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Old 2013-02-27, 15:49   Link #541
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Things will assuredly get more confusing at the snap-back to 1986, but do keep these thoughts in mind as you go through the parts to follow. And of course keep thinking about 1986 itself.
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Old 2013-02-28, 01:32   Link #542
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This whole treatment of witch-hunting as Otaku phenomenon in the mid/late nineties has actually made me consider something in prime. In a way, the characters of this Kakera might be lucky that the culprit is the first and only (thus far known) copy-cat killer to emerge. I can easily see a worst case scenario where a bunch of lunatic copy cat serial killers are running around offing people in order to become witches/wizards/gods and taunting the police with exquisitely prepared envelopes and challenges.

After all, some serial killers do it to get their message out or prove their greatness, and Beatrice evidently discovered a way that works in Prime. You could easily get a pile of crazy killers all over the place trying to be the next Beatrice. A sort of Stand Alone Complex of the Golden Witch. Most of them probably wouldn't get very far, but just a couple first twilights makes some nasty possibilities.
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Old 2013-02-28, 12:44   Link #543
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This whole treatment of witch-hunting as Otaku phenomenon in the mid/late nineties has actually made me consider something in prime. In a way, the characters of this Kakera might be lucky that the culprit is the first and only (thus far known) copy-cat killer to emerge. I can easily see a worst case scenario where a bunch of lunatic copy cat serial killers are running around offing people in order to become witches/wizards/gods and taunting the police with exquisitely prepared envelopes and challenges.
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Exactly what I'm writing and scripting is something I already know, it's just a matter of where it all needs to go. For example, the first chapter of Part 3 initially had the two scenes reversed, but my editors suggested flipping them, which is good because it does probably work better that way. There were a couple parts of Part 1 that were also out of order, and the last scene of Part 2 was once part of the scene before the Kinzo scene, which caused the part to end where I didn't really like it ending. So it ended up significantly moved and expanded.

Normally the editors have let me slide on structure (mostly they just criticize my grammar flubs, and deride my awful music selections and make much better ones), but that may change with Part 5 as I try to juggle together a growing landslide of shorter, more chaotic sequences in order to reach some kind of conclusion (at least in the sense any Umineko episode truly "concludes" before the bonus chapters, because I'm trying to match that rough style).

Certainly interesting to be on the downhill stretch. But you know what happens when you're driving downhill... you go faster and faster until you careen out of control and die in a twisted wreck that nobody finds appealing.
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Old 2013-02-28, 19:33   Link #544
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Old 2013-02-28, 19:49   Link #545
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I did take some liberties with the notion of the fanbase, but that was (1) to make a point, and (2) to kind of try to emphasize that the way it's transitioned across the ocean is horribly disorienting.

The best way I can explain it is to imagine Jack the Ripper stories got really popular in England, and incredible fantastical tales existed about this serial killer character, and then someone plopped all those stories down in Mexico with a Spanish translation all at once. And it got popular. People kinda understand that it's based on actual people being horrifically killed, but the cultural, temporal, and organizational disconnect creates confusion.
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Old 2013-03-04, 19:08   Link #546
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Redaction of the Golden Witch - Part 4

Our attention returns to the curious Fragment and its distorted tale of 1986. But the tale is now more twisted and broken than ever, and Virgilia's skill may no longer be adequate. How convenient, then, that a new pair of eyes is offered for the reading just as they are needed. But the story this new Reader tells, while clearer, is no more comprehensible. Just what does Walter Absalom see as truth within this chaos? Yet in the eye of the magical storm, Battler has begun to come to a series of private realizations about his own desires.

Mystery and fantasy, past and future, truth and deception, all are now at war. Just who has sided with whom is another matter entirely. Keep your friends close, your enemies closer, and your options open.

The next playlist, in six more (admittedly far, far longer) parts. You may not want to blow through this in a single sitting, as it's as long as Parts 1 and 2 combined.

TIPs from Part 4 (I really should've written some for Part 3 as well), also seen in their respective videos, so these are spoilers in some sense:
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Old 2013-03-04, 22:21   Link #547
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I've read up to the end of part 3 of Redaction now, and I'm still enjoying it very much. I'll have fun reading part 4 later today.

But I'll still post my notes about parts 1-3. I haven't got any firm theories yet; these are just my thoughts so far. It's a bit sketchy, of course, since I've only watched the videos through once, and not all in one go.

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Old 2013-03-04, 22:48   Link #548
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+o in IRC terms means giving channel operator status. So Cass is an operator in #WitchHunter, as is Rook (an operator has a @ in front of their username). ~ means the channel founder. Operator status is often set automatically by a bot of some sort when a person verifies their handle with the server.
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Old 2013-03-05, 00:04   Link #549
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Ah, thanks. Interesting!

Well, since I've finished writing out my thoughts so far, I'll go and look at the discussions about Redaction on this page and the last, before reading part 4.
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Old 2013-03-05, 02:20   Link #550
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So, starting up on part 4. I haven't finished it yet (I think it might be as long as the first 3 combined, so I'll have to take my time with it) but there's something at the start for me I think...

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Old 2013-03-05, 05:14   Link #551
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Cass's described as being blonde in her introduction, if I recall.
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Old 2013-03-05, 08:59   Link #552
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Cass is wearing a blonde wig when she's first met but has short dark hair under it. I didn't specify a color, but she's not blonde. She's ethnically Hispanic.
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Old 2013-03-05, 16:44   Link #553
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And now...Renall and I present: The best Umineko fancharacter of all time.

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Old 2013-03-05, 16:56   Link #554
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Old 2013-03-10, 00:41   Link #555
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Finished part 4.

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Old 2013-03-10, 02:57   Link #557
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Aura, I read it! Of course it was awesome. Waiting for more.
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Thanks a lot! I haven't abandoned it, don't worry, I just can't pump out stuff as fast as Renall (I already write for magazines and stuff fghuhgg too much writing!)
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