearly ?!!!
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Old 2013-02-03, 01:35   Link #24056
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Full-Tuning was mentioned only once in the novels: SS2 Chapter 13.

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“…Actually, the project that created the Misakas was split between two stages: the Radio Noise Project and the Level 6 Shift Project, says Misaka #10032 as she lets things get even more complicated within her head. Which project’s acceptance should be under consideration?”

“Well, shouldn’t that just be whichever one was first? says Misaka #10039 as she vaguely expresses her estimation.”

“Technically, the former wanted a full Level 5 and the latter wanted mass produced experimental subjects, so getting a proper definition may be difficult, says Misaka #13577 as she stealthily adds to the confusion.”

“Come to think of it, whatever happened to Full Tuning, #00000, who was created by Amai Ao and cut off from the network? says Misaka #19090 as she lays out a new piece of foreshadowing.”
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There's no way someone can answer this kind of question on the spot in less than 4 minutes ... with a quote ...
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I picture full tuning as someone who is stronger than your mass produce clones. Prototypes tends to have lots of problems before its been launch. But usually its been pack up with lots of punch so it can be appealing and steadily stabilize so it can be mass produce.
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...'as she lays out a new piece of foreshadowing' ?

Subtle as always Kamachi.

But seriously, doesn't this sort of proves that whatever that thing that took over Last Order couldn't be Full-Tuning since she was removed from the network?
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Old 2013-02-03, 01:46   Link #24057
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Right, that concludes this session.
well this session i still know it full well its still fresh in my mind
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Old 2013-02-03, 01:57   Link #24058
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How does a clone get cut off from the network. If I remember correctly the Misaka Network was form due to them having similar brainwaves frequency and their electromaster ability. So how can they remove Full Tuning from the network.

The way I see it there are a few possibilities:
  1. Full Tuning was killed.
  2. Full Tuning had her brainwaves forcefully altered until they don't match the other sisters.
  3. Full Tuning is superior to Last Order so could forcefully cut herself from the network (highly unlikely though).
  4. Full Tuning herself had a unique personality which cause her to have a brainwave frequency different from the sisters so she couldn't connect to the network (like Mikoto who also could not connect to the network)
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Old 2013-02-03, 01:58   Link #24059
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Full-Tuning was mentioned only once in the novels: SS2 Chapter 13.



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yeah cut off but it does not mean she cant connect to it since they have the same brainwaves and its been since ss2 so who know what happened to her..

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Old 2013-02-03, 03:56   Link #24060
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How does a clone get cut off from the network. If I remember correctly the Misaka Network was form due to them having similar brainwaves frequency and their electromaster ability. So how can they remove Full Tuning from the network.

The way I see it there are a few possibilities:
  1. Full Tuning was killed.
  2. Full Tuning had her brainwaves forcefully altered until they don't match the other sisters.
  3. Full Tuning is superior to Last Order so could forcefully cut herself from the network (highly unlikely though).
  4. Full Tuning herself had a unique personality which cause her to have a brainwave frequency different from the sisters so she couldn't connect to the network (like Mikoto who also could not connect to the network)
You're forgetting something important. When the clones are born, they are not connected to the network, it's until after Testament is used on them that they become able to do so. This is the reason Mikoto can't connect to it, it has nothing to do with her personality.

Dunno exactly how Testament accomplishes it, it might be something different than altering the brainwaves, but my guess would be that a clone could be removed from the network using it again to partially or fully reverse the adjustment.
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