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Old 2013-01-21, 19:52   Link #201
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Poor Kotomine. All that soul searching in the original VN and Fate/Zero couldn't help him find his calling when it turns out all he had to do was become a mapo tofu chef to enjoy his life.
This is pretty much what I was thinking when I read the chapter. Though my first thought was 'Ramen chef? What happened to his mapo tofu?' and then I was relieved.
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Old 2013-01-28, 13:40   Link #202
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So... Illya needs more appropriate clothing, Tanaka needs an identity, Kotomine needs to chill out, and Gil needs to stop being important in the story and DIE FOREVER AND NEVER COME BACK.

*coughs* Anyway. Still missing: One dark-skinned double who is probably in extreme danger in this place without Illya for Prana and with the Ainsworths who will probably kill her to get the card back; two mages who are probably in as much danger as any other ordinary person when there are overpowered sociopaths wandering around; and one Bazette who is probably fine. Gil thinks he knows Miyu's general location, although how Illya's going to rescue her without any powers of her own is a mystery we have yet to solve. I doubt Gil will help much, and I don't want him hanging around Illya more than necessary anyway.
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Old 2013-01-28, 17:03   Link #203
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So... Illya needs more appropriate clothing, Tanaka needs an identity, Kotomine needs to chill out, and Gil needs to stop being important in the story and DIE FOREVER AND NEVER COME BACK. :frustrated
Gil better not die. His appearance in Fate/Kaleid made it 100x better for me.
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Old 2013-01-28, 17:18   Link #204
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HATE! Damned smug arrogant bastard who thinks he's better than everyone else. I've never liked him in any of his incarnations.

Most disturbing and unacceptable of all is the way they seem to have been playing ship-tease between him and Illya. THAT. WILL NOT. DO. I won't have it. Out with him.
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Old 2013-01-28, 18:25   Link #205
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HATE! Damned smug arrogant bastard who thinks he's better than everyone else. I've never liked him in any of his incarnations.

Most disturbing and unacceptable of all is the way they seem to have been playing ship-tease between him and Illya. THAT. WILL NOT. DO. I won't have it. Out with him.
Lol that's one of the reasons why I like him. Just love it when he calls people mongrels (they actually are). He's actually one of the few arrogant characters that have the right to be arrogant. Or to make myself more clear, it makes sense to why he is arrogant. And he doesn't think he's better than everyone else. Not Enkidu. And he also respected Iskandar.

Anyways no clue why anyone would hate Ko-Gil. He is nothing like the adult one.
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Old 2013-02-09, 10:33   Link #206
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Old 2013-02-09, 22:04   Link #207
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Is it just me or did Gil just pull a Doraemon item out from his gates.
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Old 2013-02-10, 06:07   Link #208
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Most disturbing and unacceptable of all is the way they seem to have been playing ship-tease between him and Illya. THAT. WILL NOT. DO. I won't have it. Out with him.
Remember the last time a girl caught Gil's interest... He was possessive.

Oh he remembers Shirou, not this version but he remembers him.

Given the whole dolls with the two known Ainsworths it is very likely they are homunculus. The Ainsworth also has a hidden castle. They also started the Grail War.

While Miyu herself is Illya's AU counterpart I have a feeling the Ainsworth are the Einsberns counterpart.

Oh being a possessive guy Gil doesn't like anybody messing with his stuff. Using his powers qualify.
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Old 2013-02-13, 01:21   Link #209
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Remember the last time a girl caught Gil's interest... He was possessive.
I assure you, this is one of the reasons I want him gone from Illya's life as quickly as possible.

I cannot trust him. He may be able to help, but Gilgamesh always helps himself first and foremost. Assistance rendered to others is done solely in furtherance of his own goals or for the sake of his amusement.

Anyway... Gil's existance is an oddity, that's for sure. Looking at the last page of chapter three it strikes me again how strange it is that he is able to exist separately while someone else is using the card that contains his powers.

So, Illya, now would be the time for nice little girls who don't have any powers to put back on the convenient little invisibility thing you used to get there and wander off somewhere out of the line of fire.
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Old 2013-02-13, 09:17   Link #210
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This little Gil is different from the Gil we know though. He's not as nasty as his adult self, the worst aspects of his personalty have been toned down quite a bit. Gil definitely has his own goals in mind, but I don't think he is going to outright betray Illya.
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Old 2013-02-13, 15:37   Link #211
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This little Gil is different from the Gil we know though. He's not as nasty as his adult self, the worst aspects of his personalty have been toned down quite a bit. Gil definitely has his own goals in mind, but I don't think he is going to outright betray Illya.
Pretty much this. This Gil is similar in personality to the Fate/Hollow one.
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Old 2013-02-13, 16:23   Link #212
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Pretty much this. This Gil is similar in personality to the Fate/Hollow one.
And since most people haven't played that, since it isn't fully translated yet, refer to Carnival Phantasm. I see a lot of similar traits to him there.
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Old 2013-02-13, 16:26   Link #213
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And since most people haven't played that, since it isn't fully translated yet, refer to Carnival Phantasm. I see a lot of similar traits to him there.
Makes me wonder what the Fate/Extra CCC Gil will be like.
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Old 2013-02-13, 16:44   Link #214
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So I take it that Gil wants his stuff back (or at least to be the only one to have access to his stuff). The young Gil is not usually an ass though, just when he;s grown up does he become insufferable.
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Old 2013-02-13, 16:55   Link #215
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Anyway... Gil's existance is an oddity, that's for sure. Looking at the last page of chapter three it strikes me again how strange it is that he is able to exist separately while someone else is using the card that contains his powers.
Different universes but the same existence.

From what I remember Servant do gain knowledge of the modern era but if they were previously summoned they loose memory of their previous summoning.

Saber was an outlier.

But here Gil definitely remembers Shirou's existence in FSN.

That is why he looks so happy finding this universe's Shirou alive.
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Old 2013-02-13, 17:15   Link #216
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And since most people haven't played that, since it isn't fully translated yet, refer to Carnival Phantasm. I see a lot of similar traits to him there.
I haven't seen it. I only heard about it recently, and I'm not sure I'm interested in a pure parody... as odd as that sounds coming from someone talking in the Prisma Illya thread.

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Different universes but the same existence.

From what I remember Servant do gain knowledge of the modern era but if they were previously summoned they loose memory of their previous summoning.

Saber was an outlier.

But here Gil definitely remembers Shirou's existence in FSN.

That is why he looks so happy finding this universe's Shirou alive.
Gil seems to have been summoned into this universe, though. He said he gained knowledge of the Ainsworths and Miyu when he was summoned, and that's how he's been able to act as a guide. He is the Gilgamesh for Miyu's universe. Well, all the cards and servants actually belong in Miyu's universe. The only reason they showed up in Illya's is because Miyu escaped to there.

Gil's knowledge of Shirou may have come through the same background information, but his reaction does seem a little more personal, doesn't it? Hmm...
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Old 2013-02-13, 17:21   Link #217
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There seems to be a difference between the usual summoned servants (Gil) and the dolls, wands, and magical girls that "include" the summoning card's powers.

That and there are still two Archer cards. Perhaps Gil's come into being when the other Archer card become a manifested clone of Illya? Or his is different.

All the other cards had a spirit/servant in them, but only Gil escaped. Though there shouldn't be an eighth card normally.
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Old 2013-02-13, 17:51   Link #218
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Though there shouldn't be an eighth card normally.
Yeah, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. As always, Gil is an anomaly.
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Old 2013-02-14, 13:46   Link #219
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Though there shouldn't be an eighth card normally.
Gil: Rule breaker MWAHAHAHAHA

Everyone else:.....

Gil: What?
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Old 2013-02-17, 16:31   Link #220
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or Gil isn't even from either universe at all?
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