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Old 2013-02-10, 22:05   Link #701
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ciberdemon, I still doubt that kiryuu is tiamat.but I think that she is a wizard of khaos brigade.ddraig already had discovered that kiryuu is tiamat already that they have a strong connection.
It never said in the story that they have a strong connection. Just that Ddraig thinks Tiamat hates him. There are ways to suppress power and if she changed forms, even Ddraig may not even recognize her.
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Old 2013-02-10, 22:40   Link #702
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the burst state for a sacred gear causes the gear to break down is this comparable to j drive for the boosted gear and divine divide not in power but in function
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Old 2013-02-10, 23:32   Link #703
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@cyberdemon, They can actually sense each other through their Dragon Pulse.
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Old 2013-02-11, 00:21   Link #704
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@cyberdemon, They can actually sense each other through their Dragon Pulse.
Just because it can be sensed, doesn't mean it can't be suppressed. There's already been shown several ways to suppress strength and magic. Tiamat is considered the strongest dragon king. If she wanted to, it's probably easy to do. So it isn't impossible.
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Old 2013-02-11, 00:32   Link #705
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@cyberdemon even if she is able to suppress it, do you think Tiamat can hide her ability for long, there is a Heavenly Dragon, Two Dragon Kings, former Fallen Angels Governor, sisters of Maous and not to mention the Dragon God Ophis, don't you think that the chances of her identity being revealed is too wide.
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Old 2013-02-11, 00:53   Link #706
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@cyberdemon even if she is able to suppress it, do you think Tiamat can hide her ability for long, there is a Heavenly Dragon, Two Dragon Kings, former Fallen Angels Governor, sisters of Maous and not to mention the Dragon God Ophis, don't you think that the chances of her identity being revealed is too wide.
There IS a reason Tiamat is considered to be the strongest dragon king. It probably wouldn't be hard to hold it for days, weeks, or months on end.

Kiryuu also just kind of comes and goes. It would be one thing if she was around 24/7 but she isn't. As far as I remember the best Saji has been near her is merely in passing. Ophis has never even met Kiryuu. She seems to have done a good job avoiding those who possibly could see through it.

Also as long as no one is looking for something, they are less likely to notice even minor signs. No one has any reason to suspect anyone in the school due to the treaty so they don't try. However now that they know there is a mole, they will be more on guard and looking for those small signs.

However, she happens to be in the same class as Ise and whenever she shows up Ise is always close by. It would be all too easy for those who could sense it a little to simply mistake it as just being Ise. Ise and Saji would pretty much be a perfect diversion.

I'm not saying that it is definitely her but the chances are there.
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Old 2013-02-11, 04:26   Link #707
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^ First, even though she may be the strongest of the Dragon Kings there is a big difference between a Dragon King and a Heavenly Emperor Dragon. I doubt Ddraig wouldn't have notice her presence near him and Issei.

Also Ophis follows Issei and the others to school. Kiryuu is pretty much at school everyday, so if Kiryuu was Tiamat, Ophis would have detected her presence the moment she set foot in Kuoh Academy. Ohips doesn't need to meet Kiryuu to know if she is or not Tiamat.

It's barely possible she could have hid herself from the other Dragon Kings, Azazel, and the memebers in Rias and Sonas group's, but it's doubt full she could hid herself from a being strong enough to dominate God and a being that was many times stonger than God.
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Old 2013-02-11, 06:12   Link #708
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I'm not saying that it is definitely her but the chances are there.
well given how kiryuu acts ,her personality and some circumstances i think its imposible but just like you said the chances are there, so even if its a 1.0% chance its still possibility so i cant disagree with you,, well bcoz where talking about dxd here .. there so many unexpected event and miracle that happened in the past vol and most likely it involve about dragons .

lol just remembering fafnir make want to laugh, who would thought that the 1 of the greatest dragon king have a fetish for a panty and not just a normal panty it has to be "special"
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Old 2013-02-11, 06:29   Link #709
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Is Fafnir perverted from the start or he starts getting funny after being with Azazel?
If Kiryuu is indeed the last dragon king then her being close to Asia is a given since she seems to have some affinity with dragon...
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Old 2013-02-11, 06:45   Link #710
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Is Fafnir perverted from the start or he starts getting funny after being with Azazel?
If Kiryuu is indeed the last dragon king then her being close to Asia is a given since she seems to have some affinity with dragon...
Spoiler for .....:

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Old 2013-02-11, 07:19   Link #711
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Uhmm question have you people already read life 4 of volume 14?
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Old 2013-02-11, 08:04   Link #712
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hey guys,is how sky black swordman said,is impossible that kiryuu not be detected by ophis if she is tiamat.no is need that ophis stay close of kiryuu for ophis realize that kiryuu is tiamat already that ophis is a dragon god(one of the two strongest being of the world).then is almost impossible or impossible that kiryuu is tiamat.but is really possible that she is a wizard.
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Old 2013-02-11, 09:54   Link #713
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hey guys,is how sky black swordman said,is impossible that kiryuu not be detected by ophis if she is tiamat.no is need that ophis stay close of kiryuu for ophis realize that kiryuu is tiamat already that ophis is a dragon god(one of the two strongest being of the world).then is almost impossible or impossible that kiryuu is tiamat.but is really possible that she is a wizard.
Ophis doesn't really care for things that don't involve her though. That's the reason she was used by KB. I could visualize her noticing but then just shrugging and going back to her own business. lol

and frankly, after the Ophis and GR give him a new body thing, I'm not putting anything passed this author. lol
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[“This whole region is within area of the alliance of Three Great Powers, and there are many staffs here besides us. There is a powerful barrier within the whole town while having this school is the centre point, and it’s made that anyone can be notified if someone suspicious steps foot in this area. There is a factor where it is hard to find them if they enter by hiding themselves, but it will restrict on the possible ways of coming inside here. First is to enter by force. This is possible for those with powers. But this method of entering will make them get caught right away, so this method is different from this incident.”]

Quote from Volume 14 Life 4.
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[“This whole region is within area of the alliance of Three Great Powers, and there are many staffs here besides us. There is a powerful barrier within the whole town while having this school is the centre point, and it’s made that anyone can be notified if someone suspicious steps foot in this area. There is a factor where it is hard to find them if they enter by hiding themselves, but it will restrict on the possible ways of coming inside here. First is to enter by force. This is possible for those with powers. But this method of entering will make them get caught right away, so this method is different from this incident.”]

Quote from Volume 14 Life 4.
The thing about them entering doesn't necessarily work if they were already within the town and school in the first place.
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Old 2013-02-11, 10:59   Link #716
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cyberdemon,guy,is impossible that kiryuu is tiamat.the barrier had caught she if she is tiamat,same that she already are in the town before.
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[“The second method is a case where the person who lives in this town or one of the staffs leaves the barrier and gets captured where they get controlled to enter here. Regarding this method, we didn’t get any response from the civilians, the students, and staffs. If that’s the case, then it means the traitor became the middle person to allow them to enter the school.”] (Quote from Volume 14 Life 4).

They can get response from people inside the barrier.
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Old 2013-02-11, 11:25   Link #718
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Well one way or the other. Kiryuu probably isn't normal. Just that she got a picture in this kind of volume instead of a SS volume seems suspicious unless she is going to become someone of importance. She's either the mole or is someone who knows much more than she is letting on. There is enough points that being Tiamat is possible and not completely out of the blue but the same could be said about her possibly being a magician. There's a couple points for both even before this volume. It would be possible that those with VERY strong magic and skill with knowledge of the barrier and it's workings would know weak points that would allow then to move freely at least while they're already inside. I mean Kuroka doesn't seem to have any trouble moving around while inside. The higher ups might turn a blind eye but not everyone is necessarily privy to such a fact.
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Old 2013-02-11, 12:21   Link #719
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I like the idea of kiryuu being Tiamat. And the detection thing must have a couple of holes in it because the only traitors could be from. The gremory or the siti group and that is just to unlikely.
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Old 2013-02-11, 18:16   Link #720
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Ophis doesn't really care for things that don't involve her though. That's the reason she was used by KB. I could visualize her noticing but then just shrugging and going back to her own business. lol
So you think if Ophis detected presence Tiamat at Kuoh Academy she wound not tell Ise about. If she detected presence Tiamat, she would more than likely tell Ise at the very least. Things that are dragon related or at the very least any things that have to do with the Dragon Kings, the Heavenly Dragon Emperors, and Great Red are her business.

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Well one way or the other. Kiryuu probably isn't normal. Just that she got a picture in this kind of volume instead of a SS volume seems suspicious unless she is going to become someone of importance. She's either the mole or is someone who knows much more than she is letting on. There is enough points that being Tiamat is possible and not completely out of the blue but the same could be said about her possibly being a magician. There's a couple points for both even before this volume. It would be possible that those with VERY strong magic and skill with knowledge of the barrier and it's workings would know weak points that would allow then to move freely at least while they're already inside. I mean Kuroka doesn't seem to have any trouble moving around while inside. The higher ups might turn a blind eye but not everyone is necessarily privy to such a fact.
The same could be said for Matsuda and Motohama.
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