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ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2013-02-17, 10:52

Sorry to double post but its easier to explain everything. The twist is the energy jellal feels. What if the energy he feels is the energy coming from the Eclipse gate and the only reason he feels it at random times is because only certain times does the energy leak. The reason he thinks its related to the games is because it appears from undernearth the arena.

Kaijo · 2013-02-17, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Pinwheel10

The thing that makes this arc so different from the rest of FT is the lack of main villains. Well I won't say lack thereof, but rather whoever the villain is is cloaked in mystery and we have no idea who could be the mastermind.

Arcadios? He is starting to look more and more like one of the good guys every chapter.

Princess Hisui? As I said, she could not be lying, and it only seems so because her story does not coincide with future Lucy.

Future Lucy? I doubt Mashima would even think of that

The "other" time traveler? Possibly, but it's possible that it would turn out that he really is telling the truth and that there really is a herd of dragons coming and that the Eclipse Plan 2 really works and that he really just wants to save everyone. (Long sentence *whew*).

And if you're thinking, "what about Sabertooth?" (*cough* Minerva *cough*), well I'd rather not call them the villains but rather "rivals".

But what if there really isn't a villain and everyone is just making mountains out of mole hills and this plot is really all just a joke? :O Just kidding.

Having a definite villain in each arc is a shonen thing. Personally, I like that FT keeps some mystery in that regard this arc, avoiding that particular trapping this time around. If nothing else, Mashima is good about keeping us guessing. Even the 1 or 2 people who complain about predictability, can't seem to predict anything, heh. But people will complain if he sticks to shonen trappings, and he gets grief if he does things differently. But I suppose you can't please everybody, and if we only have a couple of complainers, that means Mashima is doing a good job pleasing as many people as he can.

Nothing against you, I'm just speaking some thoughts. As I said, I like the fact that we are kept guessing as to what is going on. I like that there are multiple interests in play here, some not all good, and some not all bad. And each person believes they are doing the right things, as opposed to just being simply "bad" because they are a "bad guy" like most shonen shows do.

ellessarr · 2013-02-17, 12:34

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Sorry to double post but its easier to explain everything. The twist is the energy jellal feels. What if the energy he feels is the energy coming from the Eclipse gate and the only reason he feels it at random times is because only certain times does the energy leak. The reason he thinks its related to the games is because it appears from undernearth the arena.

i think the "energy" who jellal feels is related to the little guy who was controlling obra(from raven tail) and the shadow(maybe both are the same), the 2 times jellal feel the energy this little guy and the shadow was here.

Pinwheel10 · 2013-02-17, 22:11

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Originally Posted by Kaijo

Having a definite villain in each arc is a shonen thing. Personally, I like that FT keeps some mystery in that regard this arc, avoiding that particular trapping this time around. If nothing else, Mashima is good about keeping us guessing. Even the 1 or 2 people who complain about predictability, can't seem to predict anything, heh. But people will complain if he sticks to shonen trappings, and he gets grief if he does things differently. But I suppose you can't please everybody, and if we only have a couple of complainers, that means Mashima is doing a good job pleasing as many people as he can.

Nothing against you, I'm just speaking some thoughts. As I said, I like the fact that we are kept guessing as to what is going on. I like that there are multiple interests in play here, some not all good, and some not all bad. And each person believes they are doing the right things, as opposed to just being simply "bad" because they are a "bad guy" like most shonen shows do.

Huh? I'm not saying I don't like the current development where there is no definite villain; I actually think it's a very good twist. You must be thinking of my posts in the Erza thread

IMO, the only things that are predictable in FT are the fights... and the comedy, most of the time. I agree with you though, it is not how a fight ends that matters, but the means the victory is achieved. (I still think the Erza vs. Kagura fight wasn't well thought of, though. Gajeel vs. Rogue on the other hand...

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Sorry to double post but its easier to explain everything. The twist is the energy jellal feels. What if the energy he feels is the energy coming from the Eclipse gate and the only reason he feels it at random times is because only certain times does the energy leak. The reason he thinks its related to the games is because it appears from undernearth the arena.

It seems though that he could also feel the "energy" from people. Like that spikey haired guy in Day 3 and future Lucy.

EDIT: Question. Was the day future Lucy claims to have returned to be really "July 4, X793" or was that just a typo error?

Chris38 · 2013-02-18, 03:13

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Originally Posted by Pinwheel10

EDIT: Question. Was the day future Lucy claims to have returned to be really "July 4, X793" or was that just a typo error?

It was an error that Mashima made in the Japan version.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2013-02-18, 05:19

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Originally Posted by ellessarr

i think the "energy" who jellal feels is related to the little guy who was controlling obra(from raven tail) and the shadow(maybe both are the same), the 2 times jellal feel the energy this little guy and the shadow was here.

I don't think the lil guy was controlling obra I think he was part of obra's magic the shadow is different how I have no idea

II Maestro · 2013-02-22, 04:53

Spoiler for 320:

vansonbee · 2013-02-22, 05:08

320

Spoiler:

ReinhartX · 2013-02-22, 05:25

HAHAHA SO MUCH FOR STRONGEST 5 omg i cant stop laughing at that part....

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2013-02-22, 05:26

Spoiler for 520:

Fenrir_valindri · 2013-02-22, 06:02

Jura was pretty awesome this chapter, but Laxus won't back down from anyone.

Randrak42 · 2013-02-22, 06:33

This just shows how strong Jelly is.

Bombo · 2013-02-22, 06:52

Orga with one blow..good

Kaijo · 2013-02-22, 09:17

"OMG, Fairy Tail is SOOOOO predictable! Laxus is gonna beat Orga, so lame and predictable."

*Jura one shots Orga*

"Um.... well... Fairy Tail is still predictable, even though all my predictions turn out wrong!"

I have to admit, I didn't see that coming. And looks like next week we'll have the Jura vs. Laxus fight, and probably the Gray/Juvia/Lyon/Cheria fight after that, and Erza/Minerva will be the final one. This still leaves Sting around, and I wonder what Mashima will do with him. So far, I don't think anyone can predict what will happen with him.

And what will Arcadios do or say to the princess? What will Natsu's group do? Who will win this tournament? That last question is still in doubt. FT would have to win all their fights, and even though Erza will probably beat Minerva (unless Sting intervenes somehow), the others may not. Laxus could still lose to Jura, but still give him a good fight.

Tempest35 · 2013-02-22, 09:39

So, we have at least 5 more guys as strong or stronger than Gildartz running around. ... The world suddenly seems a lot bigger...

Not even gonna worry about Erza at this point, she's well within her margin of error.

Good going Jura - insta-KO. Pretty easy to see that Jura didn't like him much anyway, but he at least respects Laxus.

Tough call if I want to send Gajeel in to help Laxus - it's not a team-building excercise. While taking down Jura almost assures 5pts, it can bite later if Jura gets the both Laxus and Gajeel and snags 3 pts total for the entire encounter... but then Sting jumps in and Light Dragon Nuke's them both for 6 pts.... ><

classic · 2013-02-22, 09:44

^
And how long you will point on every minor changes in the plot?

Laxus will be the winner. That is the fact why people are saying that FT is predictable. It dosn`t matter how exactly it will happend. The overall result will be Laxus will win or it will be tie which is also considered favorable for FT.

kitten320 · 2013-02-22, 10:32

Orga done in one shot? Really? Saber Tooth is just pathetic. How they manged to be the strongest guild till now is probably the biggest mystery of this arc for me.

At least it was not Laxus. Now let's wait for next chapter where Jura gets dominated by Laxus -sigh-, well Laxus barely had any real fights so as long as it is not a one shot, I don't mind him winning.

Though FT is clearly winning all the fights here. If no, I'll be surprised for the first time after Natsu VS Guildarts fight.

mtgowns · 2013-02-22, 11:28

Well, Laxus surpassing Jura is a tough one. I've always seen him as a notch stronger than Erza, who's Saint material herself. But now that it's established that the top 4 Saints aren't actually human it puts Jura's overwhelming power into perspective. We haven't seen him go HAM yet.

No FT member has actually been defeated yet so it's about time we see some of them drop.

I'm a bit torn as to how Erza vs Minerva will play out. It's pretty clear that Erza is on the ropes and Minerva hasn't even been scratched yet. I'd like to say Gajeel would come around to help, but it'd be so weird seeing the two of them team up; doesn't seem something that Mashima would make happen.

Defeating Minerva with "power of Nakama" alone would be extremely lame. I suppose the other device left is the Fairy Armor. We didn't get to see much of it back in the Edolas arc so we could see the whole meal deal soon.

What I predict:

-Gray/Juvia tie with or edge out Lyon/Cherry (sp?), Sting comes around to pick up easy points. Gajeel confronts Sting.
-Jura edges out Laxus.
-Erza's going to Erza.

In the end it doesn't make sense within the plot for FT to not win but I think it will come down to the last member, most likely Erza.

Jellal · 2013-02-22, 11:38

I predict the following:
Laxus showing the results of his training.
Maybe new ultimate DS technique or Orga ends up giving Laxus a Power up...?
Personally, I don't want Laxus to win. A tie would be fair. Since if he goes over Gildarz level, it would defeat the purpose of G being top FT mage.

I suspect Juvia and gray performing another unison raid and winning...
At this point its clear none of FT will be pinned out, since it would prove their on top of fiore...

With erza...Honestly it's either nakama power up or fairy armor. Erza remains to be the only character that has never lost. Frankly, I could see Jellal exposing himself to make sure she doesn't lose. That would stir up quite a bit!

It's clear minerva is using sting as a trump card, I assume she'll teleport him when she's in a critical spot to only have gajeel intervene too?

Or...This tournament gets interrupted which I assume to be the case.

KaguraSenju · 2013-02-22, 12:04

It was alright. No questions answered though. The top 4 Wizard Saints...Aah, I wonder when they'll be introduced. Though if they're anything like Laxus was during the Fantasia arc or how Jiemma is, I'ma be disappointed. Don't make them like Zancrow either. You know, the asshole types who think they're all that. At least make one of them humble... Gotta admit, Titania's execution is something I wouldn't mind seeing. Of course I would proceed to go emo and kill myself. Not like it's going to happen though, sorry Minerva. Oh, and Jura one shotting Orga was freaking awesome. Stupid Sabertooth.

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ReinhartX Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	HAHAHA SO MUCH FOR STRONGEST 5 omg i cant stop laughing at that part.... __________________

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ImperialFlameGod8190 The Supreme General Join Date: Mar 2012	Spoiler for 520: That was better. Sadly erza is struggling but we knew that was coming. Gray and Juvia's teamwork is better and lyon and Chelia are strong but lyon doesn't wanna attack juvia and is surprisingly lame. Orga getting OHKOed was funny that master is probably furious but laxus looks like he'll make it a fight and it'll be a good chapter next week.

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ImperialFlameGod8190 The Supreme General Join Date: Mar 2012	Sorry to double post but its easier to explain everything. The twist is the energy jellal feels. What if the energy he feels is the energy coming from the Eclipse gate and the only reason he feels it at random times is because only certain times does the energy leak. The reason he thinks its related to the games is because it appears from undernearth the arena.

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Randrak42 Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	This just shows how strong Jelly is.

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Bombo TSF Fans Join Date: Sep 2008	Orga with one blow..good Last edited by Bombo; 2013-02-23 at 10:57. Reason: changing font

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Kaijo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.	"OMG, Fairy Tail is SOOOOO predictable! Laxus is gonna beat Orga, so lame and predictable." Jura one shots Orga "Um.... well... Fairy Tail is still predictable, even though all my predictions turn out wrong!" I have to admit, I didn't see that coming. And looks like next week we'll have the Jura vs. Laxus fight, and probably the Gray/Juvia/Lyon/Cheria fight after that, and Erza/Minerva will be the final one. This still leaves Sting around, and I wonder what Mashima will do with him. So far, I don't think anyone can predict what will happen with him. And what will Arcadios do or say to the princess? What will Natsu's group do? Who will win this tournament? That last question is still in doubt. FT would have to win all their fights, and even though Erza will probably beat Minerva (unless Sting intervenes somehow), the others may not. Laxus could still lose to Jura, but still give him a good fight.

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Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	So, we have at least 5 more guys as strong or stronger than Gildartz running around. ... The world suddenly seems a lot bigger... Not even gonna worry about Erza at this point, she's well within her margin of error. Good going Jura - insta-KO. Pretty easy to see that Jura didn't like him much anyway, but he at least respects Laxus. Tough call if I want to send Gajeel in to help Laxus - it's not a team-building excercise. While taking down Jura almost assures 5pts, it can bite later if Jura gets the both Laxus and Gajeel and snags 3 pts total for the entire encounter... but then Sting jumps in and Light Dragon Nuke's them both for 6 pts.... >< __________________

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classic Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010	^ And how long you will point on every minor changes in the plot? Laxus will be the winner. That is the fact why people are saying that FT is predictable. It dosn`t matter how exactly it will happend. The overall result will be Laxus will win or it will be tie which is also considered favorable for FT.

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kitten320 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 22	Orga done in one shot? Really? Saber Tooth is just pathetic. How they manged to be the strongest guild till now is probably the biggest mystery of this arc for me. At least it was not Laxus. Now let's wait for next chapter where Jura gets dominated by Laxus -sigh-, well Laxus barely had any real fights so as long as it is not a one shot, I don't mind him winning. Though FT is clearly winning all the fights here. If no, I'll be surprised for the first time after Natsu VS Guildarts fight. __________________ My anime list

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mtgowns Member Join Date: Aug 2012	Well, Laxus surpassing Jura is a tough one. I've always seen him as a notch stronger than Erza, who's Saint material herself. But now that it's established that the top 4 Saints aren't actually human it puts Jura's overwhelming power into perspective. We haven't seen him go HAM yet. No FT member has actually been defeated yet so it's about time we see some of them drop. I'm a bit torn as to how Erza vs Minerva will play out. It's pretty clear that Erza is on the ropes and Minerva hasn't even been scratched yet. I'd like to say Gajeel would come around to help, but it'd be so weird seeing the two of them team up; doesn't seem something that Mashima would make happen. Defeating Minerva with "power of Nakama" alone would be extremely lame. I suppose the other device left is the Fairy Armor. We didn't get to see much of it back in the Edolas arc so we could see the whole meal deal soon. What I predict: -Gray/Juvia tie with or edge out Lyon/Cherry (sp?), Sting comes around to pick up easy points. Gajeel confronts Sting. -Jura edges out Laxus. -Erza's going to Erza. In the end it doesn't make sense within the plot for FT to not win but I think it will come down to the last member, most likely Erza.

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Jellal Anime Critic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: California	I predict the following: Laxus showing the results of his training. Maybe new ultimate DS technique or Orga ends up giving Laxus a Power up...? Personally, I don't want Laxus to win. A tie would be fair. Since if he goes over Gildarz level, it would defeat the purpose of G being top FT mage. I suspect Juvia and gray performing another unison raid and winning... At this point its clear none of FT will be pinned out, since it would prove their on top of fiore... With erza...Honestly it's either nakama power up or fairy armor. Erza remains to be the only character that has never lost. Frankly, I could see Jellal exposing himself to make sure she doesn't lose. That would stir up quite a bit! It's clear minerva is using sting as a trump card, I assume she'll teleport him when she's in a critical spot to only have gajeel intervene too? Or...This tournament gets interrupted which I assume to be the case.

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KaguraSenju Quiet. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: With Titania.	It was alright. No questions answered though. The top 4 Wizard Saints...Aah, I wonder when they'll be introduced. Though if they're anything like Laxus was during the Fantasia arc or how Jiemma is, I'ma be disappointed. Don't make them like Zancrow either. You know, the asshole types who think they're all that. At least make one of them humble... Gotta admit, Titania's execution is something I wouldn't mind seeing. Of course I would proceed to go emo and kill myself. Not like it's going to happen though, sorry Minerva. Oh, and Jura one shotting Orga was freaking awesome. Stupid Sabertooth.