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Old 2013-02-27, 03:58   Link #6561
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^ Very true. IMO, I do think there is a possibility that he may slip down to the second or third rounds. After the poor and unimpressive performance in BCS National Championship Game, girlfriend scandal, and his most recent his failure to impress scouts at the 2013 NFL Scouting Combine. With these I do see that possibility it may happen.
You know, we might just end being able to pull off getting Star, Manti, and then some if RM plays his cards right.


And oh yeah, I'm surprised no one's brought up the rapidly unfolding Alex Smith sweepstakes.
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Old 2013-02-27, 09:07   Link #6562
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I don't know, Manti would slip into the second round, I'd say there's a good 50%+ chance that the Ravens take him at #32, pending who else is available.

As for Alex Smith, it's not really a sweepstakes, is it? I don't really think there's much of a chance of him going anywhere but the Chiefs, since the only other serious bidder seems to be Arizona, and why would the 49ers give them a chance at a good QB?
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Old 2013-02-27, 12:04   Link #6563
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I don't see Manti slipping up enough to drop to the third round. I see him still being a low first round to second pick. He still has his pro day to salvage his draft stock as well as other interviews with teams. He did pretty well with interviews with the press too.

EDIT- CHIEFS AND NINERS agree to trade with Alex Smith!

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Old 2013-02-27, 14:26   Link #6564
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I don't see Manti slipping up enough to drop to the third round. I see him still being a low first round to second pick. He still has his pro day to salvage his draft stock as well as other interviews with teams. He did pretty well with interviews with the press too.

EDIT- CHIEFS AND NINERS agree to trade with Alex Smith!
Really now? What did they give up in the trade?
II couldn't be the first round pick. Would they really give up the first pick for Alex Smith ?
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Old 2013-02-27, 14:42   Link #6565
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2nd round pick this year, and an undisclosed conditional pick next year.
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Old 2013-02-27, 15:04   Link #6566
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The 49ers have a nice pocket full of draft picks to use this year either in the draft or for trade. I think they might target Revis since they're planning on releasing Rogers. The Jets are in need of an overhaul and I could use the extra picks to fix their offensive line.
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Old 2013-02-27, 16:40   Link #6567
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Smith going to KC is... Joe Montana deja vu, except Smith hasn't won anything.
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Old 2013-02-27, 20:37   Link #6568
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Lol Chief fans are pissed.

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Old 2013-02-27, 22:19   Link #6569
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Hmm, just hear Bill Polian on PTI saying that the whole point of the combine is the measurables and physical test, and he also said that at the moment, Te'o is a high second round pick, but should he improve is physical test in his Pro Day, he can climb up to the first round
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Old 2013-02-28, 07:43   Link #6570
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Lol Chief fans are pissed.
For what? They're not gonna get anyone better than Smith. What? Do they want Vick instead?
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Old 2013-02-28, 11:53   Link #6571
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For what? They're not gonna get anyone better than Smith. What? Do they want Vick instead?
I think Kansas fans were expecting Geno Smith. With that move, there won't be that many QBs going off in the first round aside from G Smith.
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Old 2013-02-28, 14:40   Link #6572
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For what? They're not gonna get anyone better than Smith. What? Do they want Vick instead?
I think they feel that Smith has already hit his ceiling, which is why he was replaced despite having a good season last year. Basically, the Chief fans have gone through this before and believe that Alex Smith will regress without Harbaugh like Cassel did without Charlie Weis. From the posts on the Chiefs forum, most of the posters wanted Geno Smith or they wanted to get Joeckel then hopefully have had Barkley fall to them to 33rd pick. Also, Nick Foles was acceptable because he was only a one year pro and was familiar with Andy Reid.

Eric Fisher could be the first overall pick. That would be huge for a generally unknown, non-BCS school like Central Michigan and could give an advantage to signing better recruits in the future.
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Old 2013-02-28, 19:47   Link #6573
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I don't know, Manti would slip into the second round, I'd say there's a good 50%+ chance that the Ravens take him at #32, pending who else is available.

As for Alex Smith, it's not really a sweepstakes, is it? I don't really think there's much of a chance of him going anywhere but the Chiefs, since the only other serious bidder seems to be Arizona, and why would the 49ers give them a chance at a good QB?
Te'o isn't worth the 32nd pick and I'd pretty pissed if Ozzie took him there. His 40 time shouldn't have surprised anyone as his game has never been built on athleticism.
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Old 2013-03-01, 04:33   Link #6574
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I think they feel that Smith has already hit his ceiling, which is why he was replaced despite having a good season last year. Basically, the Chief fans have gone through this before and believe that Alex Smith will regress without Harbaugh like Cassel did without Charlie Weis. From the posts on the Chiefs forum, most of the posters wanted Geno Smith or they wanted to get Joeckel then hopefully have had Barkley fall to them to 33rd pick. Also, Nick Foles was acceptable because he was only a one year pro and was familiar with Andy Reid.
If that really does happen, than the Chiefs just lost a second round as well as another conditional mid-round pick next year.

What are the chances that they still draft Geno Smith, just in case Alex Smith does regress or his performance in games is very poor ?
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Old 2013-03-01, 09:36   Link #6575
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What are the chances that they still draft Geno Smith, just in case Alex Smith does regress or his performance in games is very poor ?
I'd say incredibly low. Like, 0.7% low. You don't waste your first two round picks, especially that high in each round, on a position that you only get to play one of at a time.
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Old 2013-03-03, 17:54   Link #6576
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Joe Flacco gets his elite money:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...o-new-contract

A six-year contract worth $120 million, approx. $20.1 million per year.
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Old 2013-03-03, 22:23   Link #6577
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Joe Flacco gets his elite money:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...o-new-contract

A six-year contract worth $120 million, approx. $20.1 million per year.
You know the world is crazy when Joe Flacco is the highest paid NFL player.
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Old 2013-03-03, 22:53   Link #6578
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Except it's back-loaded. When was the last time a player actually played out their contract in its entirety without restructuring, barring 1-year and 2-year contracts?
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Old 2013-03-04, 04:34   Link #6579
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With all due respect to Joe Flacco, I don't think it was the right move to give him that amount of money. Not to say he is not worth a big contract, but that amount of money may be a bit too much. His new contract also features $52 million dollars in guaranteed money.
I have a feeling that a restructuring of his contract may in store sometime in the future.
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Old 2013-03-04, 12:22   Link #6580
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Kansas's move to secure Alex Smith is beginning to make more sense with a deadline day for franchise tags looming. The word out of Kansas is WR Dwayne Bowe will get the tag and that OT Brandon Albert will become a free agent. And in a draft where Fisher and Joeckel are expect to go in the first few picks, you'd expect Kansas to go for one of this with a likely need for an OT.

I'm intrigued as to whether Jacksonville would go for Smith or Fisher/Joeckel. Because they need both positions to be strengthened big time.
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