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Old 2013-02-25, 03:23   Link #861
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Well the reason why I said that was because in my experience, fans do not response well to new protagonists that comes out of nowhere. I'm working on the assumption that Raiden can't be the protagonist forever, and he'll need a replacement eventually. So it's better to 'ease' people into the idea of someone else... That's my suggestion anyway.
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Old 2013-02-25, 03:40   Link #862
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That's an understandable action to take with the Metal Gear series at least. Raiden's fan reception was pretty bad after he came out of nowhere in MGS2 after all. At least MGS4 redeemed him and resulted in an awesome badass of a character.

I suppose Naked Snake sort of came out of nowhere in MGS3 too, but since he looked, sounded and acted exactly like Solid Snake in that game, he was probably accepted much easier than Raiden was. (And I doubt many people knew he was actually Big Boss around it's original release.)
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Old 2013-02-25, 03:54   Link #863
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I was thinking of that as well.

Another case would be DMC4's Nero.
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Old 2013-02-25, 08:17   Link #864
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Two things that immediately come to mind when thinking of a Rising 2.

1) A more refine system for non-lethal combat; while I'm not a hardcore MGS fan that obsesses over no-kill and I perfectly understand why in the context of this story Raiden must kill, but no reason why future games has to be the same. Give them a separate meter for non-lethal damage... Oh and don't count robot deaths as kills because... That's stupid -_-


2) Personally, I would like to see them set up a new protagonist to take Raiden's place- might not be immediate, but keeping him on stand-by wouldn't hurt.
Considering the ending of Rising, it screamed sequel with Raiden as a playable character
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Old 2013-02-25, 08:21   Link #865
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Considering the ending of Rising, it screamed sequel with Raiden as a playable character
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Raiden IS Blondy :P
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Old 2013-02-25, 09:49   Link #866
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Oops then I'll just put this

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Old 2013-02-25, 14:00   Link #867
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Played the demo, Man this game is awful shame to be apart of the metal gear series.
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Old 2013-02-25, 15:17   Link #868
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Played the demo, Man this game is awful shame to be apart of the metal gear series.
How so? Voice acting is great, story is great, characters are okay. Raiden is great. Gameplay except not being able to parry during heavy is great.
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Old 2013-02-25, 15:27   Link #869
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Kojima also thinks it's gerat.

A DLC mission involves Raiden in a beat em up game using only his fists
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Old 2013-02-25, 15:28   Link #870
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Oops then I'll just put this

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Metal Gear Rising 2- final boss is to fight the whole of congress

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. Gameplay except not being able to parry during heavy is great.
You can dodge cancel everything.
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Old 2013-02-25, 15:35   Link #871
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Metal Gear Rising 2- final boss is to fight the whole of congress .
No the Queen of England!
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Metal Gear Rising 2- final boss is to fight the whole of congress



You can dodge cancel everything.
Went throught the entire gamr hard not knowing there was a dodge.... -_-
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Old 2013-02-25, 16:50   Link #873
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Went throught the entire gamr hard not knowing there was a dodge.... -_-
....That would make the final boss a lot harder...
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Old 2013-02-25, 17:20   Link #874
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Played the demo, Man this game is awful shame to be apart of the metal gear series.
Nah I think that honor goes to Metal Gear Acid 1 & 2.


Also how do you dodge? I also didn't know you could dodge.
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Old 2013-02-25, 17:25   Link #875
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Also how do you dodge? I also didn't know you could dodge.
You buy the skill "Offensive Defense" (Or was it the other way around?)

Press square + X at the same time, use the analog stick to decide the direction you want to dodge to, if not by default you'll dodge backwards.

Using this is pretty essential to fighting Mastiff since you can avoid their grab move and still be in striking distance. It also eliminates the cooldown vulnerable state you have after using certain weapon's moves.
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Old 2013-02-25, 18:36   Link #878
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Who wants lyrics? After listening to this game's music over and over trying to get it to grow on me, I can't help but sing along most of the time now.

Only boss themes so far, no known lyrics for "Dark Skies", "Return to Ashes" or "A Soul Can't Be Cut" yet unless someone wants to take the time to listen very carefully to them:

Spoiler for Rules of Nature (Metal Gear RAY):

Spoiler for The Only Thing I Know for Real (Jetstream Sam):

Spoiler for I'm My Own Master Now (Bladewolf):

Spoiler for A Stranger I Remain (Mistral):

Spoiler for The Stains of Time (Monsoon):

Spoiler for Red Sun (Sundowner):

Spoiler for Collective Consciousness (Metal Gear EXCELSUS):

Spoiler for It Has to Be This Way (Senator Armstrong):
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Old 2013-02-25, 19:05   Link #879
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Do you know what song plays when

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Such a awesome momment.
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Old 2013-02-25, 20:22   Link #880
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Do you know what song plays when

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Such a awesome momment.
Absolutely no idea I suspect it might be another version of an existing track like maybe 'It has to be this way' but I'm not sure.

You have better luck asking the 'nice folks' at gamefaqs...
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