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ForbiddenOne · 2010-10-18, 17:48

You're preaching to the choir, man :P.

Anyways, I'm not really clear on the whole "pureblood" concept... I mean, you have Jeremiah, who is fanatically loyal to his commoner Queen/former Knight of Round with his blacker than black assistant Viletta, out on a racist crusade to purge foreign blood from the Britannian military.

I mean yeah, the Nazis teamed up with the Japanese in WW2, so I guess racism doesn't always have to make sense, but...

... I guess it has to do with being born on Britannian soil rather than descent? I guess then Rai would qualify :P.

~~Arbitres~~ · 2010-10-18, 17:57

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... I guess it has to do with being born on Britannian soil rather than descent? I guess then Rai would qualify :P.

Uhhh.... If that is the requirement, then wouldn't all Numbers be considered 'Britannians' too? The colonies are conquered Areas, they belong to Britannia. Therefore are legally Britannian property and soil. I don't think being born on 'Motherland' soil changes any of that either.

Xander · 2010-10-18, 19:12

Race is different from nationality and citizenship. Characters can be white, black or mixed race and still be Britannian. That doesn't seem to be an obstacle.

The main type of discrimination seems to be between Britannians and non-Britannians, not between all of the world's different races as such.

But at no point did the show state that the citizens of conquered territories automatically become Britannians, at least not in the short term. After all, there would be no need for a category like "honorary Britannian" if the process of incorporating foreign nationals from conquered areas was automatic.

In the case of Villetta, we don't know much about her past...but if her family is Britannian, I suppose that's what actually matters.

~~Arbitres~~ · 2010-10-18, 21:33

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Ahh, thanks for clearing that up Xander. You are better at this then me.

Sorry for the trouble?

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The Geass route thing makes me wonder though... what would happen if your mixed blood were found out in any of the Britannian storylines.

Intrigue? They could easily conduct Rai as a member of the royal family and use him as a figurehead, leaking the information of him being a half-blood wouldn't be all that beneficial unless in certain situations.

Or they could just interrogate or kill Rai and any other accomplices that were hiding his bloodline. I don't think that'd be an easily explainable scenario.

ForbiddenOne · 2010-10-22, 10:50

I was thinking of something more along the lines of acceptance or lack thereof.

It seems like it'd be a situation of "double the racism, double the fun". Although I guess not everyone is racist on either side.

--- edit ---

After playing through yet again *free time reaching critical mass since the Call of Duty Black Ops beta got taken down due to Jtaggers sneaking in* I have determined that the "mysterious voice" is in fact C.C.- at least as far as I can tell.

Note that I am NOT referring to the one that belongs to the person who gave you geass: As far as I can tell that is an unidentified male who does not appear to be in the credits (at least, the specific Kanji used to indicate he is speaking are not used in the credits that play after Suzaku's ending, as far as I could see).

So it seems its C.C. talking to you during the Ashford Academy and Blue Moon routes (when you are in your room), in the former she speaks psychically and in the latter she speaks in person.

I'm still not quite sure what to make of Lelouch's Ashford Academy ending though...

Revan sama · 2011-08-09, 08:00

Wow, it's been a while since someone has posted here...
Here is a drawing of Rai x Nunnally vs Brother-in-law Lelouch lol.
I love this pairing!

ThatEdditor · 2013-02-23, 15:07

The game was very succesful in Japan, the only reason there isn`t an english version os because at the time not many ebglish people knew about the anime. Although if enough people show how much it`d be worth to they`ll probably re-publish it in english, it`s happened before, just look at Persona 4 Golden.

Scherzo09 · 2013-02-24, 02:29

...Or maybe because we don't release DS visual novels here? And Code Geass really isn't much of a 'thing' here? There are a lot of anime themed games that never are released over here, especially with big anime franchises.

Lost Cause · 2013-02-24, 14:21

You would think they'd want to make more off the franchise and offer the game to the west. Especially now seeing how well Akito is doing, and delaying part 2 until August!
Once again Bandai and Sunrise have missed the boat.

Xander · 2013-02-24, 15:48

I'd have to agree with Scherzo09 in this case. The simple truth is visual novels and/or dating sims based on anime properties are rarely, if ever, officially localized.

Scherzo09 · 2013-02-24, 15:50

Something like this though is tailored specifically for Japanese audiences. It's not just that the anime community here is niche, there also isn't that great of a delivery system either, and America has always been, at best, peripheral to Anime companies. That's partly why Bandai pulled out to begin with. They don't want to go through the trouble of spending all the ad money and such to potentially create a culture that would like their product, and even then most would consider it a weird Japanese thing.

Aquaman OS · 2013-03-01, 22:59

Not to mention the PS2 is dead and out of production entirely, and the PSP is really not that popular in the west (to the point where they opted not to release a Final Fantasy game because they thought it wouldn't sell)

2010-10-22, 10:50	Link #625
ForbiddenOne Member Join Date: Feb 2007	I was thinking of something more along the lines of acceptance or lack thereof. It seems like it'd be a situation of "double the racism, double the fun". Although I guess not everyone is racist on either side. --- edit --- After playing through yet again free time reaching critical mass since the Call of Duty Black Ops beta got taken down due to Jtaggers sneaking in I have determined that the "mysterious voice" is in fact C.C.- at least as far as I can tell. Note that I am NOT referring to the one that belongs to the person who gave you geass: As far as I can tell that is an unidentified male who does not appear to be in the credits (at least, the specific Kanji used to indicate he is speaking are not used in the credits that play after Suzaku's ending, as far as I could see). So it seems its C.C. talking to you during the Ashford Academy and Blue Moon routes (when you are in your room), in the former she speaks psychically and in the latter she speaks in person. I'm still not quite sure what to make of Lelouch's Ashford Academy ending though... Last edited by ForbiddenOne; 2010-10-22 at 17:02.

2013-02-24, 14:21	Link #629
Lost Cause Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Virginia Age: 36	You would think they'd want to make more off the franchise and offer the game to the west. Especially now seeing how well Akito is doing, and delaying part 2 until August! Once again Bandai and Sunrise have missed the boat. __________________ Ride, Boldly Ride!

2010-10-18, 17:48	Link #621
ForbiddenOne Member Join Date: Feb 2007	You're preaching to the choir, man :P. Anyways, I'm not really clear on the whole "pureblood" concept... I mean, you have Jeremiah, who is fanatically loyal to his commoner Queen/former Knight of Round with his blacker than black assistant Viletta, out on a racist crusade to purge foreign blood from the Britannian military. I mean yeah, the Nazis teamed up with the Japanese in WW2, so I guess racism doesn't always have to make sense, but... ... I guess it has to do with being born on Britannian soil rather than descent? I guess then Rai would qualify :P.

2010-10-18, 19:12	Link #623
Xander Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 30	Race is different from nationality and citizenship. Characters can be white, black or mixed race and still be Britannian. That doesn't seem to be an obstacle. The main type of discrimination seems to be between Britannians and non-Britannians, not between all of the world's different races as such. But at no point did the show state that the citizens of conquered territories automatically become Britannians, at least not in the short term. After all, there would be no need for a category like "honorary Britannian" if the process of incorporating foreign nationals from conquered areas was automatic. In the case of Villetta, we don't know much about her past...but if her family is Britannian, I suppose that's what actually matters.

2011-08-09, 08:00	Link #626
Revan sama Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Age: 23	Wow, it's been a while since someone has posted here... Here is a drawing of Rai x Nunnally vs Brother-in-law Lelouch lol. I love this pairing!

2013-02-23, 15:07	Link #627
ThatEdditor The work in progress..... Join Date: Feb 2013	The game was very succesful in Japan, the only reason there isn`t an english version os because at the time not many ebglish people knew about the anime. Although if enough people show how much it`d be worth to they`ll probably re-publish it in english, it`s happened before, just look at Persona 4 Golden.

2013-02-24, 02:29	Link #628
Scherzo09 Member Join Date: Feb 2013	...Or maybe because we don't release DS visual novels here? And Code Geass really isn't much of a 'thing' here? There are a lot of anime themed games that never are released over here, especially with big anime franchises.

2013-02-24, 15:48	Link #630
Xander Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 30	I'd have to agree with Scherzo09 in this case. The simple truth is visual novels and/or dating sims based on anime properties are rarely, if ever, officially localized.

2013-02-24, 15:50	Link #631
Scherzo09 Member Join Date: Feb 2013	Something like this though is tailored specifically for Japanese audiences. It's not just that the anime community here is niche, there also isn't that great of a delivery system either, and America has always been, at best, peripheral to Anime companies. That's partly why Bandai pulled out to begin with. They don't want to go through the trouble of spending all the ad money and such to potentially create a culture that would like their product, and even then most would consider it a weird Japanese thing.

2013-03-01, 22:59	Link #632
Aquaman OS Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Not to mention the PS2 is dead and out of production entirely, and the PSP is really not that popular in the west (to the point where they opted not to release a Final Fantasy game because they thought it wouldn't sell)