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Old 2013-03-01, 16:33   Link #12501
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Oh yeah! Fukurou was going to reveal something before he had to split, huh? That's pretty serious.
Hopefully something that may finally break Zenkichi's insane love for Medaka. I mean, it's suspicious.

Not only is Fukurou a reflection of how twisted Zen's love might even become, he was about to reveal something about Zen and Medaka's past. Something about their arranged meeting.
But maybe I'm just bias like that. . I do think that love is his worse character trait, after all.
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Old 2013-03-01, 16:39   Link #12502
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It could support the theory on why Ajimu was zen's girlfriend during middle school and why she went to the trouble of erasing their memories of her during that time period.
can we please get this straighten out.

Ajimu was NOT Zen's girlfriend in middle school. It was a MISTRANSLATION
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Old 2013-03-01, 16:41   Link #12503
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Ah, yes. The good ol' "kanojo can mean either 'her' or 'girlfriend'" thing. I think. Still, girlfriend, member of the female sex, is there a difference?

...Probably.
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Old 2013-03-01, 16:42   Link #12504
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I didn't realize that was such a sensitive issue...

Can it really mean both?
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Old 2013-03-01, 16:54   Link #12505
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@Sol Falling How exactly is he pushing it? Doesn't Kumagawa love every female anyway? He wanted Emukae to fall for him, he admitted he loved Medaka in their fight at the minus arc, he held some affection for Kikaijima, but as of now I don't really know how it's being "pushed" or that it's particularly significant in light of their overall relationship. It's just something that's noted; I'd hardly say that loving Medaka comes before defeating Medaka for Kumagawa, whereas with Zenkichi it was inverted(he loved her more than just defeating her,).
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Old 2013-03-01, 16:54   Link #12506
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I wonder if Tsurubami must be on verge of losing his sanity. Right now he's the only one who can hold the Earth up without Moon.
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Old 2013-03-01, 17:26   Link #12507
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can we please get this straighten out.

Ajimu was NOT Zen's girlfriend in middle school. It was a MISTRANSLATION

I guess I was wrong or maybe I wasn't, but you really did not have to spaz out to make your point.
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:03   Link #12508
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Why is almost everyone ganging up on Sol Falling anyway?

I'll admit, the manga has been shoving the Zenkichi X Medaka pairing down our throats so hard, I find I have no choice but to choke on it. And in the first place, I do not really ship Kumagawa and Medaka, but what's wrong with Sol Falling doing so?

How serious each of them are about their interest in one another is... debatable, but at least they have expressed some interest, and they do think the world of one another. That's a good start. Considering how off-the-wall insane this manga's been so far, I'd even call Kumagawa X Medaka a (relatively) reasonable development with plenty of foreshadowing.

Certainly, I found the exchange between the two in this chapter much more genuine, respectful and heartfelt than anything Medaka and Zenkichi have managed in the 183 previous chapters. Not that that's particularly difficult, mind you, but still...

I say we let Sol Falling have fun with the pairing. And really, if Medaka gets taken, wouldn't it mean that Zenkichi X "A More Deserving Girl " now has a chance? I was certain that that's what most people here want anyway, so why all the protests against what's essentially a little bit of harmless wishful thinking?

Or is this one of those things where...

If Zenkichi's not getting Medaka after all that effort, then NO ONE WILL. Medaka DESERVES to be FOREVER ALONE.

or something?

If so... OK.
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:23   Link #12509
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Ok, I'm deathly curious, so I've gotta ask.

What made Telamont hate Zenkichi as much as the Al-Qaeda hates the United States?

I mean, it's just so random to see, unlike that other very common hate, but it's pretty clear that every time Zenkichi appears on screen, you probably shout-out in agony or something.
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:26   Link #12510
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Maybe (s)he hates Zen because others hate Medaka?
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:29   Link #12511
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What if the next arc is also a race against the clock? With no Moon, only Kamome can avoid disaster with the abnormality that allows him alter the Earth's rotation and the minus that keeps the gravitational pulse stable.

But for how long? This is the question.
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:29   Link #12512
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Maybe (s)he hates Zen because others hate Medaka?
Ah, yes. The good old "I hate the character because of the fanbase" never gets old in internet forum fashion.
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:30   Link #12513
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Why is almost everyone ganging up on Sol Falling anyway?

I'll admit, the manga has been shoving the Zenkichi X Medaka pairing down our throats so hard, I find I have no choice but to choke on it. And in the first place, I do not really ship Kumagawa and Medaka, but what's wrong with Sol Falling doing so?

How serious each of them are about their interest in one another is... debatable, but at least they have expressed some interest, and they do think the world of one another. That's a good start. Considering how off-the-wall insane this manga's been so far, I'd even call Kumagawa X Medaka a (relatively) reasonable development with plenty of foreshadowing.

Certainly, I found the exchange between the two in this chapter much more genuine, respectful and heartfelt than anything Medaka and Zenkichi have managed in the 183 previous chapters. Not that that's particularly difficult, mind you, but still...

I say we let Sol Falling have fun with the pairing. And really, if Medaka gets taken, wouldn't it mean that Zenkichi X "A More Deserving Girl " now has a chance? I was certain that that's what most people here want anyway, so why all the protests against what's essentially a little bit of harmless wishful thinking?

Or is this one of those things where...

If Zenkichi's not getting Medaka after all that effort, then NO ONE WILL. Medaka DESERVES to be FOREVER ALONE.

or something?

If so... OK.
Why are you acting like Sol is some kind of victim? It's just a discussion, no need to act like you're saving him from something.

There's nothing wrong with supporting a ship, whatever I'm fine with that. It's just this implication that they have to have a romantic relationship because the manga supposedly supports this, like someone is saying "look how symbolic this is!!!!1111".

Does Batman have a romantic relationship with the Joker? My point is that I'm slightly irritated at this lack of nuance people place on relationships, thinking it always has to be romance because the manga "supports it". I feel that in some ways it undermines the kind of respect they do have.
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:35   Link #12514
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because KumagawaxMedaka is a joke anyway
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:36   Link #12515
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A really bad joke.

If only her memories of Ajimu hadn't been erased, I can tell you now their relationship wouldn't be as cordial as it is.
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:41   Link #12516
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That just reminded me of something.

After Medaka "died" recently, her mother clearly stated that Ajimu wasn't inside of her anymore(these days, she's inside anyone, really. Omnipresence and all).
Yet, in "My words will reach", not only is Ajimu clearly inside Zen(well, her "words"), but her voice isn't all echo-y like everyone else's.

Which still dosen't make much sense, what with her being dead and all.
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:43   Link #12517
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Clearly there has to be something else, and I believe Nienami holds the answer to our questions.
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:45   Link #12518
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Even more complicated was Iihiko's strange line, implicating that Ajimu died "for" Zen? I dunno. That line confused me.
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:53   Link #12519
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Ajimu didn't choose Zen for fun. She knew, probably from the time they spent together in Middle School, that he was far more special than anyone else, despite just being a normal person. Ajimu showed how much she cared for Zen during the Jet Black Wedding Feast and when she confronted Iihiko, buying Medaka as much time as it was possible.

Ajimu gave her life only and only for Zen, and Iihiko's line should leave no doubt.
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Old 2013-03-01, 21:05   Link #12520
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"The irreversable became reversable"

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can we please get this straighten out.
Ajimu was NOT Zen's girlfriend in middle school. It was a MISTRANSLATION
Yet neither Zen nor Medaka remembered anything about Ajimu.
While it is most likely really just a translation error you can't deny the possibility as long as this certain loose end is there.

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Ajimu didn't choose Zen for fun. She knew, probably from the time they spent together in Middle School, that he was far more special than anyone else, despite just being a normal person. Ajimu showed how much she cared for Zen during the Jet Black Wedding Feast and when she confronted Iihiko, buying Medaka as much time as it was possible.

Ajimu gave her life only and only for Zen, and Iihiko's line should leave no doubt.
So the 'girlfriend' in Kumagawa's arc could have actually meant girlfriend' instead of just 'her' after all.
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