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Old 2006-01-22, 19:14   Link #181
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It's sad to see the fall of Suiseiseki and Kanaria. Kanaria has gained respect from the audience for her determination to protect Suiseiseki's Rosa Mysticas. Although Bara eventually got their Rosa Mystica in the expense of her right hand, I can't wait to see how Shinku would turn tables around when she releases her crimson of anger. To me, I find it difficult to predict the ending. I shared the same thoughts that Shinku will be the winner of Alice Game but she will not want to be Alice. I also want to know what does the OP screenshot about Shinku having tea with Jun (in the garden) implies. What will happen to Shinku if she do not want to take all the Rosa Mysticas from the defeated dolls? How will she go about resurrecting the other dolls? I hope the last episode will wrap things up nicely.
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Old 2006-01-22, 21:06   Link #182
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I find Barasuisho to be a boring villain and even more boring Rozen Maiden. Yes, she's strong, and yes, she has style, but she has no personality beyond filial piety. (Even that's a stretch, since Rozen probably designed her to be hell bent on the Alice game.) At least Suigintou had character development, as well as her token psycho chuckle/giggle/snicker. I look forward to seeing Shinku choke Bara next episode.

I know it's a given that Shinku wins, but a "Suigintou wins" ending could have been workable.
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Old 2006-01-22, 21:12   Link #183
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Seriously if any doll that is incomplete can be Alice then the results are still open. If not then Shinku has already won.
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Old 2006-01-23, 00:55   Link #184
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What's going to happen..

Shinku and Barasuishou are left, with Suigintou simply tending to Megu. (Suigintou is strong enough to beat both of them, but Megu is more important)

Barasuishou : *kills Jun w/her crystal sword*
Shinku : ...!
Barasuishou : That's right. I called your masta.
Shinku : Bitch... you shouldn't have done that. *In an instant, plucks out Barasuishou's remaining eye, leaving her wailing in pain on the ground*
Barasuishou : Aaahh! You *****! I'll ****'n kill you! Aaahhh!!! etc etc.

Door shuts loudly, and you hear Rozen laughing manically with the sound of cloth ripping.
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Old 2006-01-23, 01:42   Link #185
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Let's get ready for a My:Hime ending!
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Old 2006-01-23, 03:09   Link #186
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That's the only thing I DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN to Rozen Maiden.

Full revives are good, yes, but please.... leave out the cheesiness.
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Old 2006-01-23, 04:07   Link #187
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That's the only thing I DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN to Rozen Maiden.

Full revives are good, yes, but please.... leave out the cheesiness.
OK then ...

Sougintou-sama for Alice!!!!!!!

Sorry couldnt help myself >.<
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Old 2006-01-23, 04:18   Link #188
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That's the only thing I DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN to Rozen Maiden.

Full revives are good, yes, but please.... leave out the cheesiness.
Yes, My-hime's ending was the most cheesy evar!. It would have been better if they have left everyone dead. Not made some happy ever after ending.
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Old 2006-01-23, 04:28   Link #189
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Yes, My-hime's ending was the most cheesy evar!. It would have been better if they have left everyone dead. Not made some happy ever after ending.
I smell an Ideon ending
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Old 2006-01-23, 07:56   Link #190
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Yes, My-hime's ending was the most cheesy evar!. It would have been better if they have left everyone dead. Not made some happy ever after ending.
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I smell an Ideon ending
Well, now that I do my 2ch "reconnaissance" everyday, I always hear how things would end. Frankly, I didn't expect the "Ideon ending" to be mentioned here and on 2ch.

As from what I am reading from 2ch, they either expect:
1. It all being a dream
-Remember, "Traumend" = to dream. Alice in Wonderland also ended with it all being a dream so this might be a good possibility.
2. Mai Hime ending: No explanation necessary, but this phrase is similarly used for 2ch.
Specifically, examples of this are:
-A variation of Shinku collecting all the roza mysticas, but refuses to become alice->all but Shinku's roza mystica returns->Jum "fixing" Shinku in the future.
3. Ideon ending: This is basically when all hell breaks lose, and the show just goes emotional.
-First, Megu dies while Gin is in battle. Then, Jum loses all hope in life without Shinku and the others. The watchmaker goes insane, Tomoe goes suicidal, Miichan loses her job, and Jum's sister keeps serving extra plates.
4. Other
Things like:
-Megu becoming Alice by Gin sacrificing her own Roza Mystica.
-Enju is not really "father", but all a conspiracy by Laplace.
-Jum goes "insane" like Father, but instead of making the "perfect girl", he decides to make the "perfect doll" in an effort to meet Shinku and the others.
-Some weird variation like Fate S/N in which, there were previous Alice Games, but everytime there's a winner, the Alice that's desired of the Father's reborn is formed, and the game is resetted again.

Yeah, basically they only say variations to those endings and nothing more. Most assume a Mai-Hime ending though.

Some other stuff:
  • Gin is not shown in the previews of ep12. This could mean either she dies very early-on, or there's a "suprise" like in season 1.
  • On the offical boards, the admin/mod (a TBS worker) specifically says: "Consideration of the 3rd season would be made based upon the amount of support there is." Rumors that there IS a 3rd season is also heard on 2ch.
  • Possible death / double K.O. foreshadowing can be seen by the light coming from Shinku's side in ep12 preview.
  • Possibility that Barasuishou is not the "real" 7th doll. In the manga, they don't really mention her name (not to mention the reversal of eyepatch).
  • It would be hard for the staff to sack Gin, now that they had a "Suigintou Fan Assembly" almost a month before + coming back from season 1. But then again, Suisei was sacked so you can't really tell.

Btw, I won't go to the nearly infinite amount of criticizms and parodies of this ep from 2ch.
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Old 2006-01-23, 08:24   Link #191
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3. Ideon ending: This is basically when all hell breaks lose, and the show just goes emotional.
-First, Megu dies while Gin is in battle. Then, Jum loses all hope in life without Shinku and the others. The watchmaker goes insane, Tomoe goes suicidal, Miichan loses her job, and Jum's sister keeps serving extra plates.
Suigintou felt Megu's death and she went beserked and lost all hope. Gives Rozen and Lapace Demon the finger then procceed to overload her rozen mysticals to trigger the destruction of the universe. After the universe's destruction, the messiah being Alice appear and all the souls (including the dolls) gather together in harmony as the universe restarts.

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Old 2006-01-23, 10:14   Link #192
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I vouch for the 'dream' ending...It could be simply just Shinku in the future dreaming about the past and what had happened, and another Alice Game will begin all over again like a vicious cycle. Like a fate that the dolls can never escape from: Fighting one another.
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Old 2006-01-23, 10:26   Link #193
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Whatever it is, I really hope it is not this ending:

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1. It all being a dream
-Remember, "Traumend" = to dream. Alice in Wonderland also ended with it all being a dream so this might be a good possibility.
I want a happy ending for this anime, because I became emotionally attached to all the dolls. Yeah, I know, it is lame...
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Old 2006-01-23, 10:33   Link #194
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Shinku becomes alice. Rozen, repressed after hundreds of years, rapes shinku on sight Shinku summons souseiseki's scissors and 'SNIP'...
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Old 2006-01-23, 11:42   Link #195
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Some of these predictions, serious or not, are pretty darn funny to read. Pessmisst that I am, I say Shinku will win this sole-survivor death match(I support Gin-Sama) because she's the protagonist.

The question is... I don't see either Shinku or Barasushiou doing Gin-Sama in...
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Old 2006-01-23, 12:35   Link #196
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Shinku becomes alice. Rozen, repressed after hundreds of years, rapes shinku on sight Shinku summons souseiseki's scissors and 'SNIP'...
We will see that in the Hentai version of Rozen Maiden.
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Old 2006-01-23, 12:37   Link #197
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We will see that in the Hentai version of Rozen Maiden.
When is the release date for that
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Old 2006-01-23, 12:47   Link #198
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Already.
But I dont like to see Rozen Maiden dolls do porn things.
Kinda nasty, poor dolls.
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Old 2006-01-23, 13:57   Link #199
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The chance of getting a dream/Mai-Hime ending and sad ending with none of the dolls reviving seem perfectly equal. It really can go either way.

With this many main characters dead (+ Suigintou next), unless the creators have government protection or a death wish, they will probably revive everyone thru 'dream' or Mai-Hime.
However, with the sad tone at the end and the preview, they can easily go into a sad ending,
But if that is the case, then they would have to resolve Gin and Kana's masters stories too, which would make it seem rushed. Plus the 2nd to last episode of Mai-Hime also ended in a sad note and we know what happens after, so...
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Old 2006-01-23, 14:18   Link #200
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Seriously if any doll that is incomplete can be Alice then the results are still open. If not then Shinku has already won.
But, is Suigintou still incomplete? When Father repaired her he might also have completed her.
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