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Old 2013-02-11, 17:11   Link #161
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Having just read The Happy Prince out of curiosity born from watching the second episode, I have no idea at all where they are going with the allegory but oh god there's so much they could do with it I hope they go somewhere and it isn't just 'Reference thrown in to introduce us to Rikka's character.'
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Old 2013-02-12, 00:50   Link #162
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The Happy Prince analogy by Rikka was quite apt, but her use of it makes me wonder if the target age group of this season is a bit older than Smile's.
I doubt it. All the Precure shows have been aimed at the same age group, and there's no signs that Doki Doki is trying to do anything different.

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Action is solid and that's all I'm asking for from Precure. It hasn't been the same since Heart Catch.
I thought the action was mostly so-so, but that shot where Mana slid down the cable was pretty great. I think my palm started bleeding from just watching that.

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Having just read The Happy Prince out of curiosity born from watching the second episode, I have no idea at all where they are going with the allegory but oh god there's so much they could do with it I hope they go somewhere and it isn't just 'Reference thrown in to introduce us to Rikka's character.'
The rest of the show is going to be about Rikka peeling off flakes of Mana's skin to help people until she's skinless by the end.
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Old 2013-02-12, 08:14   Link #163
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Old 2013-02-12, 12:24   Link #164
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This episode is even better than the first. More new characters, some interaction between Mana and Rikka and two boss fights!

While I would like them to do two boss fights every other episode, unfortunately their budget will likely not allow it.

The happy prince fairy tale...is this some Japanese fairy tale? As I don't think I've heard that one before. Is it made up for Doki Doki Precure? And isn't fairy tales Smile Precure's thing?

Fairies are exposition fairies as usual for Precure. Bonus points for Mana telling them, "I already know that!" as they explain about the selfishness.

Random Japanese question:
自己中 (jikochuu) - selfishness. This term is used to describe the monsters.
我侭 (wagamama) - selfishness. During the explanation, the fairies use this to describe an emotion in people's hearts.
So what is the difference between these terms? It sounds like they are saying selfishness becomes selfishness, which doesn't give any new information.

Next:
Are they setting up something where the next episode preview always lies?
Ep 1: The preview says something like, "Precure's secret was exposed!" Actual episode: Mana TELLS her friend about it (several times).
Ep 2: The preview has Rikka saying how she doesn't want to and/or can't become a Precure. And I think we all know what will happen next, as previews always spoil (as do episode titles).

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Episode 1 girl (that Mana saves twice) is a proxy for the real target audience: 6 yr old Japanese girls.

Is anyone surprised that Debut Queue was averted? That's got to be a first!
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Old 2013-02-12, 12:42   Link #165
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The happy prince fairy tale...is this some Japanese fairy tale? As I don't think I've heard that one before. Is it made up for Doki Doki Precure? And isn't fairy tales Smile Precure's thing?
While it's structured like a fairy tale, the Happy Prince is actually a short story by Oscar Wilde.

You can read the full text here: http://www.online-literature.com/poe/177/

Or you can watch an animated version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIwupcYwimY
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Old 2013-02-12, 15:48   Link #166
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One more thing:
Sure, when Heart jumps off the building it LOOKS heroic. But fridge logic says Sword can't be hurt by merely falling. I'm pretty sure we have never seen a Cure injured by falling, ever. Falling into pits of black darkness can be harmful, but just from a height? No.
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Old 2013-02-12, 16:11   Link #167
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This is so mesmerizing.
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Old 2013-02-12, 16:37   Link #168
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This is so mesmerizing.
Watch her eyes, too. The animators were actually paying attention.
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Old 2013-02-12, 17:08   Link #169
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One more thing:
Sure, when Heart jumps off the building it LOOKS heroic. But fridge logic says Sword can't be hurt by merely falling. I'm pretty sure we have never seen a Cure injured by falling, ever. Falling into pits of black darkness can be harmful, but just from a height? No.
I think that's above and beyond picking out flaws that aren't there.
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Old 2013-02-12, 17:21   Link #170
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Though the voice acting wasn't filled with life as it was in Smile.. It feels much more refreshing to have some intensity and that all of the main characters didn't meet each other right away.

Though it's nice that they're more bounded by human limitations and realistic.
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Old 2013-02-12, 17:54   Link #171
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Old 2013-02-12, 17:54   Link #172
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Old 2013-02-12, 17:56   Link #173
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You would be, too, if the kingdom you'd been protecting had been destroyed right in front of you and you couldn't do anything about it.
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Old 2013-02-12, 18:11   Link #174
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The first episode title referred to her as the last Precure, which would imply that whatever comrades she had died too.
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Old 2013-02-12, 19:24   Link #175
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You would be, too, if the kingdom you'd been protecting had been destroyed right in front of you and you couldn't do anything about it.
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The first episode title referred to her as the last Precure, which would imply that whatever comrades she had died too.
What has me thinking is that on the first episode, Cure Sword is just fighting the Jikochu monsters, she's not trying to "purify" them anymore.
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Old 2013-02-12, 22:07   Link #176
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What has me thinking is that on the first episode, Cure Sword is just fighting the Jikochu monsters, she's not trying to "purify" them anymore.
Cure Sword purified the Selfish in Clover Tower. The creators probably just didn't want to show off Holy Sword until the episode proper.
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Old 2013-02-12, 23:50   Link #177
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Cure Sword purified the Selfish in Clover Tower. The creators probably just didn't want to show off Holy Sword until the episode proper.
I should have been more specific. What I mean is the Jikochu at the beginning of episode 1.
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Old 2013-02-13, 00:26   Link #178
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I should have been more specific. What I mean is the Jikochu at the beginning of episode 1.
I understood what you were getting at. The creators didn't want to show off any Precure powers until the Cures and the context of the show had been introduced properly.
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Old 2013-02-13, 05:50   Link #179
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Doki's been really swell so far. A huge breath of fresh air from the cancerous tumour that was SMILE! Time is the surgery that removes all cancers.
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Old 2013-02-13, 08:03   Link #180
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I understood what you were getting at. The creators didn't want to show off any Precure powers until the Cures and the context of the show had been introduced properly.
I have two speculations about that scene. First one is there could be too many Jikochu, and it's too tiring for Cure Sword to purify them all. Second is, she might have already lost hope, when the kingdom fell, so she sees no reason to purify the many Jikochu in that area.
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