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Old 2013-02-18, 14:09   Link #121
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Really? Because Clannad and Kanon had named girls that had no arc or route with Tomoya/Yuichi. At least their anime shows had such girls. And for me, that made their anime worlds more realistic and hence easier to buy into.
Well not every single girl, just most of the ones who hang around you all the time.

There was never any sex in Clannad though (except when *spolier* and *spoiler* have a kid of course, but it's not explicit in any way). But in Kanon you could lay any of the main 6 girls and see a yuri CG of Mai and her friend (can't remember her name right now) (I think it was just a dream, but I don't have the H version of the game so I don't know personally).

And I agree, as far as Key games go H scenes are unnecessary and detract from the story imo (except Tomoyo After I hear). I don't know why they bother putting scenes in if they can't write them to actually bestow a boner, or at least further the relationship. Fun fact: The song below plays during H scenes in Little Busters EX. >_>
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But maybe it's just me. Uguu it hurts~

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Old 2013-02-18, 14:20   Link #122
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Well not all the girls, just most of the ones who hang around you all the time.

There was never any sex in Clannad though. But in Kanon you could lay any of the main 6 girls and see a yuri CG of Mai and her friend (can't remember her name right now).
There are more than 6 named girls in Kanon, though.

I'm just saying that it's good to have female characters that aren't heavily into the male lead. It can offer a different perspective, and a welcomed change of pace narrative-wise. With this in mind, I'm kind of glad that Kanata isn't joining the Little Busters even though she has reforged her bond with Haruka. I like how Kanata is now a sort of "one foot outside, one foot inside" periphery protagonist. It makes the world of LB seem a bit bigger, more whole.
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Old 2013-02-18, 14:28   Link #123
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There are more than 6 named girls in Kanon, though.

I'm just saying that it's good to have female characters that aren't heavily into the male lead. It can offer a different perspective, and a welcomed change of pace narrative-wise. With this in mind, I'm kind of glad that Kanata isn't joining the Little Busters even though she has reforged her bond with Haruka. I like how Kanata is now a sort of "one foot outside, one foot inside" periphery protagonist. It makes the world of LB seem a bit bigger, more whole.
Yeah, it is good to have a few girls who can resist the man's lovely charms.
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Old 2013-02-18, 14:36   Link #124
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And I agree, as far as Key games go H scenes are unnecessary and detract from the story imo (except Tomoyo After I hear). I don't know why they bother putting scenes in if they can't write them to actually bestow a boner, or at least further the relationship. Fun fact: The song below plays during H scenes in Little Busters EX. >_>
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But maybe it's just me. Uguu it hurts~
That's sex music?

LOL!!! That's the funniest thing I've heard/learned all day!

If anything, this is music you listen to while you spend a warm and relaxing evening with family and friends, drinking hot cocoa. It's certainly not something that would put me/keep me in the mood for sex, lol.
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Old 2013-02-18, 17:21   Link #125
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Well not every single girl, just most of the ones who hang around you all the time.

There was never any sex in Clannad though (except when *spolier* and *spoiler* have a kid of course, but it's not explicit in any way). But in Kanon you could lay any of the main 6 girls and see a yuri CG of Mai and her friend (can't remember her name right now) (I think it was just a dream, but I don't have the H version of the game so I don't know personally).

And I agree, as far as Key games go H scenes are unnecessary and detract from the story imo (except Tomoyo After I hear). I don't know why they bother putting scenes in if they can't write them to actually bestow a boner, or at least further the relationship. Fun fact: The song below plays during H scenes in Little Busters EX. >_>
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Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?
But maybe it's just me. Uguu it hurts~
awww yeah, I'm feelin it now.
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Old 2013-02-18, 21:01   Link #126
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Fun fact: The song below plays during H scenes in Little Busters EX. >_>
Can someone send me back in time to 5 minutes ago, when I didn't know about this?

also, tell me Riki falls asleep in the middle of the act in at least one route?
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Old 2013-02-19, 04:02   Link #127
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I'm going to force this conversation to change, lol.

Interestingly enough, I didn't remember this when I played the VN, but Kud seems to be an example of someone who's intelligent, but dosen't function well in an academic setting. I didn't expect that from something from Japan, since I always assumed they were more stringent aboot their system, whereas in the West there are alternatives to the classic classroom setting.
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Old 2013-02-19, 07:44   Link #128
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Old 2013-02-19, 10:11   Link #129
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D'awww, thank you... I've always wanted to be a drug/emotion. I thought I'm more of a crack person though.
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Old 2013-02-19, 11:13   Link #130
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Really? Because Clannad and Kanon had named girls that had no arc or route with Tomoya/Yuichi. At least their anime shows had such girls. And for me, that made their anime worlds more realistic and hence easier to buy into.
I don't know about Kanon but Clannad had quite a few routes that were scrapped or butchered in the anime.

It's not a problem to have tons of route in VNs since they usually don't happen in the same "timeline". It's not like the MCs actually build harems, they're involved with one girl per world. I assume that's how it worked in the Little Busters VN as well.

The anime made the choice to have everything take place in one timeline, so that creates the kind of issues which are usually solved by removing the romantic component of each route save one. None of the girls in the anime are actually into Riki. They're really just friends. Heck, at this point Kyousuke and Masato have shown more attraction toward Riki than the girls have
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Old 2013-02-19, 11:55   Link #131
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I don't know about Kanon but Clannad had quite a few routes that were scrapped or butchered in the anime.

It's not a problem to have tons of route in VNs since they usually don't happen in the same "timeline". It's not like the MCs actually build harems, they're involved with one girl per world. I assume that's how it worked in the Little Busters VN as well.

The anime made the choice to have everything take place in one timeline, so that creates the kind of issues which are usually solved by removing the romantic component of each route save one. None of the girls in the anime are actually into Riki. They're really just friends. Heck, at this point Kyousuke and Masato have shown more attraction toward Riki than the girls have
I don't know... That one episode with Trap!Riki in it certainly felt harem-esque to me. The girls all seemed to be pretty into him there.

But to be fair, a lot of it depends on how the narrative develops from here. I do think they successfully de-romanticzed Mio and Haruka's arcs. Komari's had a touch of romantic feeling to it, but it was slight, and mostly one-sided.
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Old 2013-02-26, 22:20   Link #132
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It's not a problem to have tons of route in VNs since they usually don't happen in the same "timeline". It's not like the MCs actually build harems, they're involved with one girl per world. I assume that's how it worked in the Little Busters VN as well.
You have no idea how much I want post a couple of major spoilers to fully explain this.
Simply put...it should (I say should cause I no longer trust JC with anything >_>) be explained near the end. All I can say is, the Little Busters VN doesn't really work like other VNs when it comes to the routes.
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