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Old 2013-02-21, 17:17   Link #61
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^Personally, I feel inclined to say Tsuru, but the truth is we barely saw her in action. I still feel it would be pretty badass to see an old granny with LAUNDRY powers rise to the top of the marines, though.


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The problem is not the alliance between Law and Luffy. There are enough people to witness this.
But Kid's alliance is the big question. How should the press know of this?

I don't see any confusion here. Remember, Kid's crew were also part of the underworld witnesses who watched Luffy beat Caesar, so they could have just spread the news of the alliance themselves. It's pretty clear to me that information travels at light-speed in the underworld, and it's not like any of those guys said the alliances were meant to be kept secret in the first place.
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Old 2013-02-21, 17:37   Link #62
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^Personally, I feel inclined to say Tsuru, but the truth is we barely saw her in action. I still feel it would be pretty badass to see an old granny with LAUNDRY powers rise to the top of the marines, though.
Tsuru is my top choice as well. Otherwise Cancer, Strawberry or Momonga are my bets based on currently known vice-admirals (Oda could always invent some more later on).
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Old 2013-02-21, 17:47   Link #63
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^I'd also say that Doberman and/or Onigumo would make good candidates, as well. After all, the both of them sure seem to share the same "absolute justice" belief as Akainu, particularly Onigumo (recall him shooting one of his own men during the EL arc just because the guy didn't agree with the idea of sacrificing his fellow soldiers).....
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Old 2013-02-21, 17:53   Link #64
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I don't think Haki alone can generate fire like that, unless if it creates a friction hot enough to ignite fire when using a super high speed attack like Luffy's red hawk.

But if Luffy can generate fire on his own without using any high speed attack, that would definitely be awesome. It would be even more awesome if the fire

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It's not the Haki that generates the Fire,but Gear 2nd mostly,Haki is only hardening his arm probably applying more pressure,since the steam is trapped and has nowhere to go it reaches a high temperature which ignites his arm,also thanks to the Haki his arm is protected from damage.

I doubt it's possible to Inherit a DF,first of all they're not even blood related,2nd,Ace would have had to be Luffy's father for it to make sense.
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Old 2013-02-21, 18:08   Link #65
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Actually, didn't Luffy inexplicably catch on fire while fighting Akainu and we saw Ace's spirit or something? Maybe that's what they meant by "inherit".
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Old 2013-02-21, 18:12   Link #66
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Speaking of promotions, I wonder what rank Sentoumaru is. He's definitely VA caliber as a fighter, at least.
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Old 2013-02-21, 18:20   Link #67
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I agree he would be in that rank too.

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It's been two years. Others are sure to have joined their ranks by now.
Admirals
I don't think there is anyone we know of in the vice Admiral rank except for Garp. Second all three( Akoiji, Kizaru, and Akainu) were vice admirals 22 years ago. They have considerable experience has a high ranking officer already. I think they are going to need someone from the outside or Oda going have to create one. Hopefully Oda creates new admirals because I don't see any of the present one becoming Admiral over the two year time skip. Finally Admiral is a special rank, it belong to the exceptional people. It is also one rank below Fleet Admiral. I hope Oda won't put any vice Admirals we know in that rank.

Future Admirals
I think when Luffy becomes Pirate King Smoker, Coby, and X Drake will be admiral during that time. There will have to be at least another time skip possibly 20 year skip.

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Old 2013-02-21, 18:44   Link #68
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^ The Vice Admirals are next in line for a promotion to admiral status, though. They, too, have had years of battle experience and are all proficient with Haki. Moreover, admiral is a rank you really have to work for, and the VAs we know of have more than proven themselves in that regard.

Keep in mind that we have yet to see the full capabilities of the VAs. Perhaps some of them are bordering on admiral level unbeknownst to us. Onigumo, in particular, has this powerful and commanding presence to him. And his feats/missions (sneaking behind Marco and seastone cuffing him; personally picking up Ace from Impel Down) indicate he's no ordinary VA.
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Old 2013-02-21, 18:52   Link #69
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@grey_1960: You quote me, but you don't seem to be addressing anything I said in it.
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Old 2013-02-21, 18:53   Link #70
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^Answered wrong quote my mistake
This is the quote i was responding to. I will change it above has an update.
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It's been two years. Others are sure to have joined their ranks by now.

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^ The Vice Admirals are next in line for a promotion to admiral status, though. They, too, have had years of battle experience and are all proficient with Haki. Moreover, admiral is a rank you really have to work for, and the VAs we know of have more than proven themselves in that regard.

Keep in mind that we have yet to see the full capabilities of the VAs. Perhaps some of them are bordering on admiral level unbeknownst to us. Onigumo, in particular, has this powerful and commanding presence to him. And his feats/missions (sneaking behind Marco and seastone cuffing him; personally picking up Ace from Impel Down) indicate he's no ordinary VA.
^Fitting the role
Experience is one thing but being able to fill the role is another. None of them are qualified in my view. Especially after seeing what the Admirals did at Marine Ford and Punk Hazard. Even Garp in his old age is stronger then any of the vice Admirals we know of. I don't discount the accomplishment some of the VA's have done but when you compare them to Garp(he passed up the promotion for Admiral couple of times), Sengoku, Akoiji, Kizaru, and Akainu. It give you a perspective of what to expect out of the Admiral Rank.
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Old 2013-02-21, 19:55   Link #71
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My guess is that at least one admiral will be completely new. It will be interesting if a non-logia becomes an admiral, perhaps a promoted VA. Honestly don't know enough about current VAs to judge, although so far they don't seem to be the same caliber and the admirals pre-timeskip.
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Old 2013-02-22, 00:57   Link #72
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Actually, didn't Luffy inexplicably catch on fire while fighting Akainu and we saw Ace's spirit or something? Maybe that's what they meant by "inherit".
Nah,I believe Oda's better than that.
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Old 2013-02-22, 01:44   Link #73
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We will see soon enough, what Admirals Oda has in store for us.
Personally I think, that there should be more than three: Akainu has a policy to strengthen the marines influence in the world, and you can't do that if you don't have enough strong people. And I think it would be also a good psychological sign to deploy at least one admiral for each of the seas (East/West/North/South Blue, Grandline first and second half).
Though the big question would be where to get the strong people.


About Smoker: I wonder what way he will go. The last chapter gave me the vibe, that he may quit the marines to join Kuzan.
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Old 2013-02-22, 03:06   Link #74
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what interests me most about the next arc is that current turn events is this is probably the first time in the entire story that Luffy's is acting as an aggressor. Every single arc in One piece until now has been Luffy and Co. coming to rescue X person(s) in trouble.
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Old 2013-02-22, 09:50   Link #75
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what interests me most about the next arc is that current turn events is this is probably the first time in the entire story that Luffy's is acting as an aggressor. Every single arc in One piece until now has been Luffy and Co. coming to rescue X person(s) in trouble.
Yes thats true. He is targeting the Yonko and realized an alliance will help him do so.

I wonder in the past when there was a pirate king where there also Yonko? I can't remember if this was mentioned before..

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Old 2013-02-22, 10:08   Link #76
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I wonder in the past when there was a pirate king where there also Yonko? I can't remember if this was mentioned before..
We've heard no mention of the system that was in place during Roger's time.

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Scratch out the Buster Call VAs from being promoted to admiral status. Film Z showed that they're still VAs. It looks as though Oda is going to bring in new characters for the admiral seats.
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Old 2013-02-22, 13:40   Link #77
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We've heard no mention of the system that was in place during Roger's time.

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Scratch out the Buster Call VAs from being promoted to admiral status. Film Z showed that they're still VAs. It looks as though Oda is going to bring in new characters for the admiral seats.
With what this chapter shows about Aokiji/Kuzan, he has become a vigilante that works for Akainu/Sakazuki. At least that's what I think.
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Old 2013-02-22, 13:43   Link #78
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I'm jelly of that Samurai child. Seriously. It was a decent chapter though.
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Old 2013-02-22, 13:45   Link #79
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Scratch out the Buster Call VAs from being promoted to admiral status. Film Z showed that they're still VAs. It looks as though Oda is going to bring in new characters for the admiral seats.


Can we be completely certain about that, though? I mean, in Strong World Sengoku was still the FA despite the fact that roughly around that same time in the manga we saw him resign from his position shortly after the Marineford war. Maybe this will be a similar situation where one or two of the Buster Call VAs is still a VA in the movie but would later turn out to be an admiral in the manga.... or something.



Not that I object to the idea of completely new characters being admirals as well, but I still don't think we should rule out the buster call guys so soon.....
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Old 2013-02-22, 14:24   Link #80
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after getting to know luffy better. He is better off keeping Luffy and his crew where he can keep a eye on them
So true.. Both Usopp and Sanji have warned Law about Luffy's thoughts on an alliance..

I think at some point Luffy is gonna save Law's ass in a way he didn't have to, and he will do it because of how he believes an alliance should be. After that, Law is gonna develop even deeper respect for Luffy. A big part of the allegiance of his current crew is that fact that he will never leave behind or sacrifice a nakama.
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