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Old 2013-02-14, 20:34   Link #3001
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Well, they can of course.... but not take a bath... It's embarrassing...more on their part....
...I don't understand?
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Old 2013-02-14, 20:35   Link #3002
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...I don't understand?
I'm lost... forget it...

So becoming a Miko is also a job that even high school students could apply?
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Old 2013-02-14, 20:41   Link #3003
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What you guys talking about
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Old 2013-02-14, 20:41   Link #3004
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You too take a bath with your girlfriends? Pretty close.. I say...
I'll leave personal details as personal.


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So becoming a Miko is also a job that even high school students could apply?
Being a Miko isn't actually a full-time job for most.
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Old 2013-02-16, 20:10   Link #3005
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What you guys talking about
Whatever it is, maybe, maybe it has something to do with my Virgin Detector currently crackling like crazy....
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Old 2013-02-16, 20:23   Link #3006
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Well, they can of course.... but not take a bath (in another person's house)... It's embarrassing...more on their part....
Reasons why it is embarrassing:
1) You might have a shower curtain/towel with naked girls in it.
2) Shame of using someone else's property.
3) You're a girl or I'm a guy (or other way around).
4) Might walk out of the bathroom and see him/her naked.
5) Repeat #3 and run.
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Old 2013-02-22, 20:50   Link #3007
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I've noticed Alice in Wonderland gets referred to a decent amount in anime, more then most other English classic literature.

Is Alice in Wonderland particularly popular in Japan? Why?
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Old 2013-02-22, 20:55   Link #3008
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I've noticed Alice in Wonderland gets referred to a decent amount in anime, more then most other English classic literature.

Is Alice in Wonderland particularly popular in Japan? Why?
It's becaue it's popular and in the public domain, so anyone can use it without having to pay royalties or deal with some angry company's lawyers, and got a guaranteed audience because it's popular. An already matured cash cow always ready for milking by anybody. That is why it is so popular still in my country too.
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Old 2013-02-22, 21:17   Link #3009
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I've noticed Alice in Wonderland gets referred to a decent amount in anime, more then most other English classic literature.

Is Alice in Wonderland particularly popular in Japan? Why?
1) She (the original) is 15 years old girl. ()
2) public domain so no lawyer issue to use popular work.
3) It have random weird imagery.

especially point 3 (with help of point 2) allow everyone to interpret the story in many different angle

and this also applied in west. so not just japan exclusive

thought by some reason creepy doll like Alice is popular. not sure where that come from
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Old 2013-02-22, 21:26   Link #3010
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Do Japanese still do hand washing?

I know it may sound stupid but... I don't see them lately... It's always washing machine. As if all stains could be remove by just plain machine wash....
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Old 2013-02-22, 21:29   Link #3011
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What place does NOT hand wash?
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Old 2013-02-22, 21:30   Link #3012
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Do Japanese still do hand washing?

I know it may sound stupid but... I don't see them lately... It's always washing machine. As if all stains could be remove by just plain machine wash....
Hand washing is hard and takes a long time... you hand wash all your clothes? I have too much clothes and too little sanity to hand wash all of my stuff

I think at least some Japanese use washing machine, but dry on the clothesline (unless it's raining then they'll use a backup drying machine). That's really smart because air drying prevents clothes shrinkage. At least that's what I've seen, but I haven't gone into every Japanese house.

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What place does NOT hand wash?
In America we don't hand wash. We all use washing machines. Even poor people just go to these stores we have dedicated to washing machines. Nobody hand washes, except the rich who want to pay somebody to do it.

We also dry clean but only for important clothes, like suits and fancy dresses.
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Old 2013-02-22, 21:33   Link #3013
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Do Japanese still do hand washing?

I know it may sound stupid but... I don't see them lately... It's always washing machine. As if all stains could be remove by just plain machine wash....
not really all stain thought. usually the wash it by hand a first to clean "big" stain. then let machine wash do the rest
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Old 2013-02-22, 21:35   Link #3014
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The fact it's public domain can't be it all. For instance, you don't see other children's novels from the same era getting much attention (say treasure island, tom sawyer etc.). Though Alice does have weird imagery going for it.

On the flipside, I can't imagine Alice in Wonderland is easily translated, it has very... idiosyncratic language (Can you really translate something like Jabberwocky?).

I'm just curious about the history of the book in Japan. Is it widely read?

Also, Alice is not 15 in the novel. She is pre-pubescent, and there's a lot of humour derived from Victorian primary school education. My guess is she's somewhere between the age of 6 and 10.
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Old 2013-02-22, 21:56   Link #3015
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probably something to do with one of the theme: Imagination does stimulate people to "Imagine" their own alice story which make it popular especially in Fanfic and Fanart

Other reason probably because of it originally children story. because the story is bizarre and strange this make the children remember for long time until they are grown up which then they realize hidden meaning

well that's one way too look at it
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Old 2013-02-22, 21:58   Link #3016
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(Can you really translate something like Jabberwocky?)
Uh, Jabberwocky is from the sequel, Through the Looking Glass.

Actually, is it more common to specifically reference an event or character in Alice in Wonderland, or Through the Looking Glass? I'm pretty sure the former is more well-known, so I guess that's the answer.
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Old 2013-02-22, 22:06   Link #3017
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Also Japanese would at least know Alice in Wonderland through Disney, I know Disney is big in Japan. I have no idea if the books were very popular in Japan before Disney brought their movie to Japan.
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Old 2013-02-22, 22:16   Link #3018
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not really all stain thought. usually the wash it by hand a first to clean "big" stain. then let machine wash do the rest
I see.. I hope I see some girl actually hand wash a cloth for her love... its 10x the effort and 10x the gratitude....
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Old 2013-02-22, 22:16   Link #3019
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In America we don't hand wash. We all use washing machines. Even poor people just go to these stores we have dedicated to washing machines. Nobody hand washes, except the rich who want to pay somebody to do it.

We also dry clean but only for important clothes, like suits and fancy dresses.
That wasn't my point: Unless you're one of those super-rich who don't wash their own hands if they can get someone to do it for them, most people at least do small-scale hand washing for the (non-disposable) kitchen towels and small stains.


That was why the original question was pretty strange: What average person would NOT hand wash at least the smallest items?
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Old 2013-02-22, 22:19   Link #3020
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Everyone who washes dishes at home still does it by hand.
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